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There is an old proverb which says; you can't make straight that which is crooked.
We live in a crooked world. Who has the power to change it? Not you or I.
The "Polyanna" days are over. The days of hedonism are over. It is time for the world to go down, and it is! Look around, and everyone and everything is affected. This is as it should be. We are enduring sufferings under "A Great Contest."
As a human race that are actually lemmings; we are not victims, we are volunteers. With that said, we all have a choice:
"Some day...you will be wrestling with the great temptation,
Or trembling under the great sorrow of your life.
But the real struggle is here, now...
Now it is being decided whether,
You shall miserably fail or gloriously conquer."
- Phillips Brooks
"We make our destinies by our choice of Gods."
- Virgil
We live in a crooked world. Who has the power to change it? Not you or I.
The "Polyanna" days are over. The days of hedonism are over. It is time for the world to go down, and it is! Look around, and everyone and everything is affected. This is as it should be. We are enduring sufferings under "A Great Contest."
As a human race that are actually lemmings; we are not victims, we are volunteers. With that said, we all have a choice:
"Some day...you will be wrestling with the great temptation,
Or trembling under the great sorrow of your life.
But the real struggle is here, now...
Now it is being decided whether,
You shall miserably fail or gloriously conquer."
- Phillips Brooks
"We make our destinies by our choice of Gods."
- Virgil
thats whats uve been feeling but ive realized that we are going to have to stop it its not gonna go away by itself we are goona be the ojes to fix
things if anythign is done at all
Originally posted by XcLuciFer
I didn't sign up for this, and I demand to be relocated, released.
Though a lot of people would agree with your negative outlook on this corrupt life we all live......I however have a different view on the way things are....
If you have a moment I can share with you my thoughts.......
First of all, you did sign up for this!
I know its really hard wrap your head around but let me explain it this way.
Your spirit is just, it is always seeking truth, and what is right.
Most people don't believe in reincarnation but it plays a role in this situation.
If you haven't become enlightened, when you die, you are basically recycled. Another form or body that can teach you what your past life did wrong. So your spirit assigns you another role to play. Your spirit wants you to become enlightened. When it puts you back into this training ground called earth, then you have another chance to prove yourself.
You need to change your outlook. If you turn it around to reflect positive thoughts and feelings, then you have a better chance to become enlightened and move on to the next stage of life. Instead, being pessimistic about this corrupt life, you are only adding to the misery and hate of this sorry planet.
What can you do?
That is up to you to decide.
You must have a positive outlook! Even when all hope has failed!
I hope that made some sense
luci, (op)
you know what you might want to entertain? (i hope i'm not bending the TOC here)
grab your best friend, take a day pack with water and a small snack) to some nice mountains or a desert region, bring along some little "fungus friends", and just tune into the vibe of nature for the day. an adventure and symphony will show itself to you.
it's amazing and quite therapeutic. just enjoy the input of nature because your surrounded by life. your not just alone out there. it's an entire neighborhood of life living with each other.
you'll have plenty of energy to hike and get the real feel of things. when you and your good friend come home, you will feel like you have been washed and cleansed and revitalized. the experience you will have that day will stick with you for a long time.
(maybe it was a lizard that came out from the bush to greet you, maybe a bird came and hung out with you? -because normally they don't) it's the things like that, that normally go "unnoticed", but also show you that there IS something out there, and it's GREAT. (and i'm talking about life)
i know your not depressed, but i was in a pretty bad funk once, and i applied the above technique and came out shining and a whole new perspective on things.
you know what you might want to entertain? (i hope i'm not bending the TOC here)
grab your best friend, take a day pack with water and a small snack) to some nice mountains or a desert region, bring along some little "fungus friends", and just tune into the vibe of nature for the day. an adventure and symphony will show itself to you.
it's amazing and quite therapeutic. just enjoy the input of nature because your surrounded by life. your not just alone out there. it's an entire neighborhood of life living with each other.
you'll have plenty of energy to hike and get the real feel of things. when you and your good friend come home, you will feel like you have been washed and cleansed and revitalized. the experience you will have that day will stick with you for a long time.
(maybe it was a lizard that came out from the bush to greet you, maybe a bird came and hung out with you? -because normally they don't) it's the things like that, that normally go "unnoticed", but also show you that there IS something out there, and it's GREAT. (and i'm talking about life)
i know your not depressed, but i was in a pretty bad funk once, and i applied the above technique and came out shining and a whole new perspective on things.
reply to post by IMAdamnALIEN
thank you I agree with you ( see my post page 5). As a Bible believeing Christian I'm still undecided as to reincarnation though I'm leaning toward it being true.
