Celebrity Stargazing

darlin(g) i think you still misunderstand me...i didnt mean in any way that blogging might save lifes...why should it?
it was more a not too serious refer to the celebrity-hype nowadays - which is still kind of the topic here.

but anyway - i try to express myself better and not making misunderstanable statements

reply to post by enlighten2012


ppl always search for heroes, but often arent able to see the heroes who are in front of their eyes...
maybe that comes with age...(seems like we were two very old ppl talking :lol )

i thought this topic was about collecting celebrity statements, songs etc about ufos and stuff. helps drawing conclusion to possible experiences ppl might have made in general. and just for fun though...

[edit on 8-8-2008 by milabb.]

Originally posted by milabb.
reply to post by enlighten2012

 

ppl always search for heroes, but often arent able to see the heroes who are in front of their eyes...
maybe that comes with age...(seems like we were two very old ppl talking :lol

)

i thought this topic was about collecting celebrity statements, songs etc about ufos and stuff. helps drawing conclusion to possible experiences ppl might have made in general. and just for fun though...

[edit on 8-8-2008 by milabb.]

i know! SNIP i'm 32 and making comments like that already

orange-light has opened a great thread re music - ufos already so i guess that leaves us discussing the problem, if any, of celebs influencing us in the unknown direction. the more i read this thread the more i think it is so. not a problem just the fact.

no matter what a celeb (i'm hating that word more and more) talks about, if you are a fan of that person then you will inevitably become intrested. be it clothing, food, music, ufos ect ect. its human nature period.

edit b/c one last thing: 08.08.08 has passed for me here in Oz and most of yours just starting so wishing you all a universe full of luck today!
big hugs to all

[edit on 8-8-2008 by enlighten2012]

[edit on 8-8-2008 by Crakeur]

Originally posted by White Star

it is know he once did. no idea if he still does.

i understand the regular posters here find the 'fan invasion' annoying but what happens here is nothing compared to how it would have been a few years ago. the few persistant fans will sooner or later disappear again... and it's really not THAT much of them, isn it?

My guess is he still does, who wouldn't go read what others say about themselves? I wouldn't be able to resist

I'd hardly call this an invasion either, considering how huge he is in the UK and Europe.

Surely the majority of his 'fans' are now women in their 30's and 40's? Not quite the besotted teenagers hanging onto his every word like some are making them out to be. I feel their contribution to be valuable not troublesome.

The more people we have to share their experiences or to discover what others have experienced the merrier?

just a few thoughts that came to my mind the last days

celebs:
everybody wants to get attention
some people doing kind of "striptease" in all this soap shows just to get that attention
some people are making up hoaxes of any kind to get the attention
to become a celeb for 5 minutes in their life

so it might be down to our genes that everybody got the wish to be a celeb - maybe just for 5 minutes or a second

influence of celebs /especially of mr williams on his fans
having a new b/f g/f, partner makes you listen to different music, getting interested in different subjects - you develope getting these new perspectives on life
so i can.t see any harm that some fans are strolling around ATS, due to the influence of their fav celeb to get in contact with stuff they never heard of before
they will develop as well

to talk about another celeb and stargazing - thanks to enlighten2012
jimi hendrix belived really in ufos

members.tripod.com...

Jimi expressed a great interest in matters of an extraterrestrial nature, had admitted seeing UFOs, and once told a reporter from The New York Times that he was really from Mars. And he wasnit kidding either.

"There are other people in the solar system, you know, and they have the same feelings too, not necessarily bad feelings, but see, it upsets their way of living for instance - and they are a whole lot heavier than we are."

"And it's no war games, because they all keep the same place. But like the solar system is going through a change soon and it's going to affect the Earth in about 30 years."

