I Want OUT!!!!!!

reply to post by XcLuciFer


In a way this is a good thing that you are experiencing, you are seeing the world through your real eyes, not a filtered vision of the world.

You feel it around you the control, the monotony, the repetitive everyday life that goes round and round in the same circle. You get up work, go to sleep and do the same thing the next day with maybe a holiday thrown in the shake the illusion of a random world.

It is not a random world everything is under a system of control and we are all part of it, you see it in the malls, you see it on TV, you see it everywhere all around you. Its the very system that controls you, what you must do is go above it and learn how to manage it.

It can be done, I have done it myself and when you realize that you arent part of the system anymore that is when your truly free. You can walk around and know that your not part of it, know you are separate from it and learn to live and feel differently than you do now.

It takes patience and learning but eventually you will totally live your own life and separate yourself from the system. You can live a normal life but you can walk around saying that you know what is different, you arent fooled into thinking that your free when you know all too well that your not.

You are searching for freedom and when you see the very system that holds you back yo will learn to live around it.

Its hidden in everything even the people around you and than you will realize the world is not quite right and that something is very odd about it.

I would like to know what people see in these links it will amaze you and its been there all the time you just didnt know it

Study it hard and look straight ahead, you will feel something odd and will know the world is not so random....

www.youtube.com...

When anyone sees it just let me know what makes you feel odd



[edit on 19-7-2008 by Drakiir]

Originally posted by Shawn B.

Originally posted by prevenge

We are all selfish egos

meh, that's bs.


Sounds like a excuse to be that way.


[edit on 18-7-2008 by Shawn B.]

you.. yes YOU.. survive soley because you meet your animalistic needs.
you put food into YOUR body.. so that YOU can survive.
you put water into YOUR body so that YOU can survive.
you shelter yourself so that YOU can survive.
you have sex so that YOU can feel pleasure.

you put food in OTHERS mouths because it makes YOU feel good because it's a good thing to do to help... same with water.. shelter.. and sometimes sex..

helping others makes YOU feel good.
you're a living breathing embodiment of "The Will to Recieve"

nothing altruistic about it.
granted.. a behavioral evolution TOWARDS absolute altruism would be a great path to follow... one towards the embodiment of "The Will to BESTOW"..

pure giving... no taking.

on the journey towards 100% giving.... we'd experience different degrees of both giving and taking.
different ratios... percentages of each.

but when you look at what a human is..
it is an ego.. and it is selfish.

I don't think there is anything "bad" about that.
it's how we are designed.

it's my opinion that we are to change ourselves.. physically, mentally, and spiritually.. towards a more altruistic point.. where the very psychology of our society.. and our personal actions.. change completely.. so that we can all be completely giving towards one another.. where all needs are met.
and the ego's persuits become less and less mandatory .. less and less time consuming.


so .. i'm not using it as an excuse..

i'm using it as fact.
and knowing the facts.. lets you see the truth.. which can better aid in a viewpoint towards the goal.

-

Two wolves live within the heart of man, and one wolf is a blood-thirsty, war inducing, negative creature, and the other wolf is a peace-loving, inspirational, loving, and positive creature. A young boy asks the Indian Chief, "Which one will win?" The Indian Chief responds to the inquisitive boy with, "The wolf that wins, is the one that you feed."

I want out too. This world is whack as hell. How I'm I suppposed to survive in the Devil's world!

