US soldiers kill 10-year-old Iraqi girl

I caught a possession charge a few years back and they told me if i enlisted it would be dropped . I told them where to shove it and served my FIFTEEN DAYS..

They really thought i would trade my life for FIFTEEN DAYS.. What morons.

Eleven pages of posts. When the Insurgents blow up children and innocent civilians there are no posts.

Neither the author of the article or anyone posting here has enough information to judge this incident one way or the other. How this sort of thread has any real value I can't see. It makes great fodder for propoganda for the Terrorists is all I can see. It reminds me of the Salem Witch hunts and the old Lynching Parties. Same mentality.

Walk a mile in one of those Soldiers boots before you judge them. I know I'm not qualified; are any of you?

Originally posted by LoneGunMan
We sir are the ones that are not fighting fair. We are using the most advanced technology the world has seen with the best tactics, fire power and military that was created to be able to defend Europe The US and still be able to go on the offensive deep into Moscow. All at the same time.

They have some Knives and homemade bombs.

That sir is far from fair.

Since when does war have to be fair?? Where does it say that??? Proportional response is one thing, but having to arm US troops just with knives and homemade bombs simply because the enemy is using them makes no sense.

Poor girl.

My heart is with her family and all others caught up in this vicious machine.
Sorry to interrupt the bickering, you may resume.

- Lee

reply to post by Blaine91555


We're expected to hold ourselves above the enemies we fight.

After all, if we do the same thing, what right do we have to fight them on a moral pedestal?

Originally posted by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR
I caught a possession charge a few years back and they told me if i enlisted it would be dropped . I told them where to shove it and served my FIFTEEN DAYS..

They really thought i would trade my life for FIFTEEN DAYS.. What morons.

Good. One less drug addict criminal joining the military and making us look bad.

reply to post by Blaine91555

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by palehorse23

 

Sounds justified to me..

Terrible that it happened, but its war.. and in war terrible things happen. I honestly doubt she was "waving" but perhaps another hand signal, or acting in an odd manor.. it must have been something to convince a soldier to kill an obviously young girl..

(it is not unheard of for kids to be used to plant bombs, be suicide bombers, signal attacks, cause a distraction for an attack)

I believe it was this ignorant (murders point of view)post that got things going .

reply to post by jaamaan


US forces have not killed hundreds of thousands. That's a load of bravo sierra. Of the 80-150k that have died, 90+% were as a result of insurgent violence.

You might want to read the definitions of discriminate and indiscriminate.


dictionary.reference.com...

2. to note or observe a difference; distinguish accurately: to discriminate between things.
–verb (used with object) 3. to make or constitute a distinction in or between; differentiate: a mark that discriminates the original from the copy.
4. to note or distinguish as different: He can discriminate minute variations in tone.

dictionary.reference.com...
in·dis·crim·i·nate (ĭn'dĭ-skrĭm'ə-nĭt) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Not making or based on careful distinctions; unselective: an indiscriminate shopper; indiscriminate taste in music.
Random; haphazard: indiscriminate violence; an indiscriminate assortment of used books for sale.
Confused; chaotic: the indiscriminate policies of the previous administration.
Unrestrained or wanton; profligate: indiscriminate spending.

reply to post by BlueRaja


I'm sorry if you thought I was being literal with the one for five comment. It is not meant that way - it was an exageration born of disgust. I need to keep in mind that I am in a forum of a different kind, and you deserve responses that aren't emotionally charged.

On the other hand - I stand by my Nazi Hitler Youth comment. It is one thing to be gung-ho and a motivated military person - it is entirely another to encourage young people to treat shooting real-live people, grinning and 'hoorah-ing' in celebration it like its HALO or Half-Life.

reply to post by Mr. Ree


I had my prescription meds in the wrong bottle.. Awesome to jump to conclusions . Shows your true colors .

Its people like you that are doing these killings . You assume WAYYYY too much . Without ANY evidence . .

And you missed the point THERE TRYING TO RECRUIT THESE DRUG DEALERS
Which is claimed to be false.

