Celebrity Stargazing

Originally posted by anonymous secret
sorry if I enter, I always read all your posts and I have decided to write

I remain anonymous
what I want to say is that there are too many fans entered the forum just because they want to have a contact with Robert is not right...
is not right that encroach on his space ...
this is his private life .... and we should respect it
I also know that after this there will be a great debate to understand who wrote this post .... I'm not interested ....
I know only that I see people "hungry" that can not see the point now that he responds ....
I am Italian ... are a fan ... and I really admire so much ... but I understand even when it is right to let it stay, if she wanted to have a contact with all of us would have done ...
let live his things

sorry for disturbing ...

My point exactly....I think that since Mr Williams has posted here this site has gained so many new members but sadley not for the reason's it should be for.....Don't get me wrong I feel that there maybe some genuine fan's out there who are here also to learn about this site and the wonderful solutions it can offer....and I appologise if I have upset you....but I am one who likes to speak my mind...I admire Mr Williams for coming clean and showing us a little of the real "he" and I am more then glad that he feels it has made a difference to him on a personal level....
Whether he realised what he was letting himself in for when he originaly decided to come clean who knows,but it is sad to think that this site is being visited by fans who are only after a little bit of him and not really interested in what the site really has to offer....
*Remember as a human we are all entitled to an opinion before you shoot the messenger *

Originally posted by White Star
personally i prefer nina to nena... nena never had a real interest in ufos she just goes with the flow. if i's hip to talk or sing about it, she will to sell her albums. nothing more. nina is a real believer and always had been.
nina seems to be a lovely person although (or because???

) she is kinda weird sometimes and not totally credible.
but hey it's about believeing and not proving right? and what someone believes can't be categorised into credible or not credible. as long as a believe is just a believe it's not a proof and can't be measured by credibility.

Just the fact that Nena never publically outet any interest on such topics must not necessarily mean that she's not on it privately.
All what we "know" about her (I presume you could be included) comes from her public appearances and from always to be questioned 3rd sources as media.
Her public appearances moreover might not show her real private character or interests anyway.
Therefore we don't know nothing at all about Nena's real interest on ufo's, aliens, ghosts or psychic stuff.

Since Nena's song '99 red balloons' was (as said before) originally never really about ufo stuff, but just about the confusion and trouble which 99 balloons on the sky can cause, at least her music can't really let guess any interest in these topics.

Originally posted by helico0_3
WHY ? you are afraid about what you can read !!! or there are too much mail to answer ? to play a normal member even if you are celeb , it's also to read and try to answer to a good or a bad questions , it's to you to sort out of the mails , you are enough intelligent to see what it is interesting or not , why to do the half thing !!! i think that you have less risk behind your computer than in the street about your protection .
you don't want to hide you on this site , therefore it's also to accept to play the game.( it's my opinion )
I don't write you a personnal mail on your box account on this site but i think that if i had a question to ask you not to be out of the topic theme , i would like to receive an answer , it's also a respect between 2 members , no need to write a book or an article ,the answer can sometimes be very short !

What's NOT normal in not checking your u2u's??
I can easily imagine the huge amount of u2u's someone gets - just because he's NOT treated normal by some, but as a hunted celeb.
No-one can talk after his "outing" of a hiding chrisonabike, who wouldn't accept to play the game.
Introducing himself was more than most others here did.
As far as I know he answered almost all upcoming questions on him open, patient and polite, even if they were not really on topic anymore.
So why not living the free spirit of a forum and the tolerance of a community?
Each member should be accepted to decide on the own how to deal the u2u issue individually.
I see a public explanation or excuse to these matters like chrisonabike did just as an act of politeness.

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I do not want you misunderstand my speech useless ....

if he does not respond to messages private is good .... perhaps even if he has put at stake
as a forum we talk here and we expose their thoughts
I want to tell the fans like me ... if the TT fans have waited 10 years know well wait for you too

here is robert ... speaks and discusses topics that he wants to know and expand

I am not speaking as a fan now but as a civil person that exposes its views of a person who at present has no desire to be a star but a simple person like all of us

I do not want discussions ... I just want to leave the stand without say "do this" or "do that" ... we can express our points of view but outside of here ...


is the age of 16 years that does not stop ... hours left to live the life of Robert Peter Williams Maximilliam


I closed with this, do not worry I do not want to participate in any discussion or give other nuisance ... I leave you to your good day discussions ...

i agree a party with you comicpixie ... hard to be a celebrity and can answer at all question that people would like to ask him but without to be celeb ,much people received undesirable mail on their box , you click out or you open to read and perhaps answer ,you have the choice .
how to do the difference between the right interesting question and question out of subject without open nothing ...hard no !!! without to try a little !
if someone have a question to ask to this member , you must do it directly on the topic no other choice , but sometimes the question can be very personnel even in staying on the subject ( to avoid to open another debate with others members )... much people are members of some others site , internet are big , but sometimes you like to share with all and sometimes you want to share with few members for some reasons , therefore some post stay on the topic and others can be debated in private mail for an opinion ,an idea , an subject different or just for compatibility ...
I would like just to have the right reason of this action ,for me protection it's not answer , without to create a war of cause . we are here to debate and speak about celebrity and media on UFO theme but before to speak ABOUT magazine, tv ,internet ,radio and their influence etc...
to see how is a celebrity on a site , it's already a answer to this question .
this celebrity put barrier ,restriction and forbidden , it's just a reality ... when i read his post on this topic , he told himself ...
even if he feel free on this site , he is not really free under his right name without to pay the consequence of his own celebrity ...isn't it ?
it stay a solution to become anonymous but would he like really ? it will be less funny to be a simple member ....the contradiction you know !!!