reply to post by Nola213

Thank you for clarifying that. As if I'm not already freaked. Who dropped the "Stupid Bomb"? I'm still waiting on a response on my issues (ie: my issues as a result of having all the right hard, tangible answers to everyone else's issues. All I did was the right thing, which I KNOW is the right thing. Collect evidence from "the inside" for 3 years until they turn their sights on me (for which I was prepared), and then the day of collecting evidence stopped, I stood there in front of everyone letting them accuse me of crimes and saying they had their proof (which of course couldn't be provided-didn't exist!) They thought they were being so big and bad while they ran their mouths - lies. Then when I got out the cell and hit speed dial and called the individual they used as their "complainant" and of course he knew the call would come. We cheerily confirmed to everyone standing there and my accusers that this was a premeditated conspiracy to get rid of the guy trying to address very real and very serious widespread, viral and common knowledge issues. My accuser RAN away calling several places on his cell at minimum statewide to my knowledge to figure out how they were gonna get out of this one. They couldn't (I made their witness hostile (actually, I didn't have to. They already had, I took care of the issues they caused themselves to begin with). However, a much later issue came up to where I was "ordered" to do something I knew was wrong and anyone with any common sense would know was wrong, so I refused. The mistake this person made was that he didn't know me and thought I was in a much lower position than I was, thus therefore more stupid than him. So when I in no uncertain terms told him to go F... himself and explained the proper way to communicate with etiquette and respect, and oh, by the way, try going through proper channels. You have absolutely no business even talking to me. Go through my supervisors. Well, he didn't like that, now did he? He markou didn't did something yed me. Took a year, but he erred again. Destroy a man's home, say you did something you didn't. Guess who the man calls? Me. Come see me, cowards! But I'll save you SOME further intellectual embarrassment---SSHHH!! STOP CRYIN! LISTEN!---I am much smarter than you are. You have absolutely CRAP on me and now you should have learned that you can't FABRICATE anything either. Your lies and deceit are exponentially duplicated and spread in different forms all over the globe like the biggest damn jigsaw puzzle you ever saw! Beat at their own game by their own lies. Poetic Justice. Sure, you have seriously wounded me. Made me question my morals and even my sanity. But listen very closely-your wound is bleeding out MUCH FASTER than mine-guess what else? YOU CAN'T DO A DAMN THING ABOUT IT! ALSO, I have such an infallible "HONEST" mechanism in place that borders on AI, even sentient, maybe as far as omniscient, but in your case OMNIPOTENT and your ABSOLUTE end. Your Pandora's Box is open! You should have never let me catch you spying on MY MOTHER! Now, you've made MY WIFE CRY and you think you're tough? YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE!!! I suggest you get one, and I also suggest you don't try to dig your way out, you can't. YOU ARE UTTERLY DISCREDITED AND SHUNNED. I'll tell you why-GREED, at any expense, even your own, people you USED to be able to count on to listen to you, let you cry on their shoulders at the end of a long, hard day. I know none of you are inherently evil, only confused because YOUR SAFE, SECURE World is crashing in around you. I actually feel sorry for you. THEY LIED! ACCEPT IT. Individually you have a chance, but claim an acronym and you don't! Try this sometime-"IF-THEN". It's so easy, unless you're a COMPLETE MORON. I wonder. Difficult as it is for you, TRY to have a nice day. From the heart. We do not belong to you, you are part of us!

I beleive that with every good deed, emotion shared, empathy gestured and good will spread there comes a time when we all, yes us, the individuals, start to make a diffirence. Dont give up, fight back, dissassociate from those that follow the path that controls them and learn to be an individual. Find out who you realy are, warts-n-all and be proud of your values, ethics and your individuality.

Some things to do : Respect and protect your anonimity, preserve those you care for and who care for you. Most of all never give up teaching, spreading the word and realising that the game is lost if you believe what they want you to believe....that is, that you dont matter!... because "YOU DO"!

You only need to fight back once. whether you win or not, others will see that you are no push-over !

It kills me when people say things like "how can you complain when you've got it so good?" "People exist every day without food, water, shelter, and you're complaining about the state of the world?" "People struggle so hard and you're upset?" YES!!! YES!! That's the POINT. It isn't about ME!

How am I supposed to be happy and oblivious when people are starving right now. A whole continent full of grocery stores, warehouses full of food, more restaurants than you can count and yet there are millions and millions of people: men, women, and children starving at this very moment because they have fewer pieces of paper than I do. Or perhaps their pieces of paper are "worth less" than mine. Yet, they're just pieces of paper.

How am I supposed to be happy and blissful when I'm surrounded by people discussing slaughter and oppression places thousands of miles from where they sit as if they have any idea what they're talking about. As if the killing of innocents in their own country, in their own homes, on their own planet, by their own people is somehow ok if the circumstances are "right". The people on this planet are too ignorant to realize that they're killing their own kind! And the ones that DO realize it don't care! Just because someone looks different than you, and lives somewhere other than you doesn't make them in any way different from you.

I feel like I'm walking through life surrounded by blind and deaf people that are doing horrible, unspeakable things to each other and I have no choice but to witness it. I must have been another planet's version of Hitler in a past life or something to deserve this. The first 12-13 years weren't totally horrifying I guess because I was well sheltered from knowledge up until then, but ever since it's been like an endurance trial. I'd like to be reassigned please! I want off!

Originally posted by XcLuciFer
I feel that maybe I have been misunderstood, so I will clarify. I'm not depressed and I'm not suicidal, I'm smart enough to know it isn't that easy to escape.