On several occasions during his career, UFOs ijust happenedi to show up while Jimi was giving a concert. During the last days of his life, he performed on the rim of an extinct volcano in Maui.Jimi played three 45-minute sets, says Henderson in his best-seller. After each set, he retired to a special sacred Hopi Indian tent. Later, witnesses in Maui testified that they heard musical tones emanating from rocks and stones. UFOs were also sighted over the volcano by people who called in to a local radio show. A cameraman on the set said that he fell from his perch after seeing a UFO through his lens.

reply to post by -moonlight-


Oh, please, enough already! Have you got any idea how stupid you are making his fanbase look? I can assure you that there are many, MANY more people cringing with embarassment at the way this forum and its good members have been hijacked AGAIN by people who have developed a sudden and passionate interest in the paranormal (and I apologise if this is not the accepted term for the topics discussed here, I don't pretend to know anything about it) in the same way that they developed a sudden and passionate interest in soccer last year...

As far as I am aware, Robbie has not 'quarrelled with his fans' but based on some of what has been posted on here by people masquerading (and badly-come ON, people, at least TRY to make up original, non Robbie related user names! ) as genuinely interested individuals, who can blame him for seeking sanctuary! Just leave him, and the good people of ATS, alone to get on with their thing.

All of that being said though Rob - Valley kind of has a point - if you could just put down a blog on your official site, where your fans are supposed to be, then you might, just might, be left in peace on here....

reply to post by chrisonabike

surely we don't discuss now and here for saving people's lifes..... But in the end everybody (and not only celebrities!) should try to do their best to help other people... (means saving lifes..)

Excuse me, but my question is not out absolutely place.I simply wonder me if a celebrity can have somehow fear of the judgment of the fans, a lot of celebrities have the tendency not to compromise too much for the public judgment.Considering that Chrisonabike is a famous character I wonder only me if it appreciates and he wants the judgment from the fans...Or he wants to also exclude them from this, for fear of a judgment, for fear not to be understood or more simply for the simple fact what he doesn't want that they interact with him now.It is a simple curiosity,I try to understand what thinks a celebrity about the moment that decides to take a stand as this.Only curiosity ...

let me yet again remind everyone that the topic here is whether or not celebrity ufo sightings help or hurt ufology.

that is celebrity ufo sightings, not Robbie Williams' sighting and it also doesn't include Robbie's performance in 98 at some concert or what he was wearing when he was photographed with his mates at some soccer match or anything directly related to Robbie.

This thread, again, is not about Robbie Williams (no offense). He has found a place where, for the most part, he can talk to other, like minded individuals, about something he finds interesting. If you continue to bring up aspects of his "celebrity" that are totally unrelated to the topics we discuss here, odds are, he'll stop posting.

I am very sad to see that we can't let a person express himself , Just because the same person is a "Star" Behing the Star, there is a man who wants to exchange with the other persons who have the same questioning as him ! Now if he doesn't read his e-mails I understand him , If I had to read all the e-mails which I receive on my Myspace I shall not finish it ! Especially the e-mails of all the "badgers" that there is on the net.
That he lives his passion as he wants
Take care guy , And live your trick as you want it

reply to post by chrisonabike


do you really think the song is about an ufo encounter???
just thought about it... ermmm.. don't know what to think but its a very intersting idea. ;-)
but i think its a bad idea to cover it.. sorry! i'm german and i can't hear the song anymore

de.youtube.com...

This is a nice little vid about celebs, who saw ufos and talked about it.

Sorry, I tried to embed the link, but there is a black frame and nothing else...so feel free do click on the link.




[edit on 8-8-2008 by darlin]

reply to post by orange-light


thanks oragne-light for posting re hendrix. i'm not I.T savy at all!

Jimi was a master in music so yet again like Lennon, i'm not suprised he was intrested (or thought he was from mars) in the unknown. I cant recall it ever being mentioned though or maybe i just wasent listening.
I think that Jimi having such a huge celeb following back in the day, would have been a huge influence on his fans. His music def would take you to places unexplained. (with or witout drugs!)

in the 60's-70's,aside from Area 51 becomming huge ect, i think people were more open to influences such as celebs because their minds where open and some-what pure. today we have a million and one things which crowd own mind so its harder to keep up or keep intrest should i say.

crakeur, sorry mate for having to SNIP me. I'll keep my p's and q's at bay.

