John Titor Prediction 2008 Olympics in China Cancelled - Comes True?

This is interesting.

WASHINGTON - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday called on President Bush to stay away from the Olympics opening ceremonies in Beijing, a fresh sign that politics, not sports, may take center stage at the summer games.

news.yahoo.com...

reply to post by kleverone

Yes good post, curiouser and curiouser eh?


It may seem far-fetched to general public now that the possibility of the Olympics can be cancelled, but consider this: Bookmakers, sportsbetting and other gambling odd-makers have made odds for various things in the past, such as presidential elections etc. They have been fairly accurate, if there is one existing on the possibility of the 2008 Olympics being cancelled, I'm sure that the odds would be going up, not down, in our future.



[edit on 7-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

Take a look at this...He does say that its a 5110 in this chat log on this first site..

But then on his site and others its the 5100...Is this an Idiotic mistake on his behalf that could disprove the whole thing or is it just a spelling error??
Take a look and see for yourselves..


site 1 with chat log...www.anomalies.net...
Site 2..www.johntitor.com...

Checked out the Official Beijing 2008 Olympics Website and found a press release addressing (sort of) the demonstrations, protests that have taken place on the torch route:

((Annotation made by me))

There have been attempts made to disturb and sabotage the Torch Relay by a small number of "pro-Tibet independence" activists.

The Olympic Torch Relay embodies the Olympic spirit and represents the earnestness and excitement with which the world awaits the Olympic Games. A small number of "pro-Tibet independence" activists have attempted to sabotage the event. During the Greece leg of the relay, a few activists attempted to stop the relay by lying on the street.

In London, a few protesters planned and carried out several destructive actions. One "pro-Tibet independence" activist tried to grab the torch and another attempted to extinguish the flame when well-known U.K. television presenter Konnie Huq was carrying the torch in northwest London.

Their actions were stopped by local police, although Konnie Huq sustained a slight injury. During a lunch break, several "pro-Tibet independence" activists got past security in an attempt to clash with torchbearers and disturb the relay. The British police were successful in preventing these efforts.

Local people in London strongly opposed the attempt to sabotage the Torch Relay. And the behavior of pro-Tibet independence activists has aroused resentment and received condemnation in London.

As the highest symbol of the Olympic spirit, the Olympic flame represents peace, friendship and progress. Under the authorization of the International Olympic Committee, the Beijing Olympic Torch Relay is sharing the passion and glory of the Olympics with the world through its "Journey of Harmony." It has received a warm welcome from people throughout the Relay.

We strongly condemn the actions of the few "pro-Tibet independence" activists who have attempted to sabotage the Olympic Torch Relay. The Olympic flame belongs to the world and these actions are a serious violation of the Olympic spirit. They are bound to fail and will surely arouse the resentment of peace-loving people who support the Olympic Games.

The Beijing 2008 Olympic Games is not only a great event for the Chinese people, but also a great event for the world. It is important in spreading the Olympic spirit, promoting Olympic culture and furthering the development of the Olympic Games.

The Beijing Olympic Games not only enhances China's understanding of the world, but it also enhances the world's understanding of China. It deepens the friendship between countries, promoting peace, development and cooperation around the world.

torchrelay.beijing2008.cn...

Propaganda?

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Now I’m not a big believer in any of this but I have been thinking about time travel.
If I went back to April of 2004 and spoke to the red sox and said "guys don't worry, your going to sweep the World Series"
Would they still do it?
If I went back to 1986 and told good old bill bucker that he was going to miss an easy ground ball costing the red sox to lose in game 6 would he still miss that catch?
By telling some one their future does that mean they can change it?

And what about the grandfather paradox? Are we too assuming that his time machine doesn't create that effect?

I've been following the Titor story for several years now, and there are a few things I've always questioned:

1. I understand the need for the IBM 5100, but why would an advanced U.S. government with the ability to travel through time need to actually travel back to get the 5100? If the know-how and knowledge was there in the 70's to build it in the first place, couldn't Titor's future government just build a new one? Can anyone reasonably believe that a government with the ability to build a time machine couldn't build a computer with the capabilities of a 70 year old machine?

2. If Titor was on such an important mission, how did he have so much time to post to an online forum? I'd think he'd be in and out (of our time) as quickly as possible. You may say, "well, it took him a while to find an IBM 5100". If that's the case, wouldn't he be traveling from place to place in search of one? If so, he'd be logging on from different computers. Did any forum moderators ever check his IP to see where he was posting from?

3. Why didn't Titor just travel back to the time when the 5100 was produced? Why 1999?

4. Titor described that he wasn't actually traveling through time, but merely jumping different timelines. He also stated that he wouldn't return to his own timeline but to a nearly identical one. If that is the case, then why would Titor's original government even bother sending him for the 5100, knowing he wouldn't be returning to there timeline; thus making his mission useless?

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Quantum physics can give us some insight perhaps, one of the spooky things is it says that if you look at a particle, it will do something different than if you did not look at the particle.

However, how do you know what the particle did without looking at it, so we don't necessarily know exactly what that unobserved particle would have done, since we can't look it (or we affect it).

I think this applies to time travel too. BTW for those that think we're talking fantasy when we say 'time travel', it isn't fantasy, many believe we will have this technology before the century is out, perhaps even by 2050. Here's one:
www.physorg.com...

It seems like crazy talk when we talk about time travel don't it, but in fact we're working on it commercially, academically and militarily.

Ya know, I find myself believing this story. I don't have a shred of proof; not one iota.

Something about the explanation of multiple dimensions and when you travel back in time you don't necessarily travel back in your dimensional slice of time..........sounds plausible and reasonable. Again, who knows? I sure don't, nor do I have the educational background to argue the finer points of time travel theory.

