Starlike objects that move strangely in the sky

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And what harm would it do to double check that it wasn't a satellite. How can you prove anything to anyone (especially hardcore skeptics) when they ask if you've checked something and you reply "oh I don't need to check it looks different".

Originally posted by yeebsy
reply to post by buds84

 

And what harm would it do to double check that it wasn't a satellite. How can you prove anything to anyone (especially hardcore skeptics) when they ask if you've checked something and you reply "oh I don't need to check it looks different".

Yeah if all it does is go in a straight line, it would be wise to check out the satellites website. So how does that work, do you just check the times on the website??

But of course if it changes directions etc, it obviously isn't a satallite and therefore we wouldn't have to check.

[edit on 17-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by buds84
reply to post by yeebsy

 

Most of us seeing these have ruled out satellites.
Simply because they know that satellites don't move at fast speeds and they stay on their path most of which are in geostationary orbit anyways.
The movement of a satellite is very slow when it needs to move. There are no gas stations in space, and satellites are not made to move around the planet at any high speed.
Most Satellites need refueling every 10 years.



[edit on 16-7-2008 by buds84]

Hey do you know how fast they move thou, slower or faster than a commercial plane far away?

Yeah.
Satellites speed depends on the type of satellite and how high it is.
By it self the satellites move very slow. Add the earth spinning it adds up to moving extremely fast if it is moving in the opposite direction of the spin, But almost every satellite I've heard of moves East of the equator.

Earths surface orbit is 7.90km/s
Closer to Earth is the International Space Station witch is 380 km up in space from the ground and it moves at a whopping 7.68 km/s .

After that Hubble Space Telescope at 600km high moves at 7.56 km/s

Now skip a few satellites higher up is Navstar GPS Satellite at 20,200km high moving at 3.07 km/s

Basically the closer to earth the satellite is the faster it will seem to move, however these satellite speeds with the Earth orbiting means you can barely notice these satellites moving at all.

Satellites are orbiting faster than planes flying, but us looking at the planes go by, the plane will seem move across our sky much faster than a satellite.

So what this means is, if you see something moving in the sky that's not moving directly East of the equator (I think it will look like its moving West very slow though because the Earth is spinning faster than the satellites speed) then its probably not a satellite.

Disposal Satellites will move directly West and float off in space I think when done but that's a rare one to see.

You can almost never see a satellite with the naked eye.

The best way I can think of it is basically if you happen to see one with your naked eye that's closer to Earth, it will take about 1 hour to move across yours sky. Compared to a plane that's pretty damn slow.

I'm almost sure I'm right about this but don't shoot me if I'm a little off, I'm about to hit the sac.

reply to post by _Phoenix_



To check the website just put what coordinates you are at (there is a map function if you do not know your co-ords.) and it will tell you when sats are passing. The Iridium stats rotate so it will also tell you when an Iridium flare is due. Very spectacular.

good website for real

Originally posted by yeebsy
reply to post by _Phoenix_

 

To check the website just put what coordinates you are at (there is a map function if you do not know your co-ords.) and it will tell you when sats are passing. The Iridium stats rotate so it will also tell you when an Iridium flare is due. Very spectacular.

Yeah thanks, I shall write them down on paper if I'm ever to go gazing at the sky. At least I will get to see them, if I don't see any UFO's

[edit on 17-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]

reply to post by buds84


Hey man thank for the very detailed reply.

If you right about the hour accross the sky part, then the ones I've seen were probably UFO's, what I saw went pretty quick as fast as a plane and dissappeared soon after. And like I said earlier, I don't know if it was my eyes, but it seemed to wobble too.



[edit on 17-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]

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Cool,


At least this way certain things can be ruled out. Keep hunting.

Ok, I want to make another referance to the mufon, "last 20 reports" page. This morning, a posting from Ontario Canada from the 16th I believe. Title is...."Star like with Redish Blue flashing and dramatic movement "".......Complete with a video link. Instead of starting a new thread, to proclaim this emerging number of reports about "star-like" UFO's...and to link the video, I figured it still belonged here.

