Did Steve Fossett Find a Path to Another Dimension

Originally posted by dave420
His plane crashed in a place literally littered with wrecked planes. That's all. No wormholes, no interdimensional rifts, no aliens, no reptilians, nothing. A very unfortunate accident.

Come on folks, grow up a little and use that intellect of yours. Leaping to insane conclusions just makes all of us look like fruitcakes.

Ok then where is his plane? If it's just another thing that happened like the others and they found other planes then where is his? Come harder on your next argument. You provide as much detail as the info you are complaining about.
There have been way too many responses similar to yours that use " logic" but somehow it seems to just be opinion disguised as fact...
This could be a reall possibility. I think that the best thing to do is for us all to do a little more research and keep this option of the 4th or some kind of dimension alive. Too debunk it now with no evidence is the same as claiming it happened with no evidence....
In all, those claiming sci-fi are just as guilty as those claiming a legit 4 th dimension travel..

Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis
One thing Fossett has done is make himself disappear on paper. He technically now does not exist, he's presummed dead.

He has more money that I'd bother to count (and probably him too). Like what some have said in this the thread; the world is a strange place...and I say, so are it's inhabitants.

It's simply with that fortune to make yourself disappear and reappear as someone else, seperate bank accounts under an alias? etc etc....a 4th deminsion? Yes, it's called a fake ID and a fake life, but that's in this world.

I haven't really followed this story for the feeling that I got about his disappearnce being a...hoax on his part. If my best friend or family member had mysteriously disappeared...I would never stop the search. Somebody knows something...from the gov't (probably, considering where he "crashed") to his close family and friends (Branson).

I believe he's alive and well...living in Brazil on a beach in a nice place with a martini at hand, while talkin to Branson about how "it's too hot today.".

I'm not knocking Fossett, he did want most think of doing.

Cheers Fossett..or whoever you are now, cheers.

if he did want a new identity what would the intention be for that? usually you want a new id bc you are trying to get away from something. what would he want to be trying to get away from? he had no outstanding warrant or debts and such his companies are flourishing, his family loves him. it is a plausible idea that he just up packed it and left but the big question would be why.

Maybe there's a reason 'they' are building deep underground military bases around Nevada? Area 51 as well.

Supposedly there are many such portals in this earth, including one in the Roselyn chapel which can be unlocked with specific harmonics that are depicted by strange 'cube' like sculptures throughout the church.

If a person DID step into the 4th dimensino they would absolutely be ecstatic. No time, no physical boundary, the imagination creates things out of thin air. It would be like stepping into a dreamworld but in the realest sense.... (like death.)

Fantastic story! thanks for bringing it to light!

I don't know about you guys, but this stuff gets me excited!

If I ever make millions of dollars, then this is exactly how I would spend it!

All i know is, I bet Steve's having a blast right now!
He might not want to come back!

Originally posted by Odessy

All i know is, I bet Steve's having a blast right now!
He might not want to come back!

People who experience 'near-death' (actually, after-death) say they go to the 4th dimension and that it is so marvelous and pristine and infinite that they start to 'lose' themself and forget about their mortal existence on Earth etc.

When they are told they need to go back and carry out their physical life on Earth they cry, beg to stay, etc. When they return to the physical body they feel almost ashamed for wanting to 'die' and leave their family/earth behind.

But the 4th dimension is so fantastic to them that it overwhelms their ego and all memory of the physical world.

Yes, if anybody did discover an entrance to the 4th, they would probably never come back

WOW. What an awesome thread Sherpa. Starred n Flagged

As far out as this story is I have a fair level of belief for this theory. I dont know how credible the source is, but given his levl of detail, he either has a VERY imaginative mind or he has had some sort of contact with Fossett in the past as well as the days leading up to his disappearance.

If one is familiar with the related subject matter on this site, you will know that similar accounts such as this have been accounted, but never "formally" documented aside from word-of-mouth accounts. The liklihood of Steve Fossett finding a gateway to the 4th Dimension is plausible and I am intrigued to say the least.

If this portal DOES in fact exist, then doesnt this mean that anyone else that decides to comb the Nevada desert in a thorough enough manner will be able to find the same portal as Fossett did? I am no aviator, but if I were, you could count on me being up in the air 24-7 trying to find a circular tunnel of white light.

My only question is that when he saw this light and he landed, where in fact did he land? Its not as if he were in some sort of VTOL superplane, so where could you land a small aircraft at a moments notice and have the ability to walk up to this tunnel of light? It seems that if this DID happen as the account says, then he would have had to find a landing strip, land, and then hoof it back to the site on wheels. If that is the case then wouldnt he have given the rough coordinates to someone in case he disappeared, so they could find what he did?

There are some things which dont add up, but for a skeptical believer, enough things do make sense which makes me want to learn more. The account from his wife makes all the sense of the utopian civilazations that I have read about in the Hollow Earth theories, but if there is a gateway to something similar just jumping around the desert, I want to go.

