Google Earth Keeping Planet X a Secret!

Originally posted by mageofzhalfir
reply to post by zorgon

 

Well...it's supposed to be a brown dwarf, you know. And we are spotting those in OTHER star systems, so it's very difficult for me to believe we couldn't see it our own.

Better than that, we are identifying molecules in other star systems (Methane, Amino Acids etc) so yeah, a planet/dwarf star should be too much of a stretch.

Originally posted by VIKINGANT
so yeah, a planet/dwarf star should be too much of a stretch.

Really?

""Brown dwarfs are lurking all around us," said Peter Eisenhardt, project scientist for the mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

"We believe there are more brown dwarfs than stars in the nearby universe, but we haven't found many of them because they are too faint in visible light," Eisenhardt said in a NASA statement issued late Friday.

No matter what you need light to see em

reply to post by zorgon


A brown dwarf would put off a ton of heat, much in the same way Jupiter does, only on a much bigger scale. I think we should be able to see Nibiru in infrared if it exists at all.

We can't.

Originally posted by Combatmed1
"Readers and users should be aware that extreme theories without corroboration are embraced in this forum."

Need I say more on the subject of proof? All I know is that an ancient civilization (and a few newer ones) believed in this thing.....These are the people who's engineering know how was far more advanced than our own....If they believed that this Death Star (hehehehehehehe) existed then I am inclined to give it due thought....

There is however other slight problems faced by science that can be explained by this being a binary star system....Case in point the perturbation of Neptune....Pluto doesn't have sufficient mass to do this.....So what is doing it.....Also the recent problems with the satellites....I guess we will just have to wait and let time take its course to see if its true or a load of horse s#@$.

I agree with most of what you said..Although I have no idea why so many people keep saying that the engineering of some of the past civilizations was so much more advanced than our own.......I can't remember the last time anyone on the planet has assembled a non stop workforce of at least 30,000 (some people say many times that number) to build any one feature in any one place.

Originally posted by zorgon

""Brown dwarfs are lurking all around us," said Peter Eisenhardt, project scientist for the mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

"We believe there are more brown dwarfs than stars in the nearby universe, but we haven't found many of them because they are too faint in visible light," Eisenhardt said in a NASA statement issued late Friday.

No matter what you need light to see em

First, your quote states "nearby universe" not nearby solar system. Big difference. If the dwarf in question existed the scientist would have a fair idea as to where it 'might' be so could narrow down the search fo any light/heat/radio or other emitions. After all, if the average joe can locate it with free to public google sky then the guys who get paid the big bucks sould be able to find it with their multimillion dollars toys?!?! Hmmm?

Second, if you look at my whole post, how much light or energy would an amino acid molecule emit?

reply to post by VIKINGANT


I have already proclaimed myself incorrect earlier.
What more do you want!?

reply to post by xnibirux


Sorry, must have missed it.
Its funny though, by your responces it would seem I am the only non nibiruist on this thread.
I am however very interested on your thoughts on my post on page 4 though. Here or U2U its up to you.

While I didn't read through all 4 pages of thread my question would be and perhaps it was already asked. If this satellite could pick up this planet X wouldn't amateur astronomers be able to see it as well?

Imagine the buzz it would create if it were close enough to pick up by a regular telescope. How could one keep that a secret even if the gov tries to cover it up.

I think that will eventually be our proof if it ever happens, is that one day we are going to have 100 plus amateur astronomers finding this thing as it moves closer to our planet.

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reply to post by DDay


That would be great to see. I can't wait for the day. Many people think I am one of the many Anti Nibiruists but I am not. I am Anti the lack of substance with regards to Nibiru srories.

Originally posted by Stumpy1

Originally posted by Combatmed1
"Readers and users should be aware that extreme theories without corroboration are embraced in this forum."

Need I say more on the subject of proof? All I know is that an ancient civilization (and a few newer ones) believed in this thing.....These are the people who's engineering know how was far more advanced than our own....If they believed that this Death Star (hehehehehehehe) existed then I am inclined to give it due thought....

There is however other slight problems faced by science that can be explained by this being a binary star system....Case in point the perturbation of Neptune....Pluto doesn't have sufficient mass to do this.....So what is doing it.....Also the recent problems with the satellites....I guess we will just have to wait and let time take its course to see if its true or a load of horse s#@$.

I agree with most of what you said..Although I have no idea why so many people keep saying that the engineering of some of the past civilizations was so much more advanced than our own.......I can't remember the last time anyone on the planet has assembled a non stop workforce of at least 30,000 (some people say many times that number) to build any one feature in any one place.

Please take this into consideration.....We cannot rebuild the pyramids in the same fashion that they were built.....The trees and stone used to build Solomons temple were hewn at the logging site and the stone cut to fit at the quarry...Yet each block fit seamlessly in its respectful place....We truly have forgotten more than we would like to believe.

reply to post by VIKINGANT

Is it an intentionally misleading or joke thread?