I strongly suggest you change your user name, the word 'damn' is not to be used lightly. Words have power. That's how The Creator designed existence to operate.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by MsSmartypants]
thank you I agree with you ( see my post page 5). As a Bible believeing Christian I'm still undecided as to reincarnation though I'm leaning toward it being true.
I strongly suggest you change your user name, the word 'damn' is not to be used lightly. Words have power. That's how The Creator designed existence to operate.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by MsSmartypants]
reply to post by MsSmartypants
Im not damned, I'm a damn alien, there's a difference
Your an alien, Im an alien, we are all damn aliens!
I agree that words have power (otherworldly and otherwise)
[edit on 19-7-2008 by IMAdamnALIEN]
Im not damned, I'm a damn alien, there's a difference
Your an alien, Im an alien, we are all damn aliens!
I agree that words have power (otherworldly and otherwise)
[edit on 19-7-2008 by IMAdamnALIEN]
I believe he means the world, events, along with his life.
I understand you my friend, this world can be paradise, except
its not and is run by the elite who want everyone below them to suffer. This
can definitely change in an instant, we the people must fight back.
Not through violence, but with strength. Some people are lucky, they were born into rich families, they were born into a business. Not everyone is that fortunate. It's still a bit early, 2008. I believe by 2012-2025 the world will be a wonderful place, maybe earlier...We need a great leader.
To all the people saying "go on a vacation", "go eat at a fine restaurant."
You need a reality check.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by Ferengi]
I understand you my friend, this world can be paradise, except
its not and is run by the elite who want everyone below them to suffer. This
can definitely change in an instant, we the people must fight back.
Not through violence, but with strength. Some people are lucky, they were born into rich families, they were born into a business. Not everyone is that fortunate. It's still a bit early, 2008. I believe by 2012-2025 the world will be a wonderful place, maybe earlier...We need a great leader.
To all the people saying "go on a vacation", "go eat at a fine restaurant."
You need a reality check.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by Ferengi]
I am amazed how you guys think; so much like me, in heart and intellect. We are the Warrior Spirits; those of us who *have* signed up to help the
Human race out in these troubled times. Did we truly realize what we were agreeing to? Probably not. Likely, we wouldn't have come here if we did. I
believe we were told it would be ‘very difficult,’ but we were willing enough to face down whatever problems we would have to face. And so here we
are, like it or not. We are not them (the normal souls to whom this world belongs.) Not that they can't be loving, wise, understanding, strong, loyal
and brave, but they are often easily corrupted. We are not, and if we are corrupted we usually fight our way back to the true self, or we literally go
insane from the contradiction.
Please don't leave before your true time has come. I believe that if you do you will only be returned here again anyway. I think there is a lesson to be learned, or perhaps something similar to what we symbolize in the form of a badge for courage, that we are meant to gain from our experiences here. I don't think we are just here to help, but to learn and grow also. We are here because we were judged to have the ability to handle the trials. So we must.
I sympathize with you deeply, XcLucifer, and I feel exactly the same. I have learned to accept the world for how it is (not to give up the struggle, but to accept its current state while I struggle against it.) That is important; that balance. Finding it allows you to handle it. And by the way, what does XcLucifer mean anyway? (I assume there is some purpose behind it.) It almost sounds like Ex-Lucifer, as in 'evil no longer.'
Anyway, please believe in yourself. You can make it, and without realizing it you are making it each day. I used to spend many hours each day wondering how I was going to handle the weight of this world, and one day, all of a sudden, I realized that I was doing it! Each day I got up, I worked, I fought to be me -- in myself, in my expressions -- and I went home, thought and reflected, and went to bed. While wondering how I would handle it, I was handling it! One day at a time. I laughed and felt silly yet enlightened at this realization. I hope it helps.
Signed, Neurolanis.
Please don't leave before your true time has come. I believe that if you do you will only be returned here again anyway. I think there is a lesson to be learned, or perhaps something similar to what we symbolize in the form of a badge for courage, that we are meant to gain from our experiences here. I don't think we are just here to help, but to learn and grow also. We are here because we were judged to have the ability to handle the trials. So we must.