One of the best threads i have read in a long time. Nice work!

Just thinking aloud here about random coincidences, but has the mystery "M", the source of these emails, have anything to do with the fact Steve Fossett took of from the Flying "M" Ranch.

Someone connected there or just a freudian slip ?

Too convenient ?, yeah probably.

I am surprised that after 6 pages no other ATS members have brought up the possible connection with the Minot, ND-Barksdale,LA nuke inccident. End of August 2007, but before Fossett went missing, 6 live nukes were flown between the two locations, "in mistake", as claimed by our oh so truthful government. It took the B-52H over 4 hours to make the flight, which would have been enough time to bring them over the same area that Fossett disappeared from. One nuke was supposedly missing on arrival at Barksdale AFB and 7 servicemen related to the incident died (ah, murdered) within the following WEEK under strange context. Whoa, very strange indeed. The odds of this not being a cover-up are staggering! ATSers, if you are not familiar with this angle, I suggest you look into it, as it is very in interesting!!

I think they did "lose" a nuke out there in Nevada and the search for Fossett was a cover to look for it. Meanwhile, Fossett was offered his "next great adventure", a secret space mission to Mars, maybe Titan, thus he vanishes and is pressumed lost and eventually pronounced dead. Anyone else? ...sounds as plausible as a 4th dimension wormhole and there is more evidence to support this theory than that one, IMO. Well, no evidence he is on his way to Mars...but maybe?

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Thanks Don Wahn, I appreciate your appreciation

I have got to confess I am surprised at the interest this thread has generated, but pleased it has made most people happy.

Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis
I believe he's alive and well...living in Brazil on a beach in a nice place with a martini at hand, while talkin to Branson about how "it's too hot today.".

Now THAT scenario would be a fate worse than death fro someone like Fossett

Originally posted by NewWorldOver
People who experience 'near-death' (actually, after-death) say they go to the 4th dimension and that it is so marvelous and pristine and infinite that they start to 'lose' themself and forget about their mortal existence on Earth etc.

Really? Like who? Do they actually say "it was the fourth dimension"? How do they know? What exactly is "the fourth dimension" and how can it be quantified?

When they are told they need to go back and carry out their physical life on Earth they cry, beg to stay, etc. When they return to the physical body they feel almost ashamed for wanting to 'die' and leave their family/earth behind.

I have heard, that most people are given the choice, actually. I couldnt give you a statistic on how many choose to stay and how many choose to go though.

But the 4th dimension is so fantastic to them that it overwhelms their ego and all memory of the physical world.

So they kick and scream about wanting to stay while they have experienced ego loss?

Yes, if anybody did discover an entrance to the 4th, they would probably never come back

Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't the fourth dimension the time axis? Or are you using some other definition of the fourth dimension? And if so, can you please expound on it for those of us who have been wondering what the hell people are talking about when they bring this up?


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I think this is a big hoax and if it is proven to be one then these people are absolutely disgusting. They provide no evidence whatsoever and are speaking for people who could speak for themselves and one that can't. This whole 4th dimension thing is absolute BS, no dimension exists that is an alternate world, that would be something different entirely. It is also highly unlikely that Steve would describe another world as a the 4th dimension. He's an educated man so he would know better.

The most likely situation is that he crashed and is dead, no aliens, no wormholes to some other place, he simply crashed in a very remote place and hasn't been found yet. These people saw an opportunity to take everyone for a ride and have a good laugh but I won't buy into it for one second until they come forward with their identities and solid evidence. It's always the same old nonsense.

I wouldn't be surprised if he just flew over area 51 and got shot down or something.

I don't see how that could be a whole new world, though. Maybe he was thinking about a world where the governments lies weren't so solid

My question this. If the 4th dimension does exist, and it's such a wonderful, Utopian place to be, wouldn't you take your wife and loved ones with you? Wait, maybe he took Stacey Peterson with him? Drew said she left him for another man.

Originally posted by DraconianKing
This whole 4th dimension thing is absolute BS, no dimension exists that is an alternate world, that would be something different entirely.

and you would know how?...

I'm sorry, but religious folk, Astral Projectors, and heck, even some normal folk would disagree with you, and theres a lot of them out there.

but If you want to THINK that this is the only plane of existence, thats cool, but it must be pretty boring.



... you obviously watch Bleach... so think of the 4th dimension being the spirit world, or soul society, lots of Japanese folk believe in it, might be some truth to it, point is, we dont know.

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My theory is that, Steve Fossett, adventurer extrodinare, achieved the ultimate adventure by 'killing' himself off and starting a new life, free of the cares of his past, living on an island somewhere, like a king. It interests me that there have been no memorials, no mention in the news from his family, pretty much nothing since a couple of months after his appearance. Not to mention that internet/Google map fans had no luck in finding him, though droves of them were looking. Also, the man had the highest quality technology that money could buy. Why no beacon? He, by all rights, should not have disappeared, it makes no sense. Hence, this formulation. Any comments?