In his report, I love how he makes the statement to mufon that.....

"I must add, if you guys have anyone in London, or close by. I can garentee 100% they will see UFOs in the clear sky at night. I apologize for the video quality, they were filmed with a pretty bad digital camera. But they are 100% geniune, I have a witness to back it up. ""

I'm new here, and don't know the protocol on linking someone else's video. So, I didn't attempt it. I figure anyone following this thread knows of the mufon "last 20 report page. On this report he gives his YouTube name.

This is what we have been saying here...GO OUTSIDE AND LOOK!!!

reply to post by starcraft


here is the links
mufon latest 20


story

Star like with Redish Blue flashing and dramatic movement

We noticed 3 at first, we watched 2 leave the sky in a fire fly type motion. It would be very bright, then go dull and appear farther down the sky again.

One of the coolest events that happend was, the 3rd object that stayed for over an hour, whilst it was moving around from left/right and up/down very randomly, it moved so fast and akwardly that to our vision it looked sorta like a lightning bolt for a split second. Me and my friend both witness these events aswell.

Often at times, the object would fade right out so that you could not see it. Another amazing event was, we noticed the object flash, then it showed a red, then blue light im a strange pattern, then we seen another object appear beside it then shoot off into the sky.

Myself witnessed, the object emitting a lightning like light beside the object that happend a few times, and the color of this light was blue and white. My friend did not witness that part.

Instead of the clips, I will attach my youtube profile wich has all 3 clips I have. The clips were not on the same date as the above desription. The vidoes were on the 17th and 18th of July. All videos were filmed in London Ontario.

I must add, if you guys have anyone in London, or close by. I can garentee 100% they will see UFOs in the clear sky at night. I apologize for the video quality, they were filmed with a pretty bad digital camera. But they are 100% geniune, I have a witness to back it up.

www.youtube.com...

other story from same day

Star-like ufo show up early before sunrise

The Early morning of july16 , i woke up at 4h50am planing doing a day fishing trip^with my friend. Like each day i go put my dog outside and check for the newspaper. but something caught my attention just over my neighbour house. its a red white glow star like, direction west,south-west. The size of the object is 25cen coin. its the only light on sky its a cloudy sunset morning so i could see any star in sky but i see that light away.

i go inside take my cam put in on night vision mode and film it for about 3-4min. then i switch on normal mode to see difference between mode, suddendly the light fade, could see nothing. i run on my backyard with a large view north, north east. after 20-30sec off scanning the sky my ufo show back from a cloud become very bright only white this time.start moving up on the other cloud for hiding with a strange pattern a helicopter or plane cant do. i see nothing after that.

with my job am doing about flying each year on chopper like Astar, md530 its not what i saw.

if Someone around have seeing the same object please report it. its same to be all on north east cost.

from the day after

Bright white/blue light, silently traveling right to left. Way too fast to be a jet or helicopter

I was sitting in my living room, reading a magazine when suddenly I saw a bright white/blue light traveling very rapidly across the sky, about 40 degrees above the horizon.It was so bright, it was easy to spot at attracted my attention right away.

I saw it out a three huge windows totaling about 15 feet wide and 8 feet tall, where I can see a large part of the night sky. It was quiet in the house, and there was no noise made at all by this object, which appeared to be about a quarter mile away.

It was going so fast, I've never seen a plane travel at that rate before. At first, I thought it was a firefly, but it was far too bright and going much faster than any firefly could move. It only took a few seconds for it to cross completely across my field of view. It moved straight across without stopping.

the starlike ufo's are plenty these days

these are all what i just found at mufon latest 20

there is a lot more of sightings out there, i agree that its 100% certain to see a "star-ufo" on a clear night.

i've done that for a forthnight in may 2008 when it was my new hobby

Thank you skywatch....great post. I've been very busy with work, and only been popping in and out. I think we should link these mufon reports daily if necessary.....to bring attention to this phenom. I go very few days without seeing referance to these "star-like" objects.

