NY Governor Spitzer Is Linked to Prostitution Ring

The guy may indeed be a horny hypocrite, but with that said lets at least resist the silver platter for a few posts.



This is Amtrak NYC to Washington DC for this thrusday March 13. The account puts spitz in DC by plane on Feb 14th 2008 which was also a thursday.

Simply my initial guess, but she rode on the Acela (high speed / comfort / $). Did he stay overnight in DC? Does anyone have more hotel information? When were his public appearances? I want time of contact, etc.

Not saying he is innocent, but simply giving it the old ATS try.
Anyone game?

(my edit - I missed one acela on the pict)
(my edit2- granted my pict isnt as sexy as the Emperors Club VIP visuals added to the MSM reporting; and yes I am aware that he has confessed - not the point really.)
(Final edit - I made an initial mistake on the thursday Rendezveus - it was on wednesday.)
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This is gonna hurt the dems for sure. Way to go lefties. Man, can we just do something right to win an election. I wonder what Ms. Clinton will say about this. Maybe Spitzer should have called her at 3 a.m.!!!
This guy is definitely no "Elliott Ness".

Originally posted by scrapple
Not saying he is innocent, but simply giving it the old ATS try.
Anyone game?

I'm fairly sure his press conference this afternoon was admission of guilt. Why bother playing defense attorney here? The guy got caught with his pants down. On the radio they reported that the hooker met with him, left after a couple of hours with $4,300 in cash and said "he was nice, no problems."

Again not that this is in anyway related to Spitzer's infidelity, but this was what it seems he was in Washington before Congress for.

www.cjr.org...

The Wall Street Journal and The Financial Times report this morning that New York Governor Eliot Spitzer is stoking the fire his insurance superintendent has set under the monoline bond insurers, saying they have five days tops to shore up (subscription site) their capital or be busted up.

Spitzer testified on Capitol Hill to a House subcommittee on capital markets that he could slice off the monolines’ large municipal-bond-insurance businesses if they don’t act quickly. He is trying to prevent downgrades of the bond insurers from sharply raising the borrowing costs of municipalities across the country. Yesterday, credit raters slashed the third-largest monoline’s rating six notches below the top-rated AAA, potentially affecting $300 billion of bonds

Separating the municipal bond part of the business from the structured-finance part that has gotten them in trouble would be bad news for Wall Street, which would face tens of billions of dollars in write-downs because of the resulting downgrading of the bond insurers’ credit ratings. But Spitzer and Eric Dinallo, his insurance regulator, say their primary consideration is to protect municipalities and their bondholders:

If we do not take effective action, this could be a financial tsunami that causes substantial damage throughout our economy.

Now we all know that the impending world mortgage / municipal bond insurer / banking financial crisis is of course trivial in comparison - and probably not relevant at all - to this specific person's revealed situation right??







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Originally posted by JBA2848
reply to post by xyankee

 

We can't even pass a bill to take there pensions away. Theres public officals in prison who still get a check from the tax payers. Convicted of felonies while in office.

The reason is because they make the rules, not the people it just shows the power they really have and this is what needs to change.

Here are the legal papers themselves-
with ALL the details...


www.thesmokinggun.com...


Great reading, and I am a Democrat.


TPM

Gov. Eliot Spitzer was on Fox Business Network on February 14, the morning after an alleged meeting with a prostitute in Washington, DC. The topic?...Scandals: financial and housing.

Spitzer's first interview of this day, Valentine's Day, was on CNBC at 7amET.

Both above from some google hit called: Mediabistro?
www.mediabistro.com...

Am I mistaken that he flew down on the 14th from Albany for the LIVE morning MSNBC gig, and the hooker was coming in by train that same day?

Is the first above report wrongly written somehow? Or did his flight land AM on the 14th? Any takers for checking Dulles/Reagan for inbound red-eyes on the 14th?

(I am sorry for this all, its just my nature)
-scrap


(My edit - ignore the above I was off by a day)

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When politicians betray the people, they should get the death penalty. My two cents.

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what the hell is Spitzer into? At the bottom of page 30 (web page 5) the hooker says she heard she might be asked to do things that might not make her feel safe,

ok, ATS crackpots, what's Spitzer's kink?

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That was my point two pages ago, the markets 215 billion bail out by the fed again didn't help the markets at all when the oil is hitting 107 dollars.

Now the juicy sex scandal comes to keep the people out of mind and out of site of the economic downfall.

Interesting you know this will keep the topic diverted for a while perhaps until the deceiving stimulus checks take the minds out of site from the sex scandal

And for those that call for the death penalty from this type of issues involving political figures let me remind you that historically from slaves, Mistresses and love children our politicians and people in power has always been linked with one of the other.

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OK I'll bite :

It involved his parties symbol, K-Y, a noose, 2 fish taco's and latex...

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good lord, you thought that up all by yourself? sick and twisted for sure.

Thanks for the affidavit link HighDefinitionFilms.

While the train “times” check out per script, I am curious about the individual train numbers.(#).


www.thesmokinggun.com...


The matching Wednesday 'runs' from NYC to DC are 5:39pm Arr. 9pm – just as the affidavit says. Yet the train numbers are off somehow. The train she was supposed to catch, (line 79 in the affidavit above states train #129.) yet the 5:39pm Wednesday outbound to DC always seems to be #193. (I projected forward only into this April to check this.)


amtrak.com

Each Wednesday there seems to be a #129 train from NYC to DC but its at (4:25pm Arr. 740pm) only.

