Did Steve Fossett Find a Path to Another Dimension

Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by spikedmilk

 

There's. No. Evidence. For. Any. Of. This.

It's not an interesting theory, it's a baseless hypothesis founded on wishful thinking and damned all else. If you think this is interesting, then you're clutching at straws. The only thing interesting in this debate is the fact people are so unwilling to consider the obvious facts and instead go with Aliens/wormholes/time travel/conspiracy rubbish.

so uninteresting that theres already three pages of ATS'rs who ARE interested because they obviously took the time to open the thread and read thru it. and that would include YOU

spikeD

edit to add.....I guess we're on page 4 now ...

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reply to post by GrOuNd_ZeRo


Hold on, hold on, are you saying Elvis is dead.

Only just the other day I overheard someone say "Elvis has just left the building" in a conspiritual way and thats good enough for me

My family and I have discussed this at length and we fully believe that something strange happened to Mr. Fossett, whether it be earthly or other-worldly. I don't buy the story of a simple plane crash (i could believe that he "crashed" it deliberately to fake his death or that his plane was rigged to crash and "disappear") simply because of all the effort that was put into finding him by many, many civilian and government organizations, AND the fact that he had a GPS and a signal device, but there has still been no trace of the man.

I have no idea what he was up to, but I think he stumbled onto something and he's not coming back alive.

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reply to post by writtenimage


You should familiarise yourself with the area he was lost in, then it wouldn't seem so weird. There are lots of crevasses that a crashed plane could disappear into. The area is massive, larger than Wales (for the Brits), and it is littered with crashed planes, because the weather there produces massive sudden down-draughts that literally slam planes into the ground, plunging them thousands of feet in seconds. That's not enough time for him to call a mayday, especially if he's busy trying to level his plane out.

If it happened in a very gentle area with no horrific weather conditions, no history of dozens of crashed planes, then you might have a point. As it is, the only logical conclusion is that he was very, very unlucky. Nothing more sinister than that.

Great post I found this situation very interesting, I agree with the poster above me that it is a massively crevaced terrain and does produce many odd weather conditions that could down a plane. What I don't understand is how they haven't found him, GPS locaters and other devises were supposably in use by Mr. Fossett. An the other fact that they have better planes taking photographs of the terrain then any of our space sattelites en.wikipedia.org... (go to the bottom of page and read disappearance and search). The technology that is in use should produce his plane, if not then what the hell happened? I suppose time will shead light on this event.

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GPS locators are not the same as a GPS beacon, which he didn't have. His GPS would have told him his location, no-one else. GPS is only good for finding something when you know the co-ordinates of what you want to find. It's not surprising at all that he's still missing, as it's a massive, massive area, and he would have been slammed into the ground in seconds, barely enough time for him to try to level off.

As for the technology being used to find him, it's fantastically advanced, but it's not perfect, and still takes ages to process the entire area. If the plane crumpled into a hill and slid into a crevasse, it wouldn't even be visible from the air or a satellite. To find him with all certainty, you'd have to scour the ground with people, and that would cost billions of dollars.

O ya an theres also this article, a pretty quick read; just talks about his plane, weather conditions, and friends accounts. Take a look: www.wired.com...

reply to post by dave420


I wonder if he had a cell phone on him? Couldn't he been found by using the locator on his phone for 911 calls?

Best Regards,
Trustnobody

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


no, i did not do any hallucinogens at BurningMan. my personal opinion is that being so far off the grid and on the playa which is like a clean slate, my reality tunnel widened. time on the playa warps. days feel like 18 hours, and nights like 15. if 2012 and the 4th dimension are about time shifts, BurningMan is the place to get a preview of what that is like.

Originally posted by altrock
The only way to test the credibility is to contact his wife, and even then its a long shot.

Well I am sure many have thought of this... but I can just imagine a couple of thousand ATS'ers making that call and hounding the lady...

Yup that would get results...

Originally posted by TheColdDragon Makes me wonder if all of the planes being found are the same plane.

AH! Someone is paying attention

Originally posted by sherpa

M. if your out there I am sure many members would give you a warm and open invitation to discuss your communications with Steve.

I second that... but about that 'warm welcome' Are you referring to those skeptics that will pounce and tear him apart?



I have a feeling we have only begun to hear of this...

As to that cell phone trace... I am not sure we have mastered 'intra dimensional calling' yet... but it gives that 'can you hear me now' guy a whole new career possibility

Originally posted by runetang
my original explanation was abduction by aliens as a prime specimen to examine the human brain, because he was an excellent pilot/driver/etc.

