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anyone who wants to, but mainly people who have a problem with us, like that racist SOB Hal Turner.
Who watches anonymous?
If you are "anonymous", why would you admit it? (doesn't the "Fight Club" rule apply? - way to go in not being anonymous if you think about it)
alot of that is because of a few things:
The gamespeak and leet reminds me of Warcraft guilds and gamers... Oddly though, that links into this...S. Spies Want to Find Terrorists in World of Warcraft .
My guess is either "Fetch", the youtube troll who threatened Anonymous, or "The Regime", the skiddies who keylogged 711chan, would be next.
Who's next? When does the ideology of anonymous suddenly become wanton splintered DOS attacks by people with a particular beef against an organisation that isn't scientology?
less than 15%. Anonymous began to get a flood of what are now called "newfags" on may 5th, 2007, in responce to an online protest against Subeta's corrupt founder, Keith Kurson, who had participated in child porn, tax/pay evasion, and frequently abuses his site's donation button, having bought in one month well over $9000 worth of items using the account tied to it, for personal use. Long story short, the subeta users found out from their moderators who quit and aired the dirty laundry who the bad guy realy was, and they all jumped ship to our sites.
Just how many "anons" are wannabees who picked up on a bit of info and want to look to be something they aren't?
We verify our info throughly. the nice thing about being anonymous, we can be anyone and everyone. We're already in the church.
More importantly the cloak and dagger stuff and to the topic at hand, how many anons are scientologists who only claim to have left the church, and how much disinfo is there beong put about by both groups?
I know the feds know of the BBS sites, and I have had my chain yanked by one of them myself....it may be, but there;s no way to tell. being anonymous is a double edged sword, you never know who is behind that Guy Fawkes mask.
It may not be an NSA/FBI sting, but I bet some of it is - as they say -CIA all the way - its in the interests of the federal authorities to let both sides kick the crap out of each other, and no one stirs the pot better than the spooks.
Originally posted by neformore
Let me reinforce a message again.
No one has been kicked off ATS for expressing their ideas or opinions.
No ones ideas or opinions have been censored.
People have been removed and/or warned because they acted in a manner which violates our Terms and Conditions of membership.
Once again, here are our Terms and Conditions of Use.
There are no "martyrs" here, only people who cannot comply with the basic standards the T&C requires
As SO said in his post above, continually repeating the word "SPAM" over and over again filling up the screen in countless posts IS going to get you removed from ATS, and thats what has happened.
The moderators here have no beef with Anonymous, or the CoS - as has been said repeatedly we are neutral on the matter, and the forum is open for reasoned discussion and debate
I assume that both sides of the debate are intelligent capable thinkers, so lets have a continued decent discussion.
Once again, thank you for reading this post
Originally posted by neformore
I do think that your organisation now has more than its fair share of wanabees and hangers on.
I also wonder about your anonimity. You must have heard of Echelon. What happens if the authorities decide to reach out and "touch" a few of you?
Your linked-to video voiceless surprised me. I didn't expect to cry.
Years and years ago, I was heavily involved with the Co$. I bought it hook, line, and sinker. I thought I had the ultimate answer to everything and I was willing to fight for that with my life.
I endured grueling 12+ hour workdays and virtually no pay for a chance to save the world. I practiced how to lie effectively (they call them TRs) and due to my "get it done" attitude, shortly had an office in the International Administration Headquarters in Hollywood, the Flag Command Bureau, as a member of the Sea Org. I had a nice office with a window seat overlooking downtown Hollywood, and I wore a uniform that looked sharp and military, with epaulets on my shoulder!
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Originally posted by Waylon
Yes I am well aware of the concept, and the popularity of the idea amongst the powerful. Most of them believe their own intentions are good, seeing it as cooperation, unity, a government for the good of all mankind (that's why that guy said he was guilty as charged).
I know it has been established that the plans for war in Iraq were made and decided upon before the 'public' decision to declare war, and this disturbed me greatly. And there was a lack of logic in the justification for it that certainly suggests an underlying motive.
However, my interpretation is perhaps colored by the fact that I am not an American. You seem to see the NWO as something seeking to control America. What I see is America's attempt to spread its influence by gaining Afghanistan and Iraq as outposts of the 'empire.' The neocons no doubt feel this is justified to maintain America's security into the future.
I see the US attempting to subvert and derail attempts at global consensus and cooperation. Do you really think the NWO is a threat to the US? America has always protected its own interests, as is its right as a sovereign nation. Do you see America bowing down to the UN or signing the Kyoto Protocol, or treating China as a partner instead of a competitor? I don't think so.
America's power allows it to dictate the global agenda.
I share your discomfort that there may well be a New World Order coming, but I bet it will be dominated by American interests.
[edit on 26-2-2008 by Waylon]
Originally posted by Anonymous13
Based on what, exactly? Is this forum, ATS, an 'organization'? Does it have 'wannabes' and 'hangers-on'? Anonymous are a bunch of message board participants. Have you read the 2channel article yet? (below)
en.wikipedia.org...
What about your anonymity? How does anything you're saying apply to anonymous posters to any greater or lesser degree than it would apply to you?
Originally posted by confederacyforever
So you are saying that we need rules in order to make sure there is peace and calm amongst a community and any conspiracy against that is unfounded and possibly an over reaction?
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I see your point.