Look around you. It’s happening!! (Beginning of UFO disclosure is now!)

Perhaps Bush is planning disclosure before his Presidency ends so he can go down with that as his legacy. Not a bad idea really...especially considering his approval numbers.

Yes it's time for disclosure and I have no doubt we are being thoroughly conditioned for a major 'disclosure' event. However I also believe it will be a grand deception to suck the world into a world religion and a world government. What better way to 'discredit' traditional religions and morals then to provide an ET surrogate.

If governments admit they were lying to us then, what makes us believe that they are telling the truth now?

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I believe that its happening too!!! (Apparently the time has come for the conditioning and acceptance that we are not alone!!! ) Well, here in Argentina we know that for a long time that. If you can read spanish I give you this page which you can see How is that we argentinians became to know The Truth. www.grupoelron.org. You may learn a lot reading this web page. Buena suerte amigo.

Federico Cabrera

WHY DO WE NEED GOVERNMENT CONFIRMATION?

My personal reality includes: Unidentified Flying Objects that
perform flight without any sound.
Crop Circles which may or may not be made by the hand of man and others.
The BIO DIVERSITY on this tiny little planet..and the vastness of the Multiverse
says to me there is LIFE and probably intelligent technological life elsewhere.

Its a stupid game they play with our permission, there are enough pictures, storys and people..who know TRAVIS WALTON has no doubt.
ET is here..and PEACEFUL if they were here and NOT..we would be finished.
Nothing to see here..time to move along. PS I WANT MY SPACESHIP in RED

I do believe they are with holding information...but the freedom of information act didnt help in some cases did it?....they are black...they smear it,cover it up,and lose it.The only way they are gonna disclose if someone far up gathers all the info(i dont believe someone can do that either,they would be leaving a papertrail)There is noway i foresee in the future them letting out info or even admitting to they have been covering up in the first place.

My god!!! I didn't think people like you still existed! What hole have you been living in the past 20 years! Wake up alienstar You can't honeslty belive were the only life in the universe!!



[edit on 22-5-2008 by Billyb3233]

Originally posted by spitefulgod
There’s no chance that an alien civilisation happen to evolve at near enough the same time as us (within a 100,000 year or so) and are close enough to get here, sure there’s life out there but I believe the time difference would be way off, we’re probably gonna be using radio signals for the next 100 years then move off, it would be similar for any other intelligent race, the communications being scanned for would be in 3 hundred years or so stints and the civilisation would probably wipe itself out after 100,000 to 1 million years anywho, if we never had the extinction of half the worlds species 65 million years ago (or whatever it was) we may have had a technological race some 40 million years ago, so it shows what time differences we are dealing with when we look at the evolution of other civilisations.

Aliens yes, more government tests being covered up yes, visitations no… IMHO

As I can see you're preaching from the textbooks, I can assure you that modern theory and commonly discussed paradigms that are being more and more accepted among top minds, ... radically out date the 1980's Sagan-esque material you're presenting here.

BUT...
I WILL SAY... that this kind of archaic thinking WILL be useful, when an "official disclosure" occurs.

At least I hope it will...
I mean this by... hopefully after you SEE advanced flying saucers and alien-looking beings... and you STILL hold steadfast to the beliefs you just stated... then you won't be able to accept that what you see is actually what you'd be told they are... "aliens"

Meaning, that they wouldn't be alien craft and they wouldn't be alien beings..
because the tried and true "proven" theory that "life is super rare in the universe" and if intelligent life exists outside earth then it's completely impossible in this infinite universe, for them to have ever gotten here, now, or even before we were here".. etc..

The next rational conclusion, according to your facts you just stated, .. the next rational conclusion would be..
that they are suppressed advanced human technology craft..
and biologically engineered or bred human-based lifeforms.. acting as props to persuade your idea of reality.

so.. yea .. to all those out there that hold the beliefs that spiteful just stated.. the ol 1980's skeptic argument... if you believe it now...

WILLl you have the CAHONAS to KEEP believing it after you're presented with the images of a saucer craft landing on the whitehouse lawn, with an alien-looking being coming out and meeting dignitaries ?

or the Olympics?

lets see if you can still hold fast to those beliefs then

for our sake.. i hope your mind is that strong.

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Why dont you take the time to go back and start out with reading my posts since the beginning before you make your judgement call.I dont have the time nor the patience to explain my case again.

[edit on 22-5-2008 by alienstar]

Perhaps we should look back into history at only a few documents and events that changed the course of mankind:

1. The 10 commandments
2. The Magna Carta
3. The Declaration of Arbroath (Scotland)
4. The U.S. Declaration of Independence (USA)
5. The Monroe Doctrine (USA)
6. The formation of the United Nations
7. The formation of the State of Israel
8. The formation of the E.U.

Other various & less known principles set to writ, one by the name of CAUS (Citizen's Against UFO Secrecy).