The sheer number worldwide....with SUCH similar description........IS becoming the proof, the evidence. As more video becomes available, it can only ad to the present mountain of witness descriptions, that gets added to almost daily.

UFO interested individuals need to be following this thread. THIS has been our breaking news event of recent.......in my humble opinion of course.

I would like to make a request of moderators. If any new threads are attempted dealing with this "star-like" phenomenon, I believe it should be re-directed here to reduce redundancy. Thank you.

reply to post by starcraft


Wow.. that is a pretty encompassing phrase. I don't even see how doing that would be possible.. given the resources ATS has. Especially since quite frequently people start new threads here before searching for threads on the same subject.

and obviously there are threads about this started by those in the above network like for the radio show, etc... ATS mix. They recently spoke with a group that uses new technology to observe and record these star-like objects and capture direct evidence of their existence.. aka Project Phyre Phly!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Important research!

-ChriS


[edit on 20-7-2008 by BlasteR]

Bristol Area - UK 11pm Sat 19th July 2008

Anyone else see red glowing 'objects' doing circle formations around the Bristol area?
I witnessed this stuff over prob approx an hour. Hopefully have some recording of it too. I'll have to check that out later today(sunday) edit and convert it to disc /pc whatever as I have an oldish vcr camcorder.
If it's anygood I'll try logging onto ATS properly and hopefully have a youtube link for it or similar video site (I'll have to join youtube I guess!)

But if anyone was watching, what was going on? I watched from South Wales and there could be 20miles distance from myself to what I'm talking about (20miles is a guesstimate!)

Really odd and I hope I captured enough. Tried zooming in, etc. but the viewing screen was so black I could have been zoomed onto a rooftop aerial!

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I'm new to ATS.. I too live in North Eastern USA (MA) I moved on top of a hill here in my town and i get a real good view of the town and beyond...Clear night you see alot of stars...But on July 4th, 2008 I was wacthing the fireworks and I decieded to look up just saying to myself that today would be a good reason for any type of UFO to be watching. I looked up and thought it was a satelite. It was moving slow in one direction...Called my wife to show her she shrugged it off...Maybe 10 min later looked up again. It stopped in one spot and began to zig zag in all directions. I thought it was me as I called my wife again. She saw it moving funny too. Long story short It wasn't anything I've seen before...I waited for the day that I will see anything in the sky UFO type. My mother-law came out saw it too and noticed another right above our house....I must of watched it for 2 hours then the 1st one I spotted began to slowly disappear, but the 2nd one stayed right above the house....I went to bed thinking WOW and I was never going to see anything like that again

Then July 21, 2008 i looked outside and saw a flashing star....It looked like a star but there was alot of activity going on...I was seeing another one! It was zig zagging & spinning. Have you ever put a flash light in the fog and you can see that beam of light....I was seeing it everytime it spun in different directions. Then I thought I was seeing things but it looked like little faint lights going to and falling at a downward diaganol. I thought it was me...but then I saw a stonger light that went downward and faded quickly. I know what I saw and I know I'm not crazy.

Now I have a funny feeling something BIG is going to happen here in the world....Just don't know what it is....I'm saying that b/c 1 month before 9/11 I had a dream that planes were falling from the sky and my wife was working at AA as the people who do the metal checking with the wand...I told her to quit b/c of my dream and she did so....only 1 month later to have 9/11 happen.

Now I have read that people try to meditate. Now does that have any funny effect on how they act? b/c i've thought of trying that too
and also I'm thinking about using the old flashlight teqnique? Anyone interested reply back to the post would be very interesting.

I saw one of these star like objects also

It was blue with a slight flicker, and almost looked as if light was concentrated from one side. It wobbled left, back right, then up then back down, always moving back to it's 'original' position. It zigzagged up, zigzagged back down, and all in all freaked out my gf and I. I tried to telepathically communicate with the object, asking it to show some more intelligable movement, but it would just continue doing what it was doing.

