Ronald Weinland (nothing yet...)

In the June 28 sermon ...

Ronald Weinland first accepts the blame for interjecting his own dates...

Later on he puts the blame on God, because God allowed him to prophesy using false dates, because God is the one in charge.

Now, again, we are NOT talking about sinning, being human, being imperfect, all have sinned. We are talking about prophesying in ones official capacity as a prophet.

Let's see what the bible says regarding RW's claim that it is God's fault, because He allowed RW to prophesy as he did...


Does the bible support this at all? Let's check...

KJV 1 Samuel 3 :19-20
19And Samuel grew, and the LORD was with him, and did let none of his words fall to the ground.

20And all Israel from Dan even to Beersheba knew that Samuel was established to be a prophet of the LORD.

When operating in the official capacity as prophet, God NEVER lets the prophet's words fall to the ground unfulfilled. This is a slap in the face of God.

Originally I was going to say there is a death penalty in the OT for prophets whose prophecies FAILED, but the only one I could find was a death penalty for prophets whose prophecies CAME TRUE, but that prophet then leads the people away to false gods...there is a death penalty for him.

There simply WAS NO EXPECTATION that somebody would follow a prophet whose PROPHECIES FAILED TO COME TO PASS.

That is why there is no death penalty for him, because no reasonable person would (or should) follow such a man, because he was NO THREAT to the nation's spiritual fidelity.

There is no provision in the entire bible, for false prophets repenting...NONE.

Repenting of sins...yes, repenting of false prophecies no.


[edit on 30-6-2008 by SirPaulMuaddib_2]

P.S.

REVISED DATE FOR CHRIST'S RETURN....

1335 DAYS AFTER SEPT 30. 2008.

Apparently Christ is NOT coming back on the LAST TRUMPET which occurs on the Day of Trumpets, but on Pentacost (2012), therefore if you backtrack (since 2008 MUST be the start of the Tribulation SOMEWHERE), you will arrive at Sept 30, 2008 as the start of the TRUE 1335 days, and later on the Tribulation....

(sigh....there is a statistical chance that Ronald Weinland might get it right one day, but not today)

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Greetings Doctorex.....You certainly have formulated an interesting thesis and I must say It appears you are certain and steadfast in your position,having said that I realize it is not your place to convince either myself or any body else for that matter....I consider myself fortunate to have been warned....On the other hand RWs explanations are self serving and in no way consistant with prophesy....It is my feeling that RW is no more an end time witness than you and I....He is simply a voice in the wilderness echoing the warnings of impending judgement for this nation and the world....God help us all to pay heed to the words set forth in the bible and not let the RWs of the world turn these times into a business opportunity.....

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How many more times will Doctorex say he's not going to post here anymore and keep doing it? As many times as RW says things will happen and dont?

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AMEN to that brother. April 17 is when I called B.S.

History is rife with example of "prophets" setting dates, then missing said date then moving date to another future time when it will there by once again prove false.

I detect a man that wishes to speak with authority but instead speaks blindly making outragous claims and setting himself up for failure.

If you say to the world your going to do somthing its hard to take it back with out lending more doubt to the allready doubtful masses.

Did he or did he not openly state as of yet that he is a false prophet and will never teach again, as he said he would if he were wrong?

The final week is here at last.

The proof of his authority and office as prophet (according to his own mouth), has not arrived.

Of course we all know he's already capitulated, but that's beside the point.

The argument that a prophet can "repent" and ADJUST the dates and prophecies is utterly ridiculous. There is zero bible support for that.

The sad fact is this, MOST will follow him for the 3 1/2 years (after at least one more date adjustment for that). Some used their eyes, and were able to escape.


[edit on 9-7-2008 by SirPaulMuaddib]

Basically this is all a cult. Seriously I mean I really have no right of calling any guy that but come on. I would beleive Charles manson over this guy. The end times may be near but how near no one knows. The witness maybe, but is the witness even born yet? Believing this is almost worse than blelieving that whole Niburu crap. Get a life Docterx seriously. I beleive in god with all my heart and he has shown me how much of a fake Ronald is. Hell he may be the antichrist for all we know. This topic needs locked until some other false prophet comes that we can talk about.

Originally posted by SirPaulMuaddib
The final week is here at last.

The proof of his authority and office as prophet (according to his own mouth), has not arrived.

Of course we all know he's already capitulated, but that's beside the point.

The argument that a prophet can "repent" and ADJUST the dates and prophecies is utterly ridiculous. There is zero bible support for that.

The sad fact is this, MOST will follow him for the 3 1/2 years (after at least one more date adjustment for that). Some used their eyes, and were able to escape.