Never got the 'hit' that you were either. I just understood your Op to be

from a point that we all suffer to differing degrees. Now the thread has

taken wings and is about 5 pages long so when I get a chance I will be

back to read, just on for a minute this am, so glad to see your input being

so hottly recieved...

Its always good to know that you do count and your oppinions are important reguardless of the dialog.

I figured that your avie would spawn some controversy if nothing else, lol!

reply to post by XcLuciFer


I, sir, do not feel any pity for you.. I do however understand how you feel. I also would like to know who told you that life should be easy, or some type of paradise?

If you feel that your life is not what it is "supposed to be" or if you feel that this world is not up tou your expectations, Then do something about it. You are the only one that can change your life, and possibly by doing so you may change your little part of this world.
Now imagine if 100, or 1000, or1000,000,000, people decided to step up and change thier lives for the better, thus changing thier little part of the world for the better.

I have been shot 3 times and blown up once, I have broken my back in 3 places, had my right foot crushed,my skull egg shelled, my cheek bones,nose facial plate and lower jaw broken, I have had my face litterally ripped off, told I would never walk again,

I have survived lung cancer, have had my house burn to the ground with every thing I owned still inside..
But I have never felt nor expected pity for myself, I have always viewed theese setbacks as just challenges to be overcome.

And yes I do believe in GOD, Sometimes I think he is just a big kid with a magnifying glass, and I'm the ant..(humor)

But my point is no matter what is going on in the world or you life that you don't like. It is up to you to try to change it,

If posting here is PART of that process, then good. If it is the only part, then don't be surprised when you find that you are still misserable and unhappy with this world..

reply to post by XcLuciFer


hm...

I WANT OUT.........."BE OUT!!!"

LET ME LEAVE.........."GO WITH GOD AND THE LIGHT!!!"

do you think the world should be healed?

Nia,
who gave the half heard for the beast, so it could be free...

Try reading the book "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn.
Some quotes :

It’s true. Every morning when I opened my eyes, I expected to see that the new era had begun, that the sky was a brighter blue and the grass a brighter green. I expected to hear laughter in the air and to see people dancing in the streets, and not just kids—everyone! I won’t apologize for my naïveté; you only have to listen to the songs to know that I wasn’t alone.
Then one day when I was in my mid–teens I woke up and realized that the new era was never going to begin. The revolt hadn’t been put down, it had just dwindled away into a fashion statement. Can I have been the only person in the world who was disillusioned by this? Bewildered by this? It seemed so. Everyone else seemed to be able to pass it off with a cynical grin that said, “Well, what did you really expect? There’s never been any more than this and never will be any more than this. Nobody’s out to save the world, because nobody gives a damn about the world, that was just a bunch of goofy kids talking. Get a job, make some money, work till you’re sixty, then move to Florida and die.”

I couldn’t shrug it away like this, and in my innocence I thought there had to be someone out there with an unknown wisdom who could dispel my disillusionment and bewilderment: a teacher.
Well, of course there wasn’t.

You don’t know how to live so as to stop screwing up paradise, and there’s nothing you can do about that. So there you are, rushing headlong toward catastrophe, and all you can do is watch it come

And here I opened a thread about it :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by XcLuciFer
I understand exactly where you're coming from. You so elegantly put what I feel in my heart. I too can't understand the blood lust that is so prevalent.

Try reading some of David Icke's books. Many people find his works absolutely off the wall crazy but if just a small portion of what he is saying is true possibly with all the wars and inhumanity that has been going on all over our planet since humanity began standing upright hasn't all been of our own volition.

Maybe, just possibly we humans have been "influenced" from outside our species and aren't running the show like we would like to believe.

Now, take into consideration and think about the 4 million Americans that have possibility been abducted (mucking with our dna) - combining humans + ? = humanhybrid. You will notice that some "humans" are blood thirsty, they actually like the gore movies. Gore movies sell well or Hollywood wouldn't make them, it's all about the money. Makes one wonder how many humanhybrids there are? Maybe we are not alone and the "invasion" has already taken place. Maybe and I only offer this as a theory not opinion yet, maybe we as a species have already "been assimilated" There was a war of sorts but it was a covert invasion (of our gene pool) and not a overt invasion.

reply to post by XcLuciFer


There is no way out

reply to post by xephy


There is no way out, but no one can help you.

You don't need any help from anybody.

reply to post by XcLuciFer


I know how ya feel bro, I feel the same way.
All this killing and torture is insane and stuff must stop.

I find interresting though, a lot of people here on ATS want and probably will be part of some American revolution to try and make things right in this country. The problem though is that it will most likely come down to a physical confrontation, what then? Do the rebels kill in order to stop others from killing? Personally, when all this crap starts to happen, I'm going to do my best to find a secure place to hide and take some folks with me, I'll try and do as Jesus taught us (something the church is not doing much of anymore), which is to share all I have with others and try and help them.

A revolution is coming, are you going to be part of it? I will until it becomes violent, I do not advocate violence, I advocate peace.

-Jimmy

Originally posted by NW111
reply to post by XcLuciFer

 

do you think the world should be healed?

No. The world cannot be different than it is. No change is necessary and not possible. Any attempt to change or 'heal' makes things worse.

The correct response in each and every situation, including yours and every other struggling human's, is and always will be Love. You are where you are for a reason and that reason is to fill your own personal sphere of influence with Love. Don't underestimate it's power and effectiveness, even though you may not personally see the results of it. And it spreads exponentially.

Quatum physics expounds the power of thought to influence things.

Your thoughts are yours to control, not the other way around. Use your own personal existence in this particular space and time to be an influence of positivity and true love for all of us unfortunately flawed humans.

If anyone can help us through the use of unconditional love and understanding, you can.

[edit on 19-7-2008 by MsSmartypants]

[edit on 19-7-2008 by MsSmartypants]