It was located near a constellation that looked like a Triangle, with one side of the triangle having a mid point that divided the whole triangle into two almost perfect triangles. Mars was visible to the east of the constellation and the object was a little south of it.

I've been meaning to look to the skies to see if the object is still there. I think i'll do that tonight.

again from mufon latest 20 (se above post for link)


2008-07-26

Silver-blue star-like object

I was preparing to go to bed after watching TV. It was a clear night and I looked out of my window up to the sky as is my habit. It was a clear night and I live in a rural area so there is little light pollution.

I saw a star-like object moving across the sky in a South-Easterly direction. Its trajectory was a flattish curve. I estimate its altitude to be about 20,000 feet but I could not say how big it was. It shone blue/brilliant white. It was certainly not a satellite as it was far too low and it was not a meteor as it did not have a tail, nor did it "flash" as a meteor does in the atmosphere. It was not a jet.

The object was silent and appeared to be moving fast. I went outside and watched it as it went away from me towards the low moon and was soon lost against the background of it.

I can best describe it thus: It was as if the planet Venus, as we see it from Earth, had detatched itself from the heavens and flown off into the void.

Hope this is useful to you.

Best wishes,

Mark

other related reports

July 24 2008

3 bright orange light
my family and I were sitting outside about 10:10pm. Up in the sky we seen this bright orange ball at first we thought it was a plane on fire. The more we looked at it, it was round and right over the tree line in the cloud. In a second it was gone, a few mins later it appeared to be at a different spot then gone again. About 10 mins later we seen 3 round balls in the sky really bright orange it stay for a few min then gone. This was something !

July 24 2008

This sighting is the exact same as I posted about last year. Small tiny little flashing white lights going all ove the sky--then meeting up and flashing bright orange glow very large very bright followed by audible sound.--then very far apart suddenly.
I was arriving home at ecactly 10:20pm EST last night at my home on the edge of town Lafayette Indiana. My home is located right off US Hwy 26 headed towards Rossville IN. I wasn't even looking at the sky--was paying attention to the road and very noticably were 3 large bright orange spheres. I said "here we go again"--it was the same as I reported to MUFON last year. 3 large balls of orange/yellow color, followed by a plane like noise (fairly loud)--and then nothingness---then separately very far apart--like opposite areas of your vision you see very very small white flashing lights. Last time someone posted saying that it is a refueling exercise at Grisson Airforce Base in Peru Indiana--and I could believe that however the speed that they disappear and reappear is like nothing I have ever seen with even military aircraft.

This thread is creeping me out!

I have seen the very same thing on 3 different dates.

The first time I seriuosly thought I was seeing some kind of wierd meteorite falling but it was way too slow and it lasted way too long. it was as bright as venus then got real bright and moved then it started to dim a little then it desapeared.

The second time the same exact thing at the same exact time 8:30 pm local pacific time zone in the same exact spot in the sky 3 weeks later that was last year then just two nights ago the same exact thing
WHATS GOING ON

reply to post by SLAYER69


i really don't know, all i know is that these are visible every night that the sky is clear.

on the 23th and 24th (two days ago) i went out with a freind just to look for these. on the 23 we vitnessed 7 star-like-moving objects, not counting what seemed to be the same ones appearing multiple times. on the 24 we "only" saw 3 including one that zigzaged very fast while moving.

i have seen these all summer and i suggest to anyone reading this thread to use the clear skied nights to look for these. from 11pm to 3am when the sky is dark is the best time.

[edit on 25-7-2008 by skywatch]

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I agree the first time I was alone the second time I was with my girlfriend and we were having a late night BBQ with an elderly couple friends of ours and the two females went in and then I saw it but my elder friends eye were bad and he missed the whole show the third and last time my girlfriend saw the whole thing and she was like

Is that what you have been talking about? WOW!

I was like I told you so!