John Titor Prediction 2008 Olympics in China Cancelled - Comes True?

reply to post by Roland Deschain


I'm just starting The Dark Tower VII. I'm sure to be in for a hell of a ride, I really don't want to start reading it, because then I won't put it down and it'll be over too quickly. Anyways, can't wait to see how it all ends.

On topic: I'd have to see exactly what he posted again, but was there something about a summer Olympics in there? Anyways, I'm sure Titor is a fraud, but he's the best and most entertaining I've ever read. I'd take a well thought out and executed hoax like that any day.

Originally posted by Roland Deschain
To link the Olympics being canceled in 08 with Titors prediction of no more Olympics after 04 is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

Shouldn't we at least wait and see if the 08 Olympics are even canceled before we start jumping to conclusions like this?

Maybe you did not read the thread title, it says "John Titor Prediction 2008 Olympics in China Cancelled - Comes True?

See the "?"

This thread is about the discussion of the possibility of the Olympics being cancelled and if so, how would perceptions change/not change as a result.

Wish people would use their cognitive skills more, read the entire thread instead of pressing that "post reply" button at the top of 'page1'. :shk:

[edit on 10-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

reply to post by battlestargalactica


I read the whole OP. I still stand by what I said. If you want to speculate such outrageous claims then you should post it in Skunk Works. There's no conspiracy here.

You're reachin'..........

[edit on 10-4-2008 by Roland Deschain]

Originally posted by Enrikez
Actually Mike, meeting yourself on a divergent timeline is not really meeting yourself.

Not only is meeting a version yourself possible (if you know where to look) it is probable, depending on how divergent that particular universe is. The divergent universe theory states that yes you can meet yourself at a younger age, perhaps that version has glasses, or perhaps has a mohawk instead of a crewcut when 'you' were that age.

You could even kill 'yourself' (your parallel universe self) and it would not affect anything in our original universe. Likewise, killing Adolf Hitler before he comes to power will prevent Hitler from causing WWII in that universe, but nothing would change in our ours!

So, how can we change our universe based on the divergent universe theory?
Either someone ELSE travels to our timeline and changes something (we wouldn't know it), or we somehow get lucky, and travel within our own timelime and change it.

reply to post by battlestargalactica


That is exactly my point. Titor claimed that there is no danger of changing the future for time travelers, because of this.

I am also in agreement that meeting yourself or having the ability to is highly probable.

WOW - o WOW

IOC is censoring the athletes now, like this is Communist China:

Athletes who 'speak out' against China on the Tibet issue may be BANNED from the games?!

The report says if athletes display a Tibeten flag, they may be:

Athletes who display Tibetan flags at Olympic venues — including in their own rooms — could be expelled from this summer’s Games in Beijing under anti-propaganda rules.

This is the future of police state in action ladies and gents.

The question of what will constitute propaganda when the Games are on in August and what will be considered opinion under IOC rules is one vexing many in the Olympic movement. The Olympic Charter bans any kind of “demonstration or political, religious or racial propaganda” in any Olympic venue or area.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

British athletes — originally told that they could not comment on “politically sensitive issues” before the edict was hastily retracted by British Olympic chiefs accused of gagging free speech — have asked for further clarification.

All I know about Titor is that when I asked him about the price of gold in his time while he was open and accepting questions, he dodged the question and then ended it with people from his time didn't like people from our time. Any good time traveler learns about the economics of the time he is traveling to, so he can be prepared with the correct currency. I'm sure even time travelers get hungry on occasion.

The price of gold is a good economic indicator of the value of the American dollar. When gold prices go up and the value of the USD (United States dollar) goes down.

Wouldn't it be something if the price of gasoline triggered a civil war in the USA because people simply couldn't afford to purchase basic goods and services anymore. The independent truckers would be blamed, of course. A bogus Gulf of Tonkin type of incident at the local truck stop and boom! It's Civil War 21st century style. Oh, those shadow guv'ment boys are so tricky.

When a cup and half of cashews costs five dollars at the Walmart in Clinton, MS, (like it did yesterday) is it time to load the weapons? Or when gasoline goes over $4 a gallon? Just kidding. Just kidding. I'll just quit buying cashews, that's all.

I am making it a point to learn survival skills of living off the land from what I am seeing with the price of basic goods and services (I aced Financial Economics in high school and can read trends very well.) What I see happening in the markets (both NYSE and the local stores) has me concerned about a serious inflation issue within five to ten years. All you young folks (younger than 40 years old and non-land owners and in debt up to your eyeballs) are going to live through some really tough times IMHO.

reply to post by Mogget


Here, here!
I'm willing to bet that the opportunity was bought some how.