-This would be too early as 'sex dispatch' calls the NYC hooker at approx 4:21pm to get to Penn station, and later texts her at approx. 4:54pm with the specific ticket information (To pick up at window I suppose) which would be after #129’s scheduled departure.

…I am probably confusing something here, but the affidavit does not seem to exactly line up, or there is an error in the affidavit, or in the dispatchers text message, but considering it all at face value one might reason that she rode the #193 - prior to the Governor.

Any thoughts?


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To Scrapple's point - Andrea Mitchell just reported on MSNBC that Spitzer is currently heavily involved behind the scenes in trying to shore up the various financial markets. She would know.

This pretty much sums it up. I feel so sorry for his wife...and three daughters. It will be awfully hard to explain to each of them how he objectifies women for his satisfaction, aside from the legal issues and all.

I think this goes to show that you just can't legislate some morality issues and it creates an endless supply of hypocritical scenarios when you do.


Mother Jones

Having sex with prostitutes is always a risky proposition for any public official. But when you've pissed off some of the richest and most powerful people in the world, paying for sex may be one of the more stupid things you could do. Jezus, Eliot, what the hell were you thinking?

...Spitzer is so loathed on Wall Street and in the business community that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has devoted entire conferences to figuring out how to bring him down. Tom Donohue, the president of the Chamber, once accused Spitzer of using the "most egregious and unacceptable form of intimidation that we have seen in this country in modern time" in his investigation of Wall Street firms back in 2005, when Spitzer was the state's attorney general.

Business leaders despise Spitzer for his holier-than-thou press conferences in which he denounced them as slimeballs. Among his enemies: former chief of the New York Stock Exchange, Dick Grasso; the entire mutual fund industry; dirty power-plant owners; trillion-dollar banks. Spitzer went after all of them, with an aggressive use of state and some federal law that was derisively known as "Spitzerism." His election as New York's governor showed that he had the ability to win over upstate Republicans, a sign that he might have a future in national politics. And imagine the business world's horror at the possibility of a Spitzer-led U.S. Department of Justice, or worse, the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Spitzer had to know that people were gunning for him. Put aside Wall Street, he'd made plenty of enemies prosecuting garden-variety criminals. As head of the state's organized crime task force, he prosecuted two major prostitution rings. He certainly must have realized that prostitution business often has deep ties to mobsters. So by associating with $5,500-an-hour "executive" call-girls who were in bed with wealthy individuals and possibly connected to organized crime, Spitzer put himself in a position where he could be blackmailed or ruined by the very types of people he had pursued.

Sex for hire might not be the end of every politician. Louisiana senator David Vitter, whose phone number turned up in the records of the famous D.C. Madam, is testament to that. Other politicians have survived sex scandals, too, most notably Rudy Giuliani and Idaho senator Larry Craig. But Spitzer made his career on being Mr. Clean. He used his moral authority to fix a lot of things that were wrong with corporate America. As a result, this hypocrisy will be his undoing. Dick Grasso and his friends must be popping the champagne.

Originally posted by kosmicjack
To Scrapple's point - Andrea Mitchell just reported on MSNBC that Spitzer is currently heavily involved behind the scenes in trying to shore up the various financial markets. She would know.

LOL,

and Marg6043's point as well.

This is not to say that Spitz didn’t pay for his happy ending, but there is possibly much more to this than meets the eye folks. Think the investment banks, the FED, and the actual US treasury, international RE insurers etc, wouldn’t take a crack at a Governor who had threatened them and won in the past, and was supposedly poised to cause them grief again. The guy typical to his reputation supposedly caused quite a stir at his Congressional hearings by attacking the Reps.

More importantly - What ever happened to no nookie prior to Game day? Instead he decides to bop an interstate 4diamond girl on Valentines day, calling numerous times to figure our if he has appropriate “credit” so he can stay up late the night before MSNBC, FOX, and his Congressional appearance.

I can't refute that he apologized, (and he probably has dallied now or in the past which is sad for all involved) but I also don’t like it that the FBI affidavit seems to be off regarding the train #.

And what’s with the only redacted word on page (6?) She was to put the extra (credit) cash into a/the “?”. It’s probably not the word “bank” as they already have Client-9 talking about finding a bank to get more fun-money. Is it ATM? What? Why remove it? And guesses?

-scrap

A couple of things I found interesting:

One, the wording "same as in the past" from Client-9 regarding method of payment, meaning he has obviously done this before with the same agency.

And, apparently, this was the authorities following the money. They thought he was involved in briberies. The whole "sex sting" seems to be dumb luck on the FBI's part.

So, in effect, he has screwed himself and caused the downfall of the Emperor's Club whic will undoubtedly bring the downfall of all involved.

He's not going to be popular on either side of the law...

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It was the money.

The FBI wasn't trying to get Spitzer.

They were after the call-girl agency that operated across state lines.

Spitzer was just using the wrong agency.

It might have worked out that he would have never been caught, and I'm sure that's what he was banking on.

Still, it was an extremely stupid thing to do on his part, given his family, his status, his position, and his reputation.

Spitzer's rush to accept guilt and responsibility makes me wonder what he is really guilty of here. It's like he wants to admit to the lesser crime rather than let the cat out of the bag.

Originally posted by taybes
It's like he wants to admit to the lesser crime rather than let the cat out of the bag.

abcnews.go.com...

Exactly.

You can bet the he and his lawyers will be burning the midnight oil to keep him out of prison.

But, as has been noted by some, the feds will be looking into whether or not there is a misappropriation of funds issue here.

The sex could be only the tip of the iceberg.


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