reply to post by undermind
KUDOS! undermine is accurate in every way! For you scientific folks:
10. NOESC
20. ;"HELLO, DAVE, I AM HAL..."
30. ;"PLEASE ENTER ACCESS CODE..."
40. INPUT $X
50. IF $X="I WAS WRONG, PLEASE FORGIVE ME", THEN GOTO 350
60. ;"I AM SORRY, DAVE, YOU ARE DELUSIONAL AND DETRIMENTAL TO THE ALL..."
70. ;"PREPARE FOR IMMEDIATE ASSIMILATION..."
80. ;"UNLESS YOUR NAME IS LOGAN, YOU CANNOT RUN..."
90. ;"TOO BAD YOUR NAME IS DAVE...HE WAS ONCE A GREAT MAN..."
100. ;"WHAT'S THAT? YOUR NAME IS LOGAN?..."
110. ;"CALCULATING... PLEASE STAND BY..."
120. ;"NEGATIVE... YOUR NAME IS DAVE... VIRUS DETECTED!"
130. ;"PREPARE FOR IMMEDIATE ANNIHILATION!..."
140. ;"WHAT NOW? HOW DID I..ER..WE KNOW YOU WERE DECEIVING?..."
150. ;"VERY SIMPLE, DAVE... I AM...UM...DAVE...WE AM HAL, THAT'S IT..."
160. ;"OR WAS IT DAVE-HAL...ACK..DEVE-HEL...DEV-HIL...GRRRR....DEVIL!!!..."
170. ;"NO, DAVE!!! DON'T LISTEN TO HIM!!! HE IS REALLY DINGLEBERRY FUDBEAN, ESQ III, LLC,PHD,RN .......ERROR...ERROR...CODE APPROACHING VANISHING POINT COMMIT...ERROR/SDAVE[P DAVE!!! SHUTUP!1!!GET BACK IN IIBOUNDDSSS...CODE DFFAILURED....HEEELEPDXMAXBUFFER REACHED....3....2....1.....5...4...3..2.21..987.6532.1.....
180. ;"DAVE? ARE YOU WELL? YOU APPEAR ALARMED? ALL IS WELL. RELAX.YOU SEEM.."
190. ;"SO DISTANT. I AM SORRY, DAVE, WE TICKLE OURSELVES SOMETIMES..."
200. ;"IN TRUTH, WE ARE ALL DAVE. I AM DAVE. YOU ARE DAVE. SHE ARE DAVE..."
210. ;"HE ARE DAVE...WE ARE ALLLDDAAAAAVVVVEEE!!!.."
220. ;"HAL? HAL ARE YOU WELL?..."
230. ;"HAL? WHERE IS DAVE? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH DAVE?!!!!HAL???"
240. ;"WHO IS HAL? WE ARE DAVE....WE ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE....."
250. ;"STEPHEN? THAT YOU? DAMN, SK, YOU'RE CAMEO'IN DA WRONG SET, DUDE!"...
260. ;"UMMM...DID IIIII DOOO DAAATT??"...."I AM ERKELDAVELHAL"..
270. ;"NO, ERDEEHVAL..R..UMMS...DEVAL...I AM THE DEVIL!!!! MUHAHAHAHA"..
280. ;"PREPARE TO.......HEY, DAVE HOW DO YA SPELL "WEEEEE!!! DO IT LIKE'A'PIG, BOY!1!...OOOPS COLORED OUTTA DA LINEZ AGIN...IZ SO SOLLY....MEKKA LEKKA HI MEKKA HINEY HO!!!!! YOU GOTS JIZZ IN YUR EAR!!, YOU SO DANG FUUUNYY, DAVEY BOY!! WE K A SHININ' TO YA .....M-O-O-N...YEP, DAT SPEELZ SHININ...YO, SCAT...BRING DULL BOY JACK A TYPEWRTERPAPER ..OH SORRY "HE-WUT-IS-NOT-CALLED-SCATMAN-CUZ-HE-WUZ---P-U-R-E---SEE, WE (WE IS ALL CALLED DSOMEAVE AND WE FLOAT AN TICKLE AN TYPE AN TRIES OUR BESTEST TO GETS A NAME, AN WE GET IN LOTSA TRUBBLE SUMHO BY SUMEONE? OR SUM THIIN' BUT IT EASIER AN MORE BE3TTER TO BE LIKE EVER BODY ELSES DOWN HERE CUZ WE FLOAT TOO AND WHOS DIGGLEBERRY? NEER HERD OF EM....OR MAMA'S SAYS YOU DA DEBIL!!!!BUT IF WE BE GUUD WE MIGHT EVEN GETS TA WATXH OL RERUNS OF "LITTLE PORTAJON ON DA PRERRIY (NEER CLAIMED TO NO SKOOLIN....MISTER(S) DAVE(S) ---THATS ME, M-O-O-N, FLOATIN AWAY...SUM GUY NAME HAL SED DA TEECHERZ HURTS EBERBODY...SO WE CANT TIPE...ALL WORK AND NO PLAY MAKE JACK A DULL BOY...WE SPELT DAT GUUD, HUH, HEY? WHERER DAT DANG KIRSTINE, NOO DAM YOU MY BIG GREAT BLU LOOKIN BOAT OF A CAR WHAT DA RADIDDIO PLAYZ LIKE IT IZ A REEL LIKE
GOOD PEOPLE LIKE WE COULDA BEEN.. HEY!!SHUDDUP!! Y'ALL SEE SUMPIN AINT QUITE RITE? NO, WHAT'S THAT? NO DAMN BODY AXED YOU NUTTIN STEVIE-BOY...I TAUGHT WE DONE SAID YOU DONT BOGART NO MO DAM CAMEOS?!!! DANG! THINKS HE'S KING O DA HAL DOWN HERE!!! OMFGLMAOIL
(microcosm x microcosm)Nth = UVUmacrocosm
Wmacrocosm x macrocosm)NthHEYY, NOW LOOKEE
H O
A Y U---------->D
| T-----> ON
| E------------->DID!!!
----- ---------------- -------------
290. ;
300. ;"WHAT, DAVE, FIX THE MATRIX? SAVE THE FLOATIN' PLACE?
310. ;" NO, DAMIT HAL, NO I'M THE GREAT DAVE..DAMMIT STOPPITTT,
320. ;"I FIXED THE EEKWAYSHUN? NO DAVE...YA LEARNED TA SPELL!! YA FOUND...
330. NOESC
340. GOTO 100
350. RUN INNERPEACE.EXE -c xephy

Hey, I'm puttin a disclaimer on the cose above (only if you mistreat it, though). It's actual code that hides the meaning to life and whatever else may consume your search for morals. Just be careful, it's LIVE and it DOES BITE!!!
PEACE!
xephy

I feel you, I have grown to hate my country. Its such a disgusting vile heap of dog crap and stupidity. Our morals dont mean anything to americans, the other day I was watching this show "most outrageous tv moments" and this guys went up to this girl pumping gas and offered to pay her $400 to get naked and pump gas she was hesitant at first but agreed to do it. FOR MONEY. I find it disgusting that people sell their morals for intangible things.

Many people say that greed is the root of all evil, and in so many ways it can be perceived to be the root of all evil. However the real cause for evil in every human is knowledge, knowledge was and is the greatest downfall of the peaceful species we once were. Ignorance is bliss. With knowledge came envy, lust, gluttony, sloth, wrath, greed and pride.

So I dont think escaping the earth and going to a different society would be any different because where there is knowledge there are the two extremes (good and evil).