I sympathize with you deeply, XcLucifer, and I feel exactly the same. I have learned to accept the world for how it is (not to give up the struggle, but to accept its current state while I struggle against it.) That is important; that balance. Finding it allows you to handle it. And by the way, what does XcLucifer mean anyway? (I assume there is some purpose behind it.) It almost sounds like Ex-Lucifer, as in 'evil no longer.'
Anyway, please believe in yourself. You can make it, and without realizing it you are making it each day. I used to spend many hours each day wondering how I was going to handle the weight of this world, and one day, all of a sudden, I realized that I was doing it! Each day I got up, I worked, I fought to be me -- in myself, in my expressions -- and I went home, thought and reflected, and went to bed. While wondering how I would handle it, I was handling it! One day at a time. I laughed and felt silly yet enlightened at this realization. I hope it helps.
Signed, Neurolanis.
Op, I often feel as you do. There is some good advice in here as well as bad advice. Take what is meaningful and inspiring to you and ignore all the
rest. The flippant remarks don't even deserve to be aknowledged. Perhaps when we chose to come here, we did not realise just how chaotic, strange and
cruel this world could be. Now that we know, it might help to be warriors of light so to speak. Even the smallest of lights can illuminate the
darkness.
I wish you the courage and strength that it takes. I wish you a semblance of peace somewhere inside yourself. Know that you are not alone in your thoughts and feelings and that together with like-minded people we can be strong and make a difference in the world, no matter how small. Already I am smiling knowing that there are so many like us, and in that thought I hold on to the hope that it inspires.
I wish you the courage and strength that it takes. I wish you a semblance of peace somewhere inside yourself. Know that you are not alone in your thoughts and feelings and that together with like-minded people we can be strong and make a difference in the world, no matter how small. Already I am smiling knowing that there are so many like us, and in that thought I hold on to the hope that it inspires.
I am amazed how you guys think; so much like me, in heart and intellect. We are the Warrior Spirits; those of us who *have* signed up to help the
Human race out in these troubled times. Did we truly realize what we were agreeing to? Probably not. Likely, we wouldn't have come here if we did. I
believe we were told it would be ‘very difficult,’ but we were willing enough to face down whatever problems we would have to face. And so here we
are, like it or not. We are not them (the normal souls to whom this world belongs.) Not that they can't be loving, wise, understanding, strong, loyal
and brave, but they are often easily corrupted. We are not, and if we are corrupted we usually fight our way back to the true self, or we literally go
insane from the contradiction.
Please don't leave before your true time has come. I believe that if you do you will only be returned here again anyway. I think there is a lesson to be learned, or perhaps something similar to what we symbolize in the form of a badge for courage, that we are meant to gain from our experiences here. I don't think we are just here to help, but to learn and grow also. We are here because we were judged to have the ability to handle the trials. So we must.
I sympathize with you deeply, XcLucifer, and I feel exactly the same. I have learned to accept the world for how it is (not to give up the struggle, but to accept its current state while I struggle against it.) That is important; that balance. Finding it allows you to handle it. And by the way, what does XcLucifer mean anyway? (I assume there is some purpose behind it.) It almost sounds like Ex-Lucifer, as in 'evil no longer.'
Anyway, please believe in yourself. You can make it, and without realizing it you are making it each day. I used to spend many hours each day wondering how I was going to handle the weight of this world, and one day, all of a sudden, I realized that I was doing it! Each day I got up, I worked, I fought to be me -- in myself, in my expressions -- and I went home, thought and reflected, and went to bed. While wondering how I would handle it, I was handling it! One day at a time. I laughed and felt silly yet enlightened at this realization. I hope it helps.
Please don't leave before your true time has come. I believe that if you do you will only be returned here again anyway. I think there is a lesson to be learned, or perhaps something similar to what we symbolize in the form of a badge for courage, that we are meant to gain from our experiences here. I don't think we are just here to help, but to learn and grow also. We are here because we were judged to have the ability to handle the trials. So we must.
I sympathize with you deeply, XcLucifer, and I feel exactly the same. I have learned to accept the world for how it is (not to give up the struggle, but to accept its current state while I struggle against it.) That is important; that balance. Finding it allows you to handle it. And by the way, what does XcLucifer mean anyway? (I assume there is some purpose behind it.) It almost sounds like Ex-Lucifer, as in 'evil no longer.'