It is neither misleading, nor is it a joke thread. I have already been proven wrong on this particular subject and am surprised the thread hasn't been closed yet

What about all the other Nibiru is FACT threads?

They shouldn't be considered FACT, it is a theory and should be looked at as one (another reason why I used the word 'supposedly').

When I see a pic of a large planet like object I will accept it, but a pic of stars with a void is a bit if a stretch.

That is the core liability of humanity in 3rd dimensional perception, two eyes, but no third.


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reply to post by xnibirux


I was not confused by your original comment and understand celestial mechanics and orbits. What I would like to know is how much you and others know about such processes. How is it that Planet X/Nibiru has several orbits or one widely erratic orbit? These orbits appear to suit the needs of the believers when asked such questions about its location.

Does the OP or anyone else have any information or links concerning the possiblity of Nibiru being located in the direction of Orion or Orion's belt? There was some discussion on Scott Creighton's forum about this, because if it is the case, there are huge connotations - the obvious one being that the Giza Pyramids signify Orion's Belt in their layout, therefore Nibiru residing by Orion would suggest that the Ancients were telling us precisely from where (and possibly even when) Nibiru would arrive.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned. Didn't have time to read the many pages of this thread.

Originally posted by geologist

I was not confused by your original comment and understand celestial mechanics and orbits. What I would like to know is how much you and others know about such processes. How is it that Planet X/Nibiru has several orbits or one widely erratic orbit? These orbits appear to suit the needs of the believers when asked such questions about its location.

It doesn't have several orbits, just one. I don't change my story to better suit my needs if that is what you believe, I just need to clear that up.

Originally posted by Cythraul

Does the OP or anyone else have any information or links concerning the possiblity of Nibiru being located in the direction of Orion or Orion's belt?

I don't believe Orion is the location of Nibiru as of now, however it does traverse into that area of the galaxy. This being mentioned in this series if you're interested, thanks

Originally posted by xnibirux

I don't believe Orion is the location of Nibiru as of now, however it does traverse into that area of the galaxy.

So after all that, Google Sky hasn't blanked out that area of Orion to prevent those incapable of looking at the night sky themselves from seeing Nibiru - as you contended at the start of this thread?

reply to post by xnibirux


xniburux, when you said that 'planet X' traverses that part of the galaxy, 'that part' referring to the constellation Orion...WOW! You do know, don't you, that the Galaxy is three-dimensional? When we see a constellation, from our little vantage point in our suburb of a spiral arm, we see stars that are at various distances, but seem to form a 'pattern' because we humans evolved to see patterns, even when they don't exist.

We see clouds that look like bunnies...or horses....or a Rorscharch inkblot!!! Somebody sold a cornflake on E-Bay because it resembled the state of Illinois! THAT is madness.....

Back to my point...the stars we observe every night are in constant motion, you know that, right? As is the Sol System, it is moving about something like 10,000 mph. BUT, due to the incredible distance, these relative motions cannot be detected within one person's lifespan, nor even during the very small slice of time that we call recorded human history.

This apparent lack of motion, even though everything is moving very rapidly, is due to the tremendous distances involved....it's called 'parallax'.

Say you're on a long, straight road, with mountains in the far distance. The nearby trees whiz by as you travel, but the mountains remain the same for hours....because from your point of view, they are so far away that your motion relative to them is minimal. That is an analogy for you to ponder.....

Originally posted by Shadow_Lord
reply to post by dk3000

 

But those dates do not match every page that makes up an image. Thats the problem.

I know- that is why sometimes you have search the ownership if the image- which can be an arduous task often losing interest because of the time it can take. Rockpuck made some great points so I did some research and Google sometimes gets licenses/permissions. I attempted to find out if they have any leases with satellite companies and my questions were met with a cold reception and I was offered a lengthy stay in administrative phone/communication jail (as expected!- not sign of a conspiracy- just no interest in addressing my questions so I could post reliable links and evidence).

So with all of this- I withdrawal my theories, conclusions and information because I have personally been limited to information. My boring image research history may seem like I am hijacking or derailing the this thread- so I humbly announce my frustrated defeat. And sincerely wish that all involved figure this out!

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by xnibirux

 

xniburux, when you said that 'planet X' traverses that part of the galaxy, 'that part' referring to the constellation Orion...WOW! You do know, don't you, that the Galaxy is three-dimensional? When we see a constellation, from our little vantage point in our suburb of a spiral arm, we see stars that are at various distances, but seem to form a 'pattern' because we humans evolved to see patterns, even when they don't exist.
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All quite true and correct, but without wishing to speak for xinibrux, I took what was posted originally to mean that the planet's orbit makes it from time to time appear in Orion as we see it - rather than suggesting Orion was a fixed point in space...

...but xinibrux that still confuses me - if it's orbit is so eliptical as to make it's approach to earth so rare, surely it would be fixed in Orion for absolutely ages, no?

LW

reply to post by Essan


Like I said, this thread should be closed, and sorry, a particular section of Orion, it is between Eridanus and Cetus specifically.