It ain't over till the Fat lady sings and With that in mind keep and eye out or what happens in Lhasa when the torch arrives there. Bloodbath? I hope not.

I find some similarities with this Titor case and the Back To The Future movies.
He did travel in a car, backwards and forwards, in time. On one of McSorley's trips, time or events were 'altered.'
It seems plausible that there could be Timecops dancing in and out of time. And that future appears to be only 1/4 of a century away, if one were to accept what John Titor has to say, as true.
I believe what was presented in the Philadelphia Experiment has a similarity to the concept of the egg-shaped vortex that is created around the experimental 'device,' whether it be a car, or an old destroyer.
I think it was claimed somewhere, once, that the Navy has such a device that could envelop an aircraft carrier. The Final Countdown does have something like that occurring.
After reading much of Titor's responses, I conclude that he believes that what he has said is true.
Today the news headlines concern rebellion against crackdowns on human rights. The Olympics do indeed appear to be in jeopardy, for 2008.

China posts video of riots in a Chiinese city by Tibetans.
www.reuters.com...

About the John Titor story:

I believe the technology to be plausible, and if it does exist, it has existed for far longer than the possibly fictional character John Titor claims.

I also believe that the people at strategicbrains.com are a bunch of losers who work for the same world government that has put hitlers islamic ideology into the hands of the elite and government structures of the USA in order to enflame the asian world and then pull back abruptly and leave the floodgates open for an all-out war on Europe, this being conducted IN CONJUNCTION WITH Russia and China, and against all other superpowers which are democratic, like India and Israel.

The preposterous suggestion that anyone who excersizes their rights to keep and bear arms, and stockpile a little (a mere tens of thousands of rounds per person total) along with food and other means of self-support as is only prudent in times of war as well as peace, should be automatically working with the terrorists as they suggest, and no doubt are labeled as such by the successive governments of the respective countrys of the world, but nonetheless strategicbrains seem to be focused on tricking people out of these sensibilities with total disregard for the fact that most of the people who do so, are actually planning FOR the support of the government, the nation and the people, in case of emergency or internal unrest.

Only two generations ago, there was no Turkey and no Pakistan to aid terrorism, it was british and Indian territory, all of it. Then suddenly the onslaught of communism set in. Who created it to divide the western world? I think you know the answer. But even the religions of the world are created by another sinister power lurking in the shadows, to divide and conquer. No matter what "side" wins, ordinary people all over the world will pay with their lives and their enslavement, though they are already enslaved by the monetary system of debt of the world today, but I find the other way of enslavement to be worse, in that they will breed people ACTIVELY to create a sickly and weak stupid and small race, a slave caste, and a tall "ARYAN" race, whatever that may mean as even arabs now seem to consider themselves aryan, thanks hitler..., instead of just pushing people into unsatisfactory breeding and increasing stupor as is the current situation today.


EDIT: I would like to add that I still believe there to be a GOD in control of the world, but not in control of the peoples of the world, nevertheless, I can also sense another belief just outside my reach at this point, but I feel like it may all be a charade put in place and that the real truth is the cycles of the oscillation through the dark rift orouboros, and all the destruction that comes with it, because I can not at this point see how this process of destruction can ever be stopped. It is entirely possible though, that GOD is even greater than we could ever have imagined, and that these cycles are also part of the plan, but how it is to be stopped I know not.

A big problem for me is Solomo. But in time I will figure it out.

(P.S.: John Titors insignia just straight forward means time journey.)

[edit on 11-4-2008 by Rocambole]

It's been awhile since I researched John Titor, but back then, under a different name, I tried to debunk the Titor case. I don't remember the exact fact's, because it's been awhile and I've moved onto better thing's. However, I remember in my investigation, I tried to track down the real John Titor (who would've only been two years old at the time). No real John Titor turned up in my investigation. So, my second idea was to track down his father whose name was never really given. However, there was no sign of a Mr. Titor who had a son named John (alive or deceased).

That was the closest I got to debunking the Titor case, however, I was younger back then. In reality, there's a chance that he didn't post under his real name. I didn't consider that back then.

Anyway, I still believe that John Titor was a hoax. I don't believe that he was a time travelor. I better stop reading this thread, because I'm starting to think that maybe it's time to do a second, more organized, investigation.

reply to post by Enrikez


That's the point I wanted to make! You can probably meet yourself but in a different dimension/time line. I am unaware if Titor mentioned meeting himself in a different time line!

Anyway, as you mentioned, divergent time lines could have extremely narrow differences. And that is why I said earlier that the Olympics may be beset with problems but may not be canceled after all. (They may have been canceled in another time line of Titor's).

