Starlike objects that move strangely in the sky

reply to post by buds84


I'm hoping you are just doing guess work there.

Do you really know if they are bad, or you think they are?

Well after reading and looking at hours of documentary's downloaded from torrents and the net, I haven't seen seen much people have "friendly" or "playful" experiences with aliens.
I have seen a just a few people who had somewhat "good" experiences with aliens but all of these people were gifted with some kind Psychic powers.
everyone else says it was all horrible meeting aliens.
Honestly how fun is it to be woken up from sleep to be tested on for a couple hours when you have work the next morning?
this guy didn't look like he had a good time at all
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by buds84
Thats what I mean, its common for Alien spacecraft to do these impossible turns and fly around, to me there just alien spacecrafts.

Or super high tech top secret man made drones/craft, you can't rule out that possibility as it's all guess work on our part at the moment and it's best to keep an open mind on all scenarios instead of putting all your eggs in one basket so to speak

Originally posted by buds84Now to think these are friendly playful space creatures that are here to help us sounds absolutely ridiculous. But whatever floats your boat

I wont totally doubt it.

You contradict yourself here, you're saying it sounds ridiculous but you won't totally doubt it ? 400 years ago you would have likely said it sounds ridiculous if someone told you the Earth was round but it was true, why can it not be true be here ? Like I said it's better to keep an open mind on all ideas also you say you think to them "show yourself" and they do, if this isn't a friendly act then I don't what is, if they were truely evil like you suggest do you think they would show themselves for you ?

Originally posted by buds84What you should do is watch the full documentary of the video you posted, you might then change your mind. I have seen all the Illuminati and Secret Space DVD's from enigmatv.com...

I'm sorry but I don't really buy into the whole conspiracy theory New World Order/Illuminati concepts, while I keep an open mind that there is the possibility I have my doubts on their authenticity while being made by man. That NASA vid I posted is there to see with your own eyes it was live and not faked like some videos you can see, which I believe they are organisms and not alien built craft

Originally posted by buds84My personal opinion is that these are Alien UFO's observing and abduction/running tests on humans and they are not friendly at all, I just don't see anything friendly or playful about them.

How can you be so sure that these lights that we're seeing recently with them being a fairly new phenoma aren't a different race of aliens and are friendly not like the abducting/test running "evil" aliens ? I see alot of playful & friendly actions from them, they aren't threatening and they only show themselves when requested as I said already if they were only interesting in abducting & testing then why would they behave in the manner they currently are ?

Originally posted by buds84I always look at it from both sides and if I was in the aliens shoes, all this stuff would be just called "Work" and when people work they just want the job done so they can go home and play or rest.

Well with all that fancy tech of theirs they're sure taking a long time with running tests on us don't you think ? Hell our menial "basic" scientists can get tests done quicker than these fancy tech aliens can

Originally posted by buds84Then again I'm just ignorant to the idea because I have seen them up close and they resemble Alien spacecraft we seen allover the net and movies/tv.
Unless of course we been mistaken the whole time and these are not aliens at all but creatures that are shaped like spaceships.

Again I ask, could they not be a different type of alien (if they indeed are alien which is still up for debate) ? When you refer to Alien spacecraft we see on TV do you mean saucers ? Also if they were indeed as evil as you presume them to be then why would they allow you to get so close and not do anything to you, again it's a none threatening action. If they were evil they would have took us over a long time ago

reply to post by Discotech


Good post, right now none of us know for sure, what they are will simply be guess work.

One of the reasons we hear a lot of negativity about aliens is because of the fear of the unknown and a lot make things up.

Taking that out, I would say 50/50 chance of good or bad aliens, and I would assume any evolved alien would need to evolve by working together, and working together usually works best when everyone is good.

Evil/ good, aliens /organisms military crafts/ alien crafts are all up for debate.

Unless one of you have experienced something you want to tell us?

[edit on 4-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]

reply to post by Discotech


I said it sounds ridiculous but then I said it wouldn't doubt it, as in I would still have an open mind to the idea.
Just in case that these friendly playful space creatures that came from another galaxy that are shaped like spacecrafts came here to look at us from the sky till everyone in the world notices them actually do want to play or help us, I won't look like a ass.

If you don't buy into the whole conspiracy theory thing you shouldn't buy into the video you just posted because it comes straight from the www.enigmatv.com... DVD's
I guess you still think 9/11 was really a terrorist attack and Bush is still looking for weapons of mass destruction?
US government never lies! they tell the truth!
www.dailymotion.com...

Just because they move fast and swirl around each other randomly and "looks" playful, doesn't mean they want to be friends.
They prolly have real friends and work to do.
Thats like Humans saying "Bob cancel the weekend party, lets go play with a bunch of primitive monkeys instead." Cute idea, but normally if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

The fancy tech comment: It's said that they are a sexless race and they just keep cloning and making a Hybrid race, they can never have enough, science goes on forever, we have been running tests on lab rats for years, and we are still doing it. So there goes that comment.

what I mean by evil doesn't mean they want to take over the world, I mean they are here for there own selfish purposes.
Have you heard of anyone trying to help save rats?
If you were them and needed to harvest something from this planet, would you give a rats ass about a human?
They must have come a long way just to be friendly and playful.