Grins sarcasticly:

I'm just 'stargazing'..

Hope you liked the Nina Hagen songs!

reply to post by enlighten2012


maybe if you got a creative mind you are much more open to stuff which is beyond the facts they teach us at school
and usually most celebs being actors, painters, musicians - got creative minds for sure

and jimi was very creative - that's for sure! - so it isn.t really astonishing that he was very open minded!

thanks darlin for that video
i was surprised that will smith claims having seen an UFO

Originally posted by orange-light
reply to post by enlighten2012

 

maybe if you got a creative mind you are much more open to stuff which is beyond the facts they teach us at school
and usually most celebs being actors, painters, musicians - got creative minds for sure

and jimi was very creative - that's for sure! - so it isn.t really astonishing that he was very open minded!

thanks darlin for that video
i was surprised that will smith claims having seen an UFO

i meant that people back in the hendrix/lennon days where more open minded (not the musicians).

i dont know if the comparison btw being creative and open minded goes hand in hand so much. i dont think i'm creative though are very open minded. we have to remember to its not just 'celebs' who see ufos. many uncle bobs on their farms have also seen ufos so i dont think their is a connection to being creative-open minded.

i was more going on the musical theory that these artists have drawn inspiration from the unkown, willingly or not, and created some amazing, memorable music. you know music that takes your breath away and listen to over and over. mesmerising is the word.

reply to post by chrisonabike


Montauk and Mind Control

Life of chrisonabike - mostly organized if he truly is "Robbie Williams" by his management including staged photography and staff telling people where band and everyone is staying and when plane is due to arrive. Something that the man did not figure out 5 years ago, and everybody knows that anyway, well most people to be honest from Europe I think.

Of course everything is only paparazzi and just stupids, and an unimpressive chrisonabike who apparently has lost the poise in a good chat convo within a forum, especially when keeping in mind 2003 the skills of writing being much better if not somewhat really good and not really that strange as chrisonabike presents himself here. One could not say it is the same persona.

So again my doubts, because a lot of stories were true in press just not the ones with abducting aliens (ETs) that was about abducting foreigners hence terrorists trying to target the singer.

But for him it was likely only PR for the tour Close Encounters which in fact had nothing to do with the tour. chrisonabike if he is Robbie Williams is a mind control victim and also of Montauk related crimes. Apart from that he allegedly felt tormented by voices in the ear, even with ear plugs they did not really go away. He fears big rooms and suites because of not being able to overlook everything.

But as we know chrisonabike believes that everything is hoax, maybe too much drugs and liquor after all and earth is only a disk and maybe not the real Rob after all.

He should know who I am. And don't we love conspiracy and what about the BBC thingie unable to differentiate between psychics and exobiology. Real Rob can do better, so what kind of hoaxer is chrisonabike ?!

Well Montauk could not do without us.

Cheerio

Germania

reply to post by enlighten2012


sorry i misundetstood you

it is my opion that people who are creative some how have a greater acceptance of unusual stuff, stuff beyond standard routine beyond standard normality!

and yeah people in the 50s and 60s have been more open minded than today!
theory (just mine! ) they have been better educated, more aware of their own thoughts and opinions and there hasn.t been such a great impact with tv as it is today

i am a very creative person in many fields and i know that my brain is constantly absorbing a tremendous amount of impressions starting to combine them immediantly

so yeah guys like hendrix and lennon must have had much more impressions than i can imagie, and they must have had connections to sanctums most people of today cann.t and maybe don.t want ever connect to

but being a creative open mind you are used to get impressions beyond the usual stuff and therefore much more willingly accepting that there is more than school teaches, and don.t get affraid to easily by such impressions like seeing an ufo

do you understand what i mean? feel a bit confused by myself