Why something so sinister? Perhaps they needed someone with his skills in the OTHER space program? I mean after all he was going to fly Branson's ship... Maybe they simply appealed to his adventurous nature and offered him that great new adventure where few have gone...

Only catch is you can't come back and talk about it ...

Now on that note...

WHO is servicing Bigelowe's modules? Someone is taking the 'float your stuff' items up there and someone had to have installed the billboard projector...

But hey... perhaps another thread...

Originally posted by thebox
Hmm, this topic seems to have touched a nerve...

Yes it certainly does... I always find that type of response very informative...

If we are just a bunch of nuts with a crazy idea... why the fervor of the protest? The sign on the door shouldbe clear indication of what to expect inside... you have to chose to reach for the door knob

Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
Good example is Elvis, after his death people still thought he lived.

Silly Lemmings... I guess you haven't been to Los Vegas lately, huh?

Originally posted by jpm1602
VERY plausible explanation. I have been on edge for 3 yrs here in N. America. Bad things, to happen, and I keep dreaming of tsunamis.

Run out of tinfoil and medication again, eh jpm?

Originally posted by SurferXXX
Too bad John Lear is not around. I would love to hear his opinion on this as he is a pilot as well and probably knew Mr. Fossett personally.

John Posted this in the original Steve Fossett thread... before it was moved...

www.belowtopsecret.com...

Here is the thread...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Why don't we exist in the fourth deminsion?
If first is a point, and second is a line, and third is height, width, and length, why don't we exist in the fourth is it's time?
Or would that mean in the fourth deminsion time takes on an entirely different role, if any?

Would be something amazing if he'd found a way to another world though- Did he leave behind any information?
I don't imagine why he would leave for it if he had no means back- So, maybe he'll return, someday?

Interesting read.

I think someone's getting this story confused with Dr. Buckaroo Banzai's successful attempt in the early 1980's to pass through a mountain in the Arizona desert using his Ford rocket truck and oscillating overthruster. That resulted in warring factions of black and red Lectoids from the 8th Dimension being able to access normal Earth spacetime for a while. So I think we're probably talking about the 8th Dimension, not the 4th Dimension.

Folks

I rarely post these days...but I will in this case. I first joined ATS not because of the debunkers...but because of the searchers and re-searchers. To debunk by saying , or demanding proof is the easy road. To take the datapoints...do your OWN analysis, correlate that analysis with others, publish an assertion based on your findings...now THAT is valuable.

Steve Fossett was an experienced, currently certified pilot - Fact
Steve followed proper procedure in pre-flight - inferred...
Steve's plane had an ELT (tested monthly as req'd by law if flown by more than one pilot) - Fact - see 14 CFR 91.207
Steve went missing and his ELT did NOT activate - Fact

That's all we know. Now we have a poster that says..."I heard this...isn't it interesting". Some have said..."gee, let's see if this is plausible...I'm going to go out and do some independent research". And you know what??? There is source documentation that states that naturally occurring phenomenon (as described) are a statistical possibility.

Again, not trying to "make it fit", but just looking for what is plausible/possible and then probable.

Frankly, I think we're a LONG way off from collectively saying...bunk...or plausible...or even probable. We simply do NOT have enough data. So, let's actually add value to this community...research the various aspects of this scenario and see what the data says!

Just maybe....?


[edit on 29-2-2008 by jonke05]

Yes, Steve Fossett did in fact find a path to another dimension. Unfortunately he isn't the first. Hundreds of millions of others have found the same path, and an untold number will find it in the future.

He died.

And we should let his memory rest in peace.

I've been lookin forward for someone to say there is a another demension out there, but the whole story to me makes sense. Maybe one day he will come back or maybe not.

This whole story is a neat idea. When they didn't find the plane or body I was suspicious given his talent for staying alive. I thought the introduction to this story was a little rough. The way his wife supposedly talked didn't sound like a greiving widow. Or maybe she has been prepared for his death for quite some time given the risks he would take.

I wouldn't give this story any credence other than it is interesting and it reminds me a little of some weird shaft in the earth up in Wisconsin(?). People go there and have interesting experiences involving other dimensions. Lastly, there is a book published that puts a doorway to another dimension near where I live but I haven't seen any thing to give evidence to its existence.

I forgot about that Buckaroo Banzai - that was a cult classic!