[edit on 13-3-2008 by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR]

Last verbal warning. Posts of a personal nature will be warned from here out.

Originally posted by reubendarious

Let me see if I got everything straight, you say that the insurgents are not acting on self defense

Self defense of what?

If you feel sectarian violence and insurgents are fighting in self defense then so be it, but it is funny how that we would have been out of there long ago if they were not “defending” as you say. Have you ever thought that many those fighting do not want the Americans to leave until we are broke and then are forced leave the country while it is still in chaos?

First of all the Iraqi's government was handpicked by the U.S., second the Iraqi's army and police are being trained and supported by the U.S., but the U.S. is the aggressor.

You are spinning this just to justify your reasoning, and it is just not that way. Their Government needs to start somewhere and you are completely wrong to say we hand picked them. Saying that you are suggesting we went to all the provinces and hand picked everyone. They can and will be free from outside influences once they are on their feet, so our political involvement is short lived.

Not sure your point in the training part...they need trained people for us to leave them on their own.


[edit on 13-3-2008 by Xtrozero]

Originally posted by LoneGunMan

They have some Knives and homemade bombs.

That sir is far from fair.

War is hell, not fair. Only an idiot would ever choose to give the opponent any even odds.


The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
George S. Patton

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Eleven pages of posts. When the Insurgents blow up children and innocent civilians there are no posts.

Neither the author of the article or anyone posting here has enough information to judge this incident one way or the other. How this sort of thread has any real value I can't see. It makes great fodder for propoganda for the Terrorists is all I can see. It reminds me of the Salem Witch hunts and the old Lynching Parties. Same mentality.

Walk a mile in one of those Soldiers boots before you judge them. I know I'm not qualified; are any of you?

Well if you put it this way then we don't expect from the terrorists much do we? but we do expect from the people bringing democracy something else?
Looks like you are comparing terrorists with the arm forces over there in Iraq, then they must be on the same level?

Originally posted by jerico65


Since when does war have to be fair?? Where does it say that??? Proportional response is one thing, but having to arm US troops just with knives and homemade bombs simply because the enemy is using them makes no sense.

We are the invaders!! We attacked them! Are you kidding?

The enemy? We are the enemy.

You should not have a problem with Adolph invading Poland then, he was just doing a pre-emptive attack to end terrorism. The ugly stuff came years later after they got desperate when the rest of the world attacked them.

The point is we are the ones on the offensive.

reply to post by BlueRaja


And who wouldn't have been insurgents fighting for their country if we didn't invade a country unjustly?

Who wouldn't have been dead because they were caught in a S-storm of bullets and pragmatic politics?

Who wouldn't be likely to grow up as orphans, in a society that believes on martyrdom and eye for an eye vengence?

reply to post by LoneGunMan


The insurgents are not defending Iraq. They are defending themselves while they attack civilians, military, government. Big difference in motives. I guess you just ignore Iraqis that fight against insurgents, because they don't count.

Originally posted by BlueRaja


War is hell, not fair. Only an idiot would ever choose to give the opponent any even odds.

We have attacked a country that did not attack us or any of our allies. It is just bad news, we are this huge bully clubbing this country. As Americans WE DONT DO THAT!


Edit to add: and you are defending shooting a ten year old in the face!

[edit on 13-3-2008 by LoneGunMan]

Originally posted by Holygamer
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

We're expected to hold ourselves above the enemies we fight.

After all, if we do the same thing, what right do we have to fight them on a moral pedestal?

My main point is that this huge thread is based on too little information. None of us were there and even the author of the article did not have enough information to judge the incident. Certainly nobody posting here knows for sure what happened and its all conjecture or gossip if you will. 12 pages of it.

reply to post by LoneGunMan

He is trying to tell you that little girls like that little girl caused 911 so that is why they are there, to kill little girls torture prisoners and throw pupys off the cliff to be able to bring democracy to Iraq.


[edit on 13-3-2008 by pepsi78]