Then again, if his mission was successful, wouldn't that dictate that his version of the future would not come true? Only if he was unsuccessful would something like his version, his dimension of time come true and even then not necessarily a carbon copy. Correct?

/scratches head

Clinton tells Bush to boycott Olympics ceremony

Clinton, who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, released the following statement through her campaign Monday:

The violent clashes in Tibet and the failure of the Chinese government to use its full leverage with Sudan to stop the genocide in Darfur are opportunities for Presidential leadership. These events underscore why I believe the Bush administration has been wrong to downplay human rights in its policy towards China. At this time, and in light of recent events, I believe President Bush should not plan on attending the opening ceremonies in Beijing, absent major changes by the Chinese government.

I encourage the Chinese to take advantage of this moment as an opportunity to live up to universal human aspirations of respect for human rights and unity, ideals that the Olympic games have come to represent.

Americans will stand strong in support of freedom of religious and political expression and human rights. Americans will also stand strong and root for the success of American athletes who have worked hard and earned the right to compete in the Olympic Games of 2008.

Getting interesting...

reply to post by xfosterXchaunx


The grandfather Paradox:

“The Grandfather Paradox [where you go back in time and kill your grandfather] is not an issue,” said Mallett. “In a sense, time travel means that you’re traveling both in time and into other universes. If you go back into the past, you’ll go into another universe. As soon as you arrive at the past, you’re making a choice and there’ll be a split. Our universe will not be affected by what you do in your visit to the past.”

Titor was a hoax, read the book "alas babylon"

This is an excellent research area, and its here at ATS.com, an archive of John Titor:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Make sure to check the other pages in the archive as well.

Speaking of prediction and oddsmakers betting on whether or not the Olympics will by cancelled or boycotted, found some info in regards to this.





I can't make this stuff up, this isn't me photoshopping lol

This is a place that you can buy a 'commodity' of a prediction in REAL money, betting or hedging on the price to increase or decrease, just like a stock.

Bid and ask prices are similar to buy and sell, so that if the BID trends UPWARDS, this means that people in general are INCREASING their perceptions of a price increase, or in this case the prediction occurring. The opposite is true if the ASK price goes up.

Notice the graph trends of bid price is trending UP, and the volume as well..

Interesting eh?

[edit on 7-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

So what it basically boils down to is that Titor is right sometimes, and he's wrong sometimes. Hey, just like me. Except that when he gets things wrong it's because the timeline shifted. Good excuse.

I've generally found that as a rule of thumb the more the supporters have to twist and turn their interpretations to fit the predictions, the more likely they're all hogwash.

In any event, apparently Titor was a lousy Time Cop, because he hasn't turned up again since. Oh, that's right. The timeline shifted again.

reply to post by battlestargalactica


If hes from the future wouldn't they have the technology to build the same IBM computer with the same "Unique" feature... Why would they waste their time building a space machine and time traveling when they could of just built a simple computer we built in the 70's?



He didn't predict no Olympics in China in 08 he predicted no Olympics after 04. Its all on how you take it. Eery yes. accurate prediction no.

Originally posted by Praafit
If hes from the future wouldn't they have the technology to build the same IBM computer with the same "Unique" feature... Why would they waste their time building a space machine and time traveling when they could of just built a simple computer we built in the 70's?

Apparently not. Apparently every machine capable of reading the specific IBM machine code (or UNIX precursor, or whatever), was completely destroyed in the big War, or the related events. However, vintage Corvettes managed to make it through the turmoil essentially unscathed.

Well, we'll just have to find another time traveler who can provide information that can verify Titor's story. He can't have been the only one. His mission was pretty mundane. Certainly, there are time travelers who are working on much more important things than collecting an old computer (of which there are still plenty to be found, so why travel back farther than you have to to get one?).

Oh, so many logical contradictions...

reply to post by battlestargalactica


I found it odd that in the image you posted, "announce" was spelled "accounce" twice. The urls don't work either. Where did you get those images?

NOT __ GONNA__ HAPPEN

First, virtually every corporation in the world is shackled to China's manufacturing capabilities.

There is no way - Target, Home depot, Walmart, Sears, Gap, 99 cent stores and a thousand other global companies are gonna let America pull the plug on the Olympic's --- Officially

You're gonna boycot the Olympics 4 months before (Christmas) the biggest retail windfall in history!! Try telling this to your screaming kids walking the empty isle's of Kids R Us!

With China's 1.3 billion potential consumers, (A.V.C.) American Vulture Capitolists and even the man himself... Ronald McDonald are salivating at the chance of post Olympic business opportunites in China... And would throw their own mothers from a train before they let the games flop.

China has way to much power, & way too many U.S. dollars to throw back in our faces!

America has outsourced everything to China, next they'll be manufacturing our 'American Pies.'

This boycott scare was whipped up to dupe the American public into THINKING this goverment is compassionate on human rights issues.... Please!

It doesn't make one difference about the Titor prediction or if the Shot Put team walks out, because it's all about money!

But the real story is... and you will never hear this on CNN or FOX..
"Behind any boycott, US Corporations will be running hand & hand with the P.R.C. --- business as usual!"

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reply to post by yuefo

URL's don't work within images, it is a screen capture of the website intrade.
Good catch on the 'accounce' instead of 'announce', didn't see that, but just a typo likely.


[edit on 7-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

Sometimes you just have to wait instead of act. A lot of what John Titor has said has come to pass with no truth and some are coming close, but is the Olympics canceled yet? NO! Will it be canceled? Well let's wait and see, and let's see if a revolution starts and all the other predictions that was stated by John. And I guess that a good answer to any wrong predictions would be " Well if they have time machines then they changed what was supposed to happen." I still have an open mind but if you're gonna predict something then predict it 100%.