Originally posted by anonymous secret


I am not speaking as a fan now but as a civil person that exposes its views of a person who at present has no desire to be a star but a simple person like all of us


I agree.....it is my modest thought too.......

PS:Are there in ATS's forum topic about UFO's sight in dreams?????

thanx!!!!

reply to post by enlighten2012


life is too short to be annoyed honey...

love that mohammed ali quote too - sounds somehow poetic...maybe i am cheesy now...

I'm a new member here, because all I've read in this forum is really very interesting. It is amazing, sometimes it makes me wondering (esp. the discussion on 'chrisonabike'), but with each article, I feel I must write my own opinion here. So please respect my first steps here - even though my english, but I'll do my very best!


Back to the main topic:
All your experience and thoughts are very impressive. My thoughts are the following:
WHY EXTRATERRISTS?
We assume that we are the only terrestrial creatures? But is it really like this? Only a couple of people have seen them, the lightful creatures (for me that means pure energy), attend us. And the few one, thos who are able or better have the pre-condition to see them, are regarded unseriously.
Are we eventually the Extraterrists? and is it eventually on the other side in the same way? I'm really sure they are lightful creatures like we are! Lightful creatures disclose their identity only to whom, which is in true faith to them, has confidence in them and no fear.
I trust in God and his angels - even if I never seen them, I feel their energy in a powerful and wonderful way.
Extraterrists! Only the word is a cheek!
They are lightful creatures, pure energy, they got their right to exist long before us.
Lightful creatures, so sensitive not to affright someone, but looking to contanct everyone who believes in them and can assist to conquer small-minded thinking.
Humans, open to get to know who they are. And not to take machines or something else for experimentation.
Humans, which gives all the respect to every creature and give a chance for everyone.
Why are we so full of ourselves to believe, we are the only human one in univers? ? The earth is a planet which is a part of the univers. Nothing more, nothing less.
for me it is no question, we are not alone, it exist not only human being like we know. It'll be a fatal mistake, if we are the only existance!! Our Evolution is not already closed, we are not perfected!
As long as we destruct our ambience, our environment, it must exist the others, who are able to heal and sure, that means not us!
Affected by stupidity we believe, we are the Greatest. I am sure, thanks God, we will be disabuse! To go a better way!

Oops,
is all this about chrisonabike and what he does, doesn`t, thinks, feels....?
so many posts...

I thought it`s a thread about celebrities and their comments on ufos and all stuff connected.......well.
I really appreciate chrisonabike`s posts concerning his sightings and even about his feelings and explanations.
But I do have some problems with all these posts speculating about him - he is here to answer everything he wants to, he is an adult (hm...read somewhere here he said something about when he will be grown up...liked the pun in that post) and I think he is able to speak for himself.

So why not get back to the point of debating instead of assuming or speculating?

Sorry no offence to anyone who might feel addressed now

I feel the press could find a fault in anyone, if they looked hard enough.

They go for what sells papers, half the time they make things up, which is why I stopped buying any papers years ago.

Be it a celebrity or an average person, when it comes to the subject of UFO'S the press will always make it look like the person is delusional, or wanting attention.

Psychics ect are only now beginning to be accepted but certain sectors of the public, 20 years ago this seemed like something that would never happen. Anyone that could see spirits ect were out on their own. Now there are place where you can talk to like minded people about your experiences.

Its my opinion, that you take your own experiences and learn from them. Those in positions of power, who know such aliens exist , won't let out the truth until they are ready. Until that time comes places like this help people know they are not alone, that other people have also had the same experiences.

Does it help if celebrities talk out, yes in places like this. Here Chris can speak to people without being jumped on. Read about other peoples experiences or opinions on what happened to him.

As for the press he will be treated the same as any other person who dares to speak out.

reply to post by darlin


dead on darlin. the thread is about celebrity ufo watchers and whether they help or hurt the community.

Originally posted by chrisonabike
reply to post by Wallachian

 

Yeah i did...but to be honest i'm more interested in the ''Ask a satanist'' thread
go and have a look ..its brilliant..