Anyway, please believe in yourself. You can make it, and without realizing it you are making it each day. I used to spend many hours each day wondering how I was going to handle the weight of this world, and one day, all of a sudden, I realized that I was doing it! Each day I got up, I worked, I fought to be me -- in myself, in my expressions -- and I went home, thought and reflected, and went to bed. While wondering how I would handle it, I was handling it! One day at a time. I laughed and felt silly yet enlightened at this realization. I hope it helps.
Well America has lost its Christian footing, It isn't a matter of believing it or not.it is more a matter of living by it. So that the country has
humanity and charity in its code of ethics.
Today the people are not willing to follow this Christian life style . They believe because they don't believe in the bible and have made their minds up that it is a fairy tale . This leads to them not living like Christians.
So the the lessons of Christianity are thrown out as well.
What fills the void is Chaos.
That is why America is today corrupt ,vile and with no morality.
Once you chuck the bible you also chuck the code of ethics along with it.
Today America is the most corrupt place on the earth .
where the politicians have sold the American people out for a few shekels of silver.
Today the people are not willing to follow this Christian life style . They believe because they don't believe in the bible and have made their minds up that it is a fairy tale . This leads to them not living like Christians.
So the the lessons of Christianity are thrown out as well.
What fills the void is Chaos.
That is why America is today corrupt ,vile and with no morality.
Once you chuck the bible you also chuck the code of ethics along with it.
Today America is the most corrupt place on the earth .
where the politicians have sold the American people out for a few shekels of silver.
reply to post by XcLuciFer
Let me guess... you're a Generation Why kid right? It would explain a lot of why you feel the way you do.
Let's just say you have a good reason to feel this way but a better reason to still hang on.
I'm sure you go about your days and every now and again you stumble upon something so horrible that your logical thought say to you : Well there's always that OTHER place. That We can always just leave and be free from this. That it's just this place and at that OTHER place it's much better. This other place is another world (planet).
But then as natural as it felt to express that emotion and thought, you suddenly realize that, wait a sec... I'm STUCK here.. I can't go live a meaningful life elsewhere out in a more exciting surroundings... cause we've not even colonized the moon yet. Yet it pains you to see the suffering around you, the people in pain and the obvious remedy sitting in front of everyone, but they're too blind to see... or more likely too dumb...
So, you feel isolated and alone... wishing for something better. For a purpose in life. To feel that you have a meaning, a goal... something to fight for that actually makes sense.
Well... You ARE on a wonderful world... it's ours. It's our second home from the stars. We've been given this place to nurture and take care of it. OUR JOB is to make sure that's kept at all costs. No more Oil Drilling... It's the blood of the earth and we're draining it. No more mass production and contamination of the sea, air and live. These things are what we have to fight for. These things will give you a purpose to live and find meaning in your life. It will build you up to the day you'll know what it means to be here... when your child looks at you and you realize just how important it is for you to do this for them. It's humans fight to have a legacy that will be our trademark. The one thing that will keep us going till there's only the stars to reach...
Hope, is what you must have and faith in what we can accomplish as a race is beyond anything you can ever imagine.
Someone once said : Humans can have such horrible nightmares, and yet have the most beautiful dreams... The world is now a living nightmare. Time to inflict some of that beautiful dream we all share of a better world.
We're more than one who feels like you. The turning point comes when you decide to join us to make a difference. It will give you pride and something to live for.
Let me guess... you're a Generation Why kid right? It would explain a lot of why you feel the way you do.
Let's just say you have a good reason to feel this way but a better reason to still hang on.
I'm sure you go about your days and every now and again you stumble upon something so horrible that your logical thought say to you : Well there's always that OTHER place. That We can always just leave and be free from this. That it's just this place and at that OTHER place it's much better. This other place is another world (planet).
But then as natural as it felt to express that emotion and thought, you suddenly realize that, wait a sec... I'm STUCK here.. I can't go live a meaningful life elsewhere out in a more exciting surroundings... cause we've not even colonized the moon yet. Yet it pains you to see the suffering around you, the people in pain and the obvious remedy sitting in front of everyone, but they're too blind to see... or more likely too dumb...
So, you feel isolated and alone... wishing for something better. For a purpose in life. To feel that you have a meaning, a goal... something to fight for that actually makes sense.