I can't look at the skys with you guys tonight I have to go out with friend's but I'll keep looking at the skys while I'm out though.
fun debating with you guys on the topic,
cya later!

reply to post by buds84


Yeah cloudy in London so I can't do anything tonight too. It's good talking about this, and I hope your wrong! lol, you probably hope your wrong too, the idea of nice aliens is so much better

Just remember keep this thread updated, see ya.

Edit: oh yeah and don't forget the firewire cable keep up the good work.



[edit on 4-7-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by buds84
I said it sounds ridiculous but then I said it wouldn't doubt it, as in I would still have an open mind to the idea.
Just in case that these friendly playful space creatures that came from another galaxy that are shaped like spacecrafts came here to look at us from the sky till everyone in the world notices them actually do want to play or help us, I won't look like a ass.

I present to you the Jellyfish



en.wikipedia.org...

Jellyfish lack basic sensory organs and a brain, but their nervous systems and rhopalia allow them to perceive stimuli, such as light and odor, and respond quickly.

Many species of jellyfish are capable of congregating into large swarms or "blooms", consisting of hundreds of individuals. The formation of these blooms is a complex process that depends on ocean currents, nutrients, temperature and ambient oxygen concentrations

Now laugh all you like, but I really do see a similarity between the behavioural patterns of Jelly Fish and these lights we're seeing. With regards to the "blooms" we're currently passing through the Galactic Equator could this not be similar to an Ocean current drawing Jelly Fish to one location ?

Originally posted by buds84If you don't buy into the whole conspiracy theory thing you shouldn't buy into the video you just posted because it comes straight from the www.enigmatv.com... DVD's
I guess you still think 9/11 was really a terrorist attack and Bush is still looking for weapons of mass destruction?

US government never lies! they tell the truth!

The NASA vid was real & undoctored was it not ? I'm sure the full vid contained lots of propaganda & conspiracy theories but I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the real NASA part of the video so please don't bring conspiracy theories into this discussion. I also feel you're trying to mock my ideas somewhat which is uncalled for as I am not mocking yours, but presenting reasons for my ideas! I kindly ask you to do the same

Originally posted by buds84Just because they move fast and swirl around each other randomly and "looks" playful, doesn't mean they want to be friends.

This is where you're wrong alot of people in the research of primates do indeed "play" with said primates as a form of bonding with them for better research whilst treating them with care & respect!

Originally posted by buds84The fancy tech comment: It's said that they are a sexless race and they just keep cloning and making a Hybrid race, they can never have enough, science goes on forever, we have been running tests on lab rats for years, and we are still doing it. So there goes that comment.

Who are "they" ? It seems you are under the assumption it is just 1 race visiting us, why can't numerous races visit us ? And with regards to your tests, we have only been testing lab rats for years but these aliens have been visiting us for centuries

Originally posted by buds84what I mean by evil doesn't mean they want to take over the world, I mean they are here for there own selfish purposes.
Have you heard of anyone trying to help save rats?
If you were them and needed to harvest something from this planet, would you give a rats ass about a human?
They must have come a long way just to be friendly and playful.

No but I have heard of people wanting to save other species like Tigers, Monkeys, Whales, Birds etc

If they wanted to harvest why not put us in warehouses like we do with chickens & cows ?

I think you're putting fear where it is not neccesary, they are trying to be noticed on purpose now it seems & communicating with us also. You flash your light 3 times, they flash back 3 times, that is communication!!

clear skies for me tonight ill keep up the watch and I'll try to tape if I see anything. I just have to see if my camera can actually film dim stars. keeping you posted

Great videos cosmic! for some reason my camera cant pick these things up but I did manage to catch 2 different objects and will get them uploaded this weekend.

Im a bit gutted though as last night (thursday 3rd july) I witnessed these things and they are even braver! I kept saying in my head, if you are out there please show me, please show me your craft... come closer to me and damn a few minutes later a dim light appeared and travelled north, it then got brighter and brighter and for about 5 seconds it was brighter then venus! it then faded. As it lit right up I could notice a dark spinning triangular saucer shape. I was astonished!!

I then began to say in my mind 'thank you, thank you' and i flashed my torch 3 times and i noticed just above another star 3 lights flashing. I could make out a triangular saucer shape that was spinning and lights just flashed.... i then said in my mind 'if you are friendly please light right up and show me your craft, if you mean us no harm show me your craft from the outside' the chilling thing is i got nothing back, didnt see no more lights it just vanished into the night.

I have some videos and pictures of some other odd looking things in the sky and will upload them sometime this weekend. Been a bit tied up with my girlfriend and my little boy this week.

reply to post by _Phoenix_


In the first part of your paragraph you say that they are not satellites but then later you ask how to tell if it is satellite. Do you see the contradiction here?

Also Cosmic the new video looks just like a satellite to me about to move in an opposite direction at some points but that is because the camera is moving. Again, you should try to give better reference points if you want us to take it as credible.

buds, I am still waiting on that video.

Also someone mentioned that they arn't satellites because they wouldn't move that fast. But satellites move as fast as all these other videos being posted and the satellites are out each night. It's easy to see 3 in one sitting.

So far there is no proof here except for the video Buds uploaded of there appearing to be a cloud being formed. Other than that all the other evidence I have seen is not credible to say the least.

Two nights ago here in the centre of england, I was out in my garden at about 12. 30, a clear night sky at last, and was looking at a plane flying high overhead, but beyond this plane in the same shot through the binocs,

I saw a fast moving light, I see a lot of sats but none that move this fast, and have never seen any so far away, I mean this was way in the distance, could not see it without the binocs.

I have truly never seen any lights move this fast in the night sky.
Just one pinpoint light, no trail ot anything.
I am not saying it is not a sat, just putting my two pennies worth in for the record.

Two nights ago here in the centre of england, I was out in my garden at about 12. 30, a clear night sky at last, and was looking at a plane flying high overhead, but beyond this plane in the same shot through the binocs,

I saw a fast moving light, I see a lot of sats but none that move this fast, and have never seen any so far away, I mean this was way in the distance, could not see it without the binocs.

I have truly never seen any lights move this fast in the night sky.
Just one pinpoint light, no trail ot anything.
I am not saying it is not a sat, just putting my two pennies worth in for the record.

As a Side note to cloaking abilty,We are developing this now.Look at my post in science and tech,"cloaking tech a reality",Links to a CNN News page.Scientist has the basic idea,but have yet to construct a working prototype,but that public science.Military may already have.
So these things cloaking isnt at all sci-fi or far fetched.

reply to post by Soulstone


Don't you see movement in his latest video?

You can easily see movements in his videos by looking at other stars for reference.

For example at the start of his latest video look right at the beginning, It appears to drops down then change direction. And his other videos shows plenty of movement too.
In my opinion they are great videos, keep it up cosmic.

And when I said I don't know how to tell what a satellites looks like, I meant how big or bright it appears, I'm pretty sure I know how they move, they orbit, so I'm sure satellites don't wobble about, change directions etc.


This video is interesting, at the beginning the object the one going up, taking the star as reference, you can easily see the object go up, then suddenly change direction and go down.
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And this one, if you look at the stars for refernece at one point the object appears to wobble left to right, and at the beginning the object is traveling up, but later it appears to be travelling down.
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reply to post by justjoemusic


Hey Just there was me thinking I'd invented the 'Three Flash' torch communication lol. They really do like three flashes, a second apart. I saw a light at 4.30am Tuesday or Wednesday. I felt compelled to open the curtains and wow, a light bigger than any star out there, slowly moving across the sky.

I saw a like a star moving in the sky that lit up and changed directions and then disappeared. The one reason besides what I saw that I knew it was a ufo, Was an hour before hand I had this feeling that a UFO was on the sky which got more stronger then stopped when I saw what i did. Its those little knowing feelings that unfortunately never can be proved to anyone else but you theres no doubt its real. Interesting post,flagged and stared and welcome my friend Iv only been here a few weeks and cant seam to get off here

Originally posted by devareous
As a Side note to cloaking abilty,We are developing this now.Look at my post in science and tech,"cloaking tech a reality",Links to a CNN News page.Scientist has the basic idea,but have yet to construct a working prototype,but that public science.Military may already have.
So these things cloaking isnt at all sci-fi or far fetched.

yes this is true, they are able to make a tank disappear from view and there are new armour jackets being released for soldiers and marines that can make them disappear from view. So yeah your right about cloaking not being sci fi anymore.

Originally posted by smason202
I saw a like a star moving in the sky that lit up and changed directions and then disappeared. The one reason besides what I saw that I knew it was a ufo, Was an hour before hand I had this feeling that a UFO was on the sky which got more stronger then stopped when I saw what i did. Its those little knowing feelings that unfortunately never can be proved to anyone else but you theres no doubt its real. Interesting post,flagged and stared and welcome my friend Iv only been here a few weeks and cant seam to get off here

Thank you! I know what you mean about those feelings that there is a ufo outside I get them so strongly too!

Originally posted by ufoorbhunter
reply to post by justjoemusic

 

Hey Just there was me thinking I'd invented the 'Three Flash' torch communication lol. They really do like three flashes, a second apart. I saw a light at 4.30am Tuesday or Wednesday. I felt compelled to open the curtains and wow, a light bigger than any star out there, slowly moving across the sky.

hey u know i see this light! it shone brighter then venus !!! it started off as a small moving glow and just got brighter and brighter! im glad someone else witnessed this too!