I saw this topic... I posted a hystory there... About Paulo COelho, the writer.. I think people of this forum would apreciate Paulo's books... it is full of magic...(at least is what people say)

If you google "celebrity ufo sightings" and similar search terms there are quite alot of stories to be read. David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon and Muhammad Ali all claimed to have witnessed things and did not shy away from publicly stating so. According to Curtis Knight for example, a landed UFO saved his life, along with Hendrix's.....you can read about it halfway down on this page :

some celebrity ufo stories

it's always a good thing for a voice that has a wide audience to reveal what they've seen if you ask me. Sure there'll be alot of people visiting ATS for the wrong reasons but it'll peter out and it's great exposure for the site and therefore for the whole ufo/alien topic .

reply to post by helico0_3


most of the ppl here know who he is...and probably he got a lot of u2u..therefore he dont read because he might got no chance to read the posts while reading his u2u...maybe he will get a lot af weird messages...who knows?...smile...i can't talk for chris its only a guess...he said it clear that he dont read...and all the members should accept it...

@cosmicpixie...thanks for the interesting link you've post here...

reply to post by cosmicpixie


I will try not to ofend the celebrities... It is not my intention...


But.. sometimes I don't believe in what they say.

Mohamed ali received a lot of genteel punchs in his head!
Hendrix abused of drugs, so did John lennon. John even said that he use to play the guitars, but sometimes he played the fool on beatles. Most people who say that saw UFO's abused on drugs so they might have some problem in their head and turns it difficult to me to believe... (I'm not saying that they are lying, I'm just saying that some psychology problem may cause some efects in their mind!!!

Just Hope People understand What I'm saying!

Originally posted by milabb.
reply to post by enlighten2012

 

life is too short to be annoyed honey...

love that mohammed ali quote too - sounds somehow poetic...maybe i am cheesy now...

yeah though sometimes its healthy just to say as you feel and thats the mood i was in yesterday and then i come here and try and go through all these posts................................just wish it would stick to topic alittle thats all.

yeah i agree, Ali's quote is great! we are billions of people on this planet. it shouldent suprise that so many ppl have seen ufos. makes me want to do alittle star gazing myself! (is theory correct?????? do i want to look up now b/c celebs prompted me to do so hhhhmmmm )

Originally posted by orange-light
since this thread is about celebrtiy stargazing and not about discussing songs – i started a new thread on "songs about ufos and more" www.belowtopsecret.com...
where i also posted the entire lists of song since beginning of page 24 of this thread - including youtube links

so please follow me discussing the songs at BTS and lets get more on topic on this thread

cheers orange-light. see you there alittle later


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Originally posted by Brazilonabike
reply to post by cosmicpixie

 

I will try not to ofend the celebrities... It is not my intention...


But.. sometimes I don't believe in what they say.

Mohamed ali received a lot of genteel punchs in his head!
Hendrix abused of drugs, so did John lennon. John even said that he use to play the guitars, but sometimes he played the fool on beatles. Most people who say that saw UFO's abused on drugs so they might have some problem in their head and turns it difficult to me to believe... (I'm not saying that they are lying, I'm just saying that some psychology problem may cause some efects in their mind!!!

Just Hope People understand What I'm saying!

dont we all love a bit of conspiracy
most ppl who view ufos' on drugs....should maybe go alittle light on the 'most'. it dosent really matter though if you beleive or not.....being sceptical is good, then when things comes to light you are evan more amazed!

Originally posted by Brazilonabike
reply to post by cosmicpixie

 

I will try not to ofend the celebrities... It is not my intention...


But.. sometimes I don't believe in what they say.

Mohamed ali received a lot of genteel punchs in his head!
Hendrix abused of drugs, so did John lennon. John even said that he use to play the guitars, but sometimes he played the fool on beatles. Most people who say that saw UFO's abused on drugs so they might have some problem in their head and turns it difficult to me to believe... (I'm not saying that they are lying, I'm just saying that some psychology problem may cause some efects in their mind!!!

Just Hope People understand What I'm saying!

yes i understand what you say , more easy to see strange thing when you have drunk more or smoke illicite drug or take strong medecine ...to keep the cold head and have the clear idea at this moment is not easy thing ...
you can believe anything and to be sure to have see an extraordinary event . but strange event can arrive and exist , it must to be there in good place at a good moment ...
now often , you are more credibility when you are a celebrity that when you are a normal person to be heard by all . why ? question of power , money , celebrity perhaps the 3 together

reply to post by Brazilonabike


why should they ALL see ufos then...? would lead to speculation, that drug abuse causes fictional ufo-sightings? mmmm, dont think so.

but of course youre right in not believing everything and reflecting things and thinking them over. alertness is inspiration.

reply to post by anonymous secret


that's incredible...
many times this topic was OT...and you are here again telling the same things...your is a BIG OT...
I think he is able to defend himself alone and he is facing this situation very well....
I don't understand who you are (and sincerely I don't care!)...but I'd like to know who has elected you his defender...maybe do you think he is unable to defend himself?
maybe do you want a big hand from him?
ats is really full of robbie's fan...they were very intrusive before,but now seems that they are more quiet (except rare cases)...so..what is your problem?
I think he knows that is more difficult for a fan to resist to the temptation,anyway he doesn't answer to them..well, I repeat what is your problem?

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