Cheers!

the only thing i dont agree with in this thread is that the people who are chiefly in charge of putting on the Olympics are extremely resilient in their belief that the "Olympics" are a means of uniting and promoting sportsmanship like conduct between people of different beliefs and governments. there have been many times in the past where the olympics have been threatened. for instance when the olympics were held in Finland in 1952 i believe. A lot of cold war/WW2 delema was going on there, between Germany, Russia and the USA, but it went on successfully. and that just justifies the olympic committee in their thought that the olympics can be a uniting event for nations where they can compete and be "friendly"

So i feel they these olympics will be pushed way beyond safe measures. even though there is a very high risk of something going very wrong, it will be pushed. with the hopes it will go smoothly and that the olympic committee can once again say...these nations who disagree with each other came together for a sporting event and forgot their problems in the name of sport.

I remember the last olympics everyone was all cheery over iraq's soccer team having a good showing. Almost trying to promote that they are doing so good now and that they have nver bee nthis good of a soccer team and that maybee the US (from US media) has had some part in bringing this successful soccer playing about. HAHA

But the olympics have gotten lucky a few times but once something happens then they might consider a new outlook on how they conduct these olympics. it is getting pretty risky.

I saw this on the bbc website and thought it might intrest you all.

China 'foils Olympic terror plot' news.bbc.co.uk...

I find it hard to believe that a few hundred protesters are going to stop a HUGE money maker like the Olympics no matter what country sponsors it. With China pretty much owning America at this time because of all the debt notes she has on the USA, it seems to me the USA would do everything it could to see to it the Olympics go on as planned. Where's the shadow guv'ment boys when you need them?

reply to post by battlestargalactica



Whether you agree or not, the winter Olympics are classed as the Olympics but in er.. winter.

Id like also for you show me one prediction he has made that has come true.

Honestly, its a cop out titor saying that different time-lines have different events. If that's true how did he appear in ours? And if he did he would certainly have mentioned Sept 11, wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and other major events.

Lastly and most importantly, unless timetravel is wildly known in his time, the last thing a TT would do is go on to a forum to tell us about our future (which he has been wrong about, oh i forgot different timelines!).

As if he would be allowed to do that.

I saw this in the USA Today newspaper: www.usatoday.com...

I thought I'd share, because it reminded me of this thread. Seems like a lot of the sponsor's don't want anything to do with the Olympics right now either (although some of them like Coca-Cola are still onboard).

Darby #5 October 18th, 2005 11:37 pm

Jason Bellows said: "Thinking on how to test a theory against who is Tutor might be to log all the times that Titor posted, and create a timeline of activity. Comparing that timeline to the known activities of prospects could serve to eliminate some suspects.

Still thinking on other testing methods."

We actually have done this - about two years ago. On Anomalies.net we charted his posts, looked closely at who was posting just before and just after he posted as "TimeTravel_0" on www.timetravelinstitute.com and as "John Titor" on Art Bell's old Post-2-Post BBS. We found no correltation. We also did some statistical work on his linguistics…and found some interesting correlations. But not concrete enough. We're pretty sure about who Titor is. Actually we're pretty sure about two members of Group Titor and a bit less sure about a third member of the Group. Yes, it was a group effort. "Boomer" was the main author but there were other people who helped with the creative effort.

Who might Titor be? Well, a good question to get the ball rolling might be, "Why would a time traveler's family hire an well known entertainment industry lawyer, who puts movie deals together, to be their attorney for the John Titor Foundation, LLC (Florida)? Another question might be, "How coincidental is it that the owner/SysAdmin of Time Travel Institute (where Titor first posted) was simultaneously the SysAdmin for Celebration, Florida's community BBS (www.34747.net)…and then how coincidental is it that The Attorney and the John Titor Foundation are both located in Celebration, Florida? And to top it all off, how coincidental is it that The Attorney and the Foundation share a common address with a movie studio, advertising agency, graphic arts studio and sound studio (VISI Corp/Apple Productions/Front St. Productions)?"

BTW: The SysAdmin for both sites is clean in this. He isn't Titor and isn't a part of the Titor Story. He had a hotlink to every one of his various sites on the Celebration site…and that included a link to the TTI site.

Titor's physics was interesting but it was strictly sci-fi. In one post I couldn't list all of the hundreds (literally) "problems" (unphysicality is more appropriate) that he had with the science end. I don't think that it ws coincidental that when David Trott, PhD (astrophysics and astronomy) started asking him very specific physics questions on Art Bell's site that Titor immediately decided that one of the two "windows" for his departure was open. He left rather quickly.

(Just a note: Dave Trott was a PhD candidate when Titor was posting. He received his PhD a year or so later.)
Quote this »