[edit on 9-7-2008 by SirPaulMuaddib]

im still disturbed that he is preaching and i feel there is no sincere repentance from this man at all

the end will come, when? noone knows

i think the 2 witnesses will just do their job and not worry what others think and you will know them by their actions

thats how we know

the main thing thatd give the end times away is the 3rd temple being rebuilt and done

as most should know by now, they have nearly all of it done and waiting ok to build, pretty intense

i think this post should just be cut off now, like a hang nail

on a lighter note, if something huge did happen along the lines of what he prophecied

would he say, see i told you even after he just doubted himself and changed the dates?

that would be hilarious on his part, not funny for the world

but it just seems like it would be something hed grab onto

You want real prophecy? Keep a close eye on the European Union and Catholicism along with the current stock market crisis and food epedimic. Also keep a watchful eye on Israel and Iran with their "Cold War" status.

European Union - 7th revival of the Roman Empire
Catholicism - false/universal religion
Stock Market Crash - Set up for unified world government
Food Epedimic - Famine as described by John with the 4 horsemen


These are the real signs of the tribulation to come along with the establishment of Israel in 1948. RW left out too much unfulfilled prophecy. He needs to just give up and tell Satan that the plan didn't work.

The definitive proof, is here at last, not that one needed to wait this long, but it should be clear to all, that he is not a prophet from God.

How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Deut 18:21-22 (KJV)

Sindh govt bans ‘controversial books’

KARACHI: The Sindh government has banned two controversial books titled ‘The Prophesied End Time’ and ‘2008 God’s Final Witness’, both written by Ronald Weinland.

An official announcement said that both books contain material that may offend the sentiments of Muslims, Jews and Christians and is likely to create resentment among different religious groups. It said that this resentment could lead to a law and order problem in the country.

The government has ordered confiscation of all copies of the two books wherever they are found in the open market and has also directed authorities concerned to take necessary action against the writer, publisher, distributors, sellers and others concerned. app


www.dailytimes.com.pk...\07\17\story_17-7-2008_pg7_28

Since the two witnesses are to be hated by the majority of he planet, I guess on top of all the venom already displayed, this type of thing will also become the norm.


[edit on 18/7/08 by doctorex]

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Problem, Ron spoke of certain prophecies that would happen in 2008 when he wrote the book "2008...." yet his prophecies failed to come to pass at the time he said they would. Not everyone has internet access so they can't keep up to date with Ron's ever-changing timetable and only have the outdated and banned books to go by. I swear some people need to learn how to raise the B.S. flag when prophets fail.

Originally posted by doctorex
Since the two witnesses are to be hated by the majority of he planet, I guess on top of all the venom already displayed, this type of thing will also become the norm.

How can you possibly defend this man? You do realize there is absolutely nothing in the bible that supports a false prophet "repenting" of false prophecies?

When God says "don't be afraid of that prophet", you know the verse, He does not mean "don't cower in a corner", He means "DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO HIM ANY MORE".

When the Great Tribulation DOES NOT START THIS this coming Feast of Trumpets, that is, it's really supposed to start 75 day later, because according to Ronald Weinland (you know the guy who's not got one prophecy right) this is when the real 1335 countdown starts. Will you continue to follow him then? Good luck with that!

By all means, do support him with your tithes and offerings, and in this forum.

I was wondering what happened to this post


any interviews anyone knows of that RW is doing?

i highly doubt he will go back to radio stations that didnt believe him so they can gloat

i wish i could find a number to call him and ask him what the F

he is safe in his little town and little church

karma will come back around

sad sad man and sad sad followers

Did anybody remind him to return to Jerusalem, for the "restart" of his commission as one of the Two Witnesses?


According to Ron Weinland, the 1335 period, starts this Sept 30, 2008, on the Feast of Trumpets. That would make the 1260 time period, start on Dec. 14, 2008. So that would mean the Tribulation starts this Dec. 14.



What I would like to know, are there any specific physical prophecies that he’s going to pronounce??? Or is he going to take the safe route and not prophesy any plagues? Or judgments? Or anything?


[edit on 18-7-2008 by SirPaulMuaddib_2]

Thought I'd log in and see whats been happening...

..and guess what... Nothing!

I' glad the whole thing is dead and people finally realised it's all over rover
and we just have to wait until RW finally flips out or gives up or God just takes him as he will all of us anyway.

Cheers guys and gals, it was a great laugh!

Brent

yea, shame on this false "prophit". Nothing that he said came true, and he changed his own prediction further humiliating himself and his family. The April 2008 never happened... 1/3 of grass nor trees never burned up.. The nuclear attacks never happened.

I believe that it may happen in the future, but failing a prophecy once is enough to classify him as a false prophet. He didn't just fail once, his failed prophecies are innumerable, yet some people still follow him, unbelievable.

he should be doing what the Bible teaches, he should give back to the people anything that was taken from them and repent.

I heard that he is currently being investigated for evading income tax, punishable by prison term.