I can think of only one means of addressing Disclosure, and it involves the setting about a simple, concise, & short statement, that will be for the good of the Common Man. Perhaps signed by millions of human beings from every corner of the earth who sincerely believe that disclosure is the best course of action for the inhabitants of our planet.

It matters not if the governments stone wall on the matter. It is a matter of public outcry, such that we are on record as to be heard.

There must be a course of action whereby believers & advocates alike, are documented. I haven't a clue where such actions may lead, but it is long past the time where the common man of this world has the right to openly voice his or her opinion as to a matter that has been occurring for thousands of recorded years.

With the advent of PCs, we have only now opened the door to faster & more open freedom of speech on such matters that affect all of human kind. We now have millions upon millions of documents to substantiate such a program. All this being said, it would take several years to launch such an endeavour, but in my opinion, it would be worth the while.

I myself personally experienced a configuration of UFOs when I was a kid, and I will never forget the event. It has been over 44 years ago, but I can assure any & all, that I can recall every detail. I am sure all others who have experienced such an event can relate as well.

All who agree with Disclosure should work together for this common cause that will change our outlook towards our future's horizon.

How about people pop in reasons why they think you have the right to know?Maybe if you address that,you would have a easier time understanding why they wont disclose.

www.presidentialufo.com...

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I agree. Disclose is already underway. The governments of the world have had to slowly allow snippets of the truth to seemingly leak out, to avoid mass hysteria and panick.........
As for the Vatican, well, Thay have known the truth since ancient times. They forced thier religion onto billions around the world for the sake of power, and nothing else.
These entities that have been visiting here, have been doing so for many millenia, and will continue to do so. There is no stopping the truth.

Originally posted by alienstar
We are still alone in this universe cause they is no concrete proof that life exist out there.We can debate this all we want.

we will never have enough proof for skeptic people
good luck

life exists everywhere on this planet
it exists everwhere
it adapts to any environment
accept this
life is the universe
it is everywhere

[edit on 22-5-2008 by theyareoutthere]

ETs or EBEs have been here for tens of thousands of years, perhaps as long ago as 600,000 years. We as the Human Race are almost ready to meet them again publicly. In ancient civilizations around the world we knew them publicly. Beware of the Illuminati, the Alpha Draconian Reptiles and their Greys. We must learn to choose Love over Fear. The bad aliens feed on that negative energy that comes with Fear and do not like the positive energy that comes with Love.
Love each other and love the Earth. It is not too late for us to be free of this Matrix we are in. Turn off the TVs, the mind numbing, controlling devices that the media and the evil behind the media controls and conditions us with. December 21, 2012 is coming.

As was told to Alex Collier, a contactee of the Andromedans, by an Andromedan, the Love you withhold is the pain that you carry.

I definitely agree we are being conditioned to accept the presence of UFOs, but I disagree about why.

I personally believe the "aliens" are the descendants of the fallen angels from the Book of Enoch. They're probably just using ancient Atlantean technology and are prepping the world for acceptance of the NWO, headed by them of course. They'll trick us into thinking they're enlightened beings from light years away. They were the reason for the flood to begin with. It all makes sense when you take this into account:

Matthew 24:37
"As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

Well, it's just as crazy as anyone else's theory, right?

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do you have any proof of god's existence?

Well this thread started with the idea there just may be a build up to an upcoming disclosure and has degraded into the religious nut cases.

Yes we are just but a speck of sand in the enormity of the Universe being here for such a sort amount of time in the eternity of time.

Have they the powers that be been covering up the existence of ET well they have certainly been covering something up I can’t imagine an argument there.

The big problem with ET as I see it is this if they are here they are so far in advance of us it’s dangerous to us a race of beings. This is what Steven Hawking thinks and since he is one of the best brains on the planet I tend to agree.

The argument that they would be so far away they could never reach us is only valid as we thing of our technology after all in the 1860’s people thought that if you reached a speed of more than 10 mph, you would be killed.

We have seti looking for radio waves Humm, if you are a 100LY from home they are not going to be your means of communication are they. It would seam likely that just if they have arrived here they have managed to warp space in some way or other and communicate in some other technology that as yet we have not discovered.

Physics is telling us that 96% of our universe is missing 21% of that is made up of dark matter while 75% is made up of dark energy. This is also so from some of the best brains on the planet. That is a whole hell of a lot we don’t know about.

We all seam to want to know it all I know I do, but do you really think that we as a race can handle it?

Has indeed the cover up really been for our own good as a race as a whole?

If certain governments of the world have been reengineering ET’s technology they sure as hell have not been using it for the good of the human race.

Right now we have a whole lot of pain heading in our direction, just about the nicest way I can think to put it. Just may be a disclosure of some sort will stop the powers that be from being hung for the lamp posts.

I think you guys have lost your mind if you think they're going to come clean. Aliens didn't just arrive in 1947 and feel the need to show up with information like "Hey, we're here". They've been here since the beginning. We breed cows and don't go to the leader of the cows to show them that humans are real.