Well... You ARE on a wonderful world... it's ours. It's our second home from the stars. We've been given this place to nurture and take care of it. OUR JOB is to make sure that's kept at all costs. No more Oil Drilling... It's the blood of the earth and we're draining it. No more mass production and contamination of the sea, air and live. These things are what we have to fight for. These things will give you a purpose to live and find meaning in your life. It will build you up to the day you'll know what it means to be here... when your child looks at you and you realize just how important it is for you to do this for them. It's humans fight to have a legacy that will be our trademark. The one thing that will keep us going till there's only the stars to reach...
Hope, is what you must have and faith in what we can accomplish as a race is beyond anything you can ever imagine.
Someone once said : Humans can have such horrible nightmares, and yet have the most beautiful dreams... The world is now a living nightmare. Time to inflict some of that beautiful dream we all share of a better world.
We're more than one who feels like you. The turning point comes when you decide to join us to make a difference. It will give you pride and something to live for.
I offer you a way out. Except that which you cannot change and embrace the darkness. People on here will preach to you on how much life is has much to
offer but in reality they live a lie. This world and many others ( I presume) are all alike, always looking for the good but always without realixing
it the bad. What do I mean you ask...think of this...all these so-called good people wil ask you to find peace but the same people will ask for life
of someone who they feel deserves it. Examples..pedophile, terrorists and simple murderers. They have all chosen to believe they are fine people
without any hate, the reality is...they are the blind ones. I have chosen the my path and except it and do not lie to myself. If heaven exists it
sounds boring, hell sound has pleasures with out consequences and thats what you need, to enjoy life without being judged my a supreme being or just
regular folks. Let's face it people may disagree with what others do but in the end its us who live it.
reply to post by riggs2099
Dude you're not helping the guy!
Sure horrible things are all around us... But I bet you can't see the good anymore or at all. You've gotten so used to seeing all the horrible things that you cannot even detect it if you were looking right at it.
Not everyone has to be that far gone to end up in a pit of despair...
He's still got a chance to see the good things that are here... since you don't know what those are... I don't think you can preach to him about anything but the bad.
I's not a lifestyle you're living... remember that...
If you find EVERYTHING HORRIBLE here on earth and about us, then you're clearly depressed... And that's a different story.
Give him a chance and don't ruin it for him with your negativity.
Dude you're not helping the guy!
Sure horrible things are all around us... But I bet you can't see the good anymore or at all. You've gotten so used to seeing all the horrible things that you cannot even detect it if you were looking right at it.
Not everyone has to be that far gone to end up in a pit of despair...
He's still got a chance to see the good things that are here... since you don't know what those are... I don't think you can preach to him about anything but the bad.
I's not a lifestyle you're living... remember that...
If you find EVERYTHING HORRIBLE here on earth and about us, then you're clearly depressed... And that's a different story.
Give him a chance and don't ruin it for him with your negativity.
reply to post by Element-115
Definitely not depressed. Just not blinded by people trying to make believe your all good...there maybe good in the world....and those people live lives that have got to be the most boring. Sin is In...lol....go that way and enjoy yourself. Yu have heard the saying sex, drugs and rock n roll....never have heard a phrase that puts in any better.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by riggs2099]
Definitely not depressed. Just not blinded by people trying to make believe your all good...there maybe good in the world....and those people live lives that have got to be the most boring. Sin is In...lol....go that way and enjoy yourself. Yu have heard the saying sex, drugs and rock n roll....never have heard a phrase that puts in any better.
[edit on 19-7-2008 by riggs2099]
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there's nothing new or cutting edge about doing what comes naturally. it didn't just get invented a couple decades ago. what the religions of the world all seem to have in common is the thread that you are more than an animal. you have the ability to not only decide for yourself (no programming necessary) to do or not do something, you also have the capacity to rise above your physical nature and put it in submission to your spirit. a runner learns to ignore discomfort to achieve physical fitness. etc. we're all on this road. some are doing better than others, and some times it's a matter of degrees--better in one area, worse in another. and of course, there's local interpretation and social mores (which are so fickle, they might as well be called social fickles... err... yeah
there's nothing new or cutting edge about doing what comes naturally. it didn't just get invented a couple decades ago. what the religions of the world all seem to have in common is the thread that you are more than an animal. you have the ability to not only decide for yourself (no programming necessary) to do or not do something, you also have the capacity to rise above your physical nature and put it in submission to your spirit. a runner learns to ignore discomfort to achieve physical fitness. etc. we're all on this road. some are doing better than others, and some times it's a matter of degrees--better in one area, worse in another. and of course, there's local interpretation and social mores (which are so fickle, they might as well be called social fickles... err... yeah
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