Originally posted by gypsyblue
'killing' himself off and starting a new life, free of the cares of his past, living on an island somewhere, like a king.

But....he had the money to do that anyway....

Step 1: Buy a remote island

Step 2: Move

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Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't the fourth dimension the time axis? Or are you using some other definition of the fourth dimension? And if so, can you please expound on it for those of us who have been wondering what the hell people are talking about when they bring this up?

I have to admit it seems confusing and opinion may well be divided on the subject, but here is an analogy.

Since it is hard to try to directly picture the fourth dimension in our minds, perhaps using analogy can help us.
In 1884, Edwin Abbot wrote a book called "Flatland". The book writes about A. Square and his world, Flatland.
You may have already guessed, but Flatland is a 2 dimensional, flat plane and A. Square is a square shaped guy who lives there.
He has two dimensions of free movement.
He can go left/right and back/forth, however because he is restricted to his 2 dimensional Flatland plane, he cannot go up/down off the plane. By analogy, we humans are restricted to our "plane" of existence... and it would be impossible for us to freely move in the fourth dimension. Let's go back to A. Square again.
Note that A. Square can only see what lies in his plane of existence, which means if a 3 dimensional sphere were to pass through Flatland, A. Square would not see the sphere, but just 2 dimensional "slices". Taking this further, imagine if a sphere passed halfway through Flatland but stopped in the middle. the sphere would interesect Flatland as just one circle and A. Square could see it!
Furthermore, imagine if as the sphere approaches Flatland, A. Square watches as the sphere slowly moves through his plane. What would A. Square see? Recall that A. Square can only see 2-d slices of the sphere (or circles) so what A. Square would percieve is a circle suddenly appearing, then growing... then reaching a maximum size as the sphere was halfway through and as it exited, the circle would grow smaller until it disappeared. This means that 3d objects could be explained to a 2d being as a bunch of "slices stacked" on top of each other.
Try to imagine taking a bunch of circles and stacking them. They would begin to form a skeleton framework of the actual 3d image.
Similarly if a 4d hypersphere would intersect our plane of existence, we would see a 3d sphere appear out of no where. It would grow until the hypersphere was halfway through, then it would shrink back to nothing. Theoretically, we could stack these spheres to form a hypersphere, but we can't stack them in the usual sense, but rather it would have to extend in the fourth dimension which takes us back to the original dilemma of trying to visualize it.

www.geocities.com...

I have also posted a youtube video of Carl Sagan explaining the same analogy on page 5 of this thread.

It is fitting that you mention time because our world is dominated by it.

We organise our lives by it, you could say we live and die by it.

It seems strange that in a world where we experience most of what we believe in by what we can experience through our 5 senses we do not doubt that time exists.

Yet we cannot see it, hear it, smell it, taste it or touch it.

Perhaps we can observe its effects but is that really time.

I really hope they find Steve Fossett's plane this approaching Spring when they resume the search. He is definitely one of the greatest explorers and adventurers of our modern era. It saddened me greatly to hear of his disappearance and subsequent status of MIA.

I heard many reports from witnesses in the Yosemite Park area who did hear an extremely low flying plane, then an explosion. If he had crashed farther east in Nevada, it shouldn't be too hard to distinguish the wreckage amongst the scrub brush and desert sands. However, if he did come down near Yosemite, his plane could be hidden deep in vegetation contained within massive forests. As a matter of fact during the search for Steve Fossett's plane, they just came across a plane that was lost during World War II in the same area. Lord knows how many forgotten wrecks we will come across as the search process continues.

This 4th Dimension idea is only the beginning of Universal Understanding. Scientists know for certain that we have multiple dimensions, however as far as I am aware of, they have no concrete proof of dimensions beyond the 4th. Einstein even theorized of extra- Dimensions, and that is truly saying a lot as Einstein's theories are constantly being tested and proven correct.

If Steve Fossett did in fact take such a journey, I would like to see him able to reach out to us and let us know he is okay. At the very least, I would like him to be able to reach out to his loved ones. If he is deceased, which will undoubtedly leave such a great, and fascinating man Heavenbound, I pray for him and his loved ones, and hope that he can reach out to them and let them know everything is alright.

RIP Steve Fossett, a Great Explorer.

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Can someone fill me up. From what I read Steve Fossett discovered a gateway to the fourth dimension in the Nevada Desert?

I'm just a bit confuse, did he discover this gateway before he went missing and them made a second trip to the area again and them went missing during the second trip. Or did he went missing at the time he discover this gateway?

I'm no conspiracy nut, but I love hearing about them. Could it be possible that, he was part of a secret government program somewhere in Nevada, selected due to his experiences. Anyways, just a thought.

However, I'm probably gonna relax on the fence about this one, until more evidence or definite proof is found.