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Originally posted by centurion1211
And yes, there was even a (quickly debunked) thread on ATS supposedly showing that illegals create less crime than citizens. Check out the post by kattraxx to crush that argument of yours as well.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Great. Another one. My logic is not flawed since I seem to be one of the few actually using logic here.
I'm also living in the real world. The one where these kids were klled and hurt by an illegal that should not have been here.
The real world where they would still be alive if the illegal had not come here.
Not your fantasy world where giving away drivers licenses and other rights and privileges to people that have not earned them and don't deserve them is seen as "the answer".
And I don't care how sorry you feel for this "poor illegal" and whatever caused them to to break our laws and then kill and injure our kids.
Again, where is your sympathy for the people that really deserve it?
Flawed logic ...
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Here is the statistic that NEEDS NO PROOF:
100 % OF ILLEGALS COMMIT CRIMES.
What part of ILLEGAL do those that doubt this, not understand?
Originally posted by centurion1211
This really a horrific story and just one example of the problems caused by people that should not even be in this country.
more legal citizens kill people in this nation on a daily basis than illegals. perhaps we should toss the citizens and let the illegals have a go at it instead.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Here is the statistic that NEEDS NO PROOF:
100 % OF ILLEGALS COMMIT CRIMES.
What part of ILLEGAL do those that doubt this, not understand?
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Immigrants are far less likely than the average U.S.-born citizen to commit crime in California, the most populous state in the United States, according to a report issued late on Monday.
People born outside the United States make up about 35 percent of California's adult population but account for about 17 percent of the adult prison population, the report by the Public Policy Institute of California showed.
According to the report's authors the findings suggest that long-standing fears of immigration as a threat to public safety are unjustified. The report also noted that U.S.-born adult men are incarcerated at a rate more than 2 1/2 times greater than that of foreign-born men.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Let's say you get your way, and allow anyone that wants to come into this country illegally. At some point, there are as many of them, as there are of us. So lets say you're in the 25% federal tax bracket, add another 15.3% for both halves of FICA(your half and the employers half- which if you're self employed-is you), 6% for state, and maybe a couple of % for local income tax. That works out to about 50%. Now to pay for the 300,000,000 freeloaders(yes, that's what they are), your taxes now are 100%. You work all year for NOTHING, just to pay for these freeloaders.
Illegal Immigration Is Not A Victimless Crime
Apologists for illegal immigration try to paint it as a victimless crime, but the fact is that illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population — the poor, minorities, and children.
Illegal immigration causes an enormous drain on public funds. The seminal study of the costs of immigration by the National Academy of Sciences found that the taxes paid by immigrants do not begin to cover the cost of services received by them. The quality of education, health care and other services for Americans are undermined by the needs of endless numbers of poor, unskilled illegal entrants.
Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants desperate for any job unfairly depresses the wages and working conditions offered to American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees.