God is fake!

"No..... one told me too... i choose to read the bible... because it was my choice..."

"I do not believe in God"

Your choice huh... Then free will if I am assuming right. Free will means no God as I have said earlier.

You do not believe in God. Well then why do you agree with him. and stand up for him.

reply to post by whitesatan

Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes!


Explanation: whitesatan you state and I quote "Also if every human being that is real has a first an last name then what is gods last name?
There isn't one so how can we prove something fake to be real when he has three letters for a name and nothing else." 1stly its 4 letters not 3 and they are called the tetragramanton and consists of the letters J or Y, H , V and H again (ie YHVH or JHVH). 2ndly not every human that has been real has two or more names and I supply Aristotle, Plato, and Socrates as examples. Therefor according to your logic,because your logic or rational is flawed, GOD requires no last name QED.

2ndly you say and again I quote "Saying that God is the Universe is false because it was said earlier that that God was a person." so I reread the entire thread to this post of yours that I am replying to and found no such evidence (DENY IGNORANCE 1ST) if I am wrong please show me where! (this is not to say that it isn't mentioned a millionfold over the entire site. Just not in this thread! I REPEAT I'm not saying he isn't a person)Also I direct you to my 4th post to this thread (3rd post 2nd page) and in particular the 3rd paragraph from the Disclaimer. Can you refute any of my claims that I made there?

Personal Disclosure: I think you might need some Bog filler to patch you leaky arguments. Keep trying (no sarcasm intended!)

" I don't believe in God "

I did NOT say that...

I said..

" i do not have to believe in God, But I choose to "



and about free will...


God doesn't make us DO anything. we have free will. You have free will to go rob a bank or do anything you want, what you are confusing brother is free will with omnipotence.....


which means that if you are correct and say we are predetermined.. then you cannot go do whatever you want..

If God knows what we will do, we DON'T know..

but if God FORCES our every action, THEN free will is taken away.... God gives us choices.



like I said..


If I knew someone was going to do something, and they did it, yet do they know? And do they lose their free will because I know?


ofcourse not..


and OL, goodjob......


peace..

[edit on 13-5-2008 by JesusisTruth]

OmegaLogos you say God is four letters. Well I believe i see three. So if there are four then that is a lie and why would i believe anything about someone who is known for presenting false information. God is the false information if it is spelled with four random letters that you decided to make up.

How can God be a person if he is the universe. I didnt say that someone said it earlier. I said that it was said. Not meaning in the Thread. You need to quit putting words into other peoples mouth and acting like it is what was said.

Get your head out of your arrogant ass and look at the facts. God can not be proven to be real so he is unreal. Another word for unreal is fake. So when you say I am making stuff up think about the real facts. Think about how god could be real if he is fake. I dont know how something unreal can be real.

You are not your so called God though. You may think you know what someone is going to do but you don't. If our life is predetermined then our choices our not ours any more. They are Gods and your so called God is leading us to believe they are ours. Therefore if we have free will then there can be no God because it is said that our life is predetermined which takes away our free will.

Look at it from the angle of someone who looks at the world not someone who is in their own world believeing what people make him believe.

" God cannot be proven to be real, so he is unreal "

:shk: good greif... have you learned anything?


I say..


" God cannot be proven to be unreal, so he IS real '


you see it works both ways... and this like I keep saying over and over, is where openmindedness comes in...

and athiest, please, I know you read this to see if your fellow athiest can win this argument, learn a lesson from him and keep an open mind...


He is a soul of Christ, God bless his heart but the non openmindedness is unbelievable..


he said at first..


" i am not trying to prove God is false "


then he said..


" God is false and cannot be proven real, so he is unreal "

how can those two qoutes not contradict each other..?

bless his heart... why do souls do this?

If you are reading this thread feel free to have some input on the situation. Anything can help the argument on both sides.

How can something be real when it is unreal.

" i am not trying to prove God is false "

" God is false and cannot be proven real, so he is unreal " is supposed to say fake not false. Get over the typos. Now you are desperate.

I was not proving that God is false I was proving that there is no way that he could be real. False is referring to the information you think you know about him.

" Bleiving what people make him believe "

you don't get it do you? have you read anything I said.. Noone makes me believe anything, It is my choice..

you sound like a fellow poster here called lilblam, all brains, no sense, no listening ability, doesn't read what people actually say....



If God knows what is going to happen, that does NOT take away free will... because you have the will to do what you want to...

like I said, you shouldn't live life trying to figure out what God knows because you don't, and you should live life making your own choices..


and the instance I gave was fro a standpoint of confidence....


If I knew someone was going to do something and they did, it does not take away our wills.

God is an observer... there is no time with him... if he wasn't perfect he would not be able to see the future..


peace.

" get over your typos "

what? you have made some too in this thread.. btw false is basically the same thing as fake..

I read what you say and I know that it is all false.

You need to admit that I have you beat because you are becoming desperate. Taking shots at me instead of talking about the topic. You may have realized some truth to my argument.

I am not putting word into your mouth.

i meant my typos.

Once again you are taking shots at me instead off talking about the topic.

" i was not proving God was false, I was trying to prove that there was no way he could be real "

Got you.... on this one..


and I qoute..

" since GOD IS NOT REAL "

" GOD IS FAKE "

Ok if your motivation was from a sincere perspective, then why the sureness in your arrogant qoutes???



if you were trying to prove that God was not real, you would of never said those things which show your non openmindedness and furthermore you would ask questions....


it's amazing..

reply to post by whitesatan

Discalimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes!

Explanation: 1stly Seek and you shall find (I offer you my Bog filler tin of wiki article here!) [I apologize as I misspelled Tetragrammaton] . So am I right? or am I RIGHT! 4 letters not 3 and Tetra means 4! and you didn't refute the three blokes with one name.....leading me to think and feel I nailed this one. (I'm not in this to get one over you or anyone else but I will blow my own horn as no-one else might lol) DENY IGNORANCE 1st

2ndly Please try and provide information contained in the thread or please post a link to external information as it helps get things straight and prevents cross contamination of threads or flammable misunderstandings IMHO anyway.

Personal Disclosure: Where is your Proof refuting my statements about GODs OMNI states? I await patiently. BTW my head may be up my Expletive Deleted but it sure as hell is GOD also via the Quality of Omnipresence so I'm already in good company. Care to refute?

False - not true or correct.
Fake - to pretend.

Wow real simialar. NOT

Learn your definitions. Then tell me two word are closely related.

Fake can also mean to trick or deceive

I was not taking shots at you.... you have done that to me in here too..

tell me how this..


" what? you have made typos too in this thread "

tell me how that is a shot?


basically I didn't realize that you made the typo.. that was my bad..


" you see truth in my argument "





n. o. t..

OmegaLogos wow you were right God is spelled with four letters. I must be retarded because I only see three. Quit being retarded. Read the Thread and you will find partly where I get my information. I know you haven't read the Thread because you are asking me where i get my information which leads me to believe you have no idea of about half the stuff that was said. Once again read the thread and you will find out where I get some of my information.

Just admit defeat and take it like a man.