US to shoot down broken spy sat

So what does the Navy have to blow up satellites?

Heard the sat worked for 6 min and went dead.

Also heard of sats with sun panels reversed.

We got Mexicans or dumb ETs working in the aerospace industry.

Its an Illuminati business with low priority, quality and reliability.

Zombie Slayer - I do not think the two are related. I say this as an ex-NYer. There are numerous chemical storage facilities opposite the river from NYC in Jersey, and a stolen tanker full of it can cause some damage if spread in the right/wrong area. I think the idea of space debris slamming into NYC (Manhattan) is enough to worry anyone though (think opening scene of Armageddon - a piece of debris smashing through a building like the Empire State Building or Chrystler Building).
Tesla - that is a good question. Wouldn't the Air Force, not the Navy, be the best group to kick satellite butt?
And if it is true that the sat worked for less than the time it took me to type this and the solar panels were backwards - the contractors should refund the tax dollars wasted for the crap-tastic sat and the cost of the SM-3 to shoot it down.

I just read in my local paper of the plan to shoot this thing down. I find it hard to believe that the hydrazine in the tanks, when they burn up, will not be destroyed as well. This thing is the size of a bus..right? I think that two or three senarios are playing out here:
1) The tracking data shows it to be hitting a populated area with debris that will cause much collateral damage so they have to make it smaller (lots of little pieces) to burn everything up. Not to be morbid, but when Columbia broke up on re-entry, I don't recall any huge pieces of that crashing down and that was much larger than this sat.
2)Shooting down US193 will be a good test. At 150 miles up, the military wants to test the software to see if it tracks correctly. Why not?
3) I like to think that this "shoot down" is also a signal to others...Yes, we can shoot things in space down. We do have the technology. Back off.
The last thing that comes to mind is that with all of the bitching that went on last year when China shot up one of their sats. Remember how everyone was up in arms about "adding more debris in low earth orbit"? Funny how that angle has yet to be talked about in the media
SeeYa!!!

Originally posted by V Kaminski
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Now let's say... just for conjecture and speculation (it is classified) that this pup has a real live nuke firecracker onboard and they detonate it in orbit? Comms losses are possible... happened when I was young... sixty-something.

I was thinking the same thing, a high altitude emp would take out a lot of comms.

Not good.

I was figuring a laser of some sort used to shoot this down. However upon further thought, why tip your hand that early. Kinda wonder if it would be visible when they do blow it up.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne

We got Mexicans or dumb ETs working in the aerospace industry.

Now, I can't figure out if that is an insult or a compliment.

I am not mexican, but I do figure a dumb E.T. that could traverse the universe, or at least on a sub-galaxy level, would be smarter than the average human, since as a planet we only have a few machines that have gone past the outer planets. So it could very well be a compliment to the Mexican nationality.

If it was an insult, try to be more respectful of those who are not of your heritage. This is a worldwide forum ... and hard working Mexicans in Mexico might find that very offensive. You know, they are more than just a stereotype

Heck, around here, Mexican-Americans and other spanish-americans are known for being hard workers and good quality craftsmanship.

Maybe it is different in your area, don't know. I would hate to be pre-judged as a fat plumber in red suspenders (Mario Bros.).

I don't think you meant anything by it, just a bad mix of words

So, essentially, the US Navy's going to try and shoot down one of those things that John Walson's been taking pictures of? Cool!

Hopefully Walson'll try and take pictures of this whole endeavor.

F

Originally posted by harddrive21
Dude you gotta find that link! Outside of the "normal" thruster fuels used, nothing I can think of is that explosive (more than the usual). Is it a fuel of radioactive nature - like used in Cassini to keep the electronics warm and for a small thrust? My curiosity is getting the better of me...

The issue with the fuel on board is not that it is EXTRA explosive. The problesm is, it contains Hydrazine, which is extemly toxic. You don't want this stuff raining down on populated areas.

"Wired" external link: Pentagon Unveils Rogue Spy Sat Shoot-down Plan.

Please read what the web-bot predictions are for this and this article.

Although we are loathe to putting push-pins on maps, and routinely throw away upwards of 20-million geographical references per data collection run, there are two points about this which have been curious to watch. The first is that if we were to take linguistics and map out where the 'hot zone' of language around this event is, we have highest concentrations linguistically like this :

All this information is provided to us by the independance journal here at this web site : www.independencejournal.com...





*depending on your zoom level, these are straight lines - the curve is greater circle effects.

I have to get map to load



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This thing is the size of a bus, it is possible that not all pieces will burn up in the atmosphere. Has anyone heard or read anything on where pieces could fall if they don't burn up?

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From that above link :

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ZMANS link has a map on it that shows, well, 80% of the US could be down range of this sat.

The problem with hydrazine is that it WON'T burn up during reentry. It may vaporize, but it won't decompose. Hydrazine is a mono-propellant (meaning it does not require an oxidizer like, say, liquid hydrogen/liquid oxygen). It works by passing over an iridium catalyst that produces an exothermic reaction. If the hydrazine doesn't pass over the iridium, it will not decompose.

This is why shooting it down makes sense. If you shoot it in space, the hydrazine will spread over a very large area and be harmless. If you just let the satellite come down in one piece, the likelihood is the hydrazine will be concentrated in a much smaller area, and be much more hazardous.

I think they had this planned all along And I think communist china found out and shot one of theres down to beat us to the punch.

It has been confirmed that the satelite will go down in my country somewhere in the centre of it if the US wont be able to shoot it down within a few days.

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Are you saying its projected to land in Poland, if they let it go?

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I have seen a few different "interpretations" of the data on when this thing will fall - everything from Feb 27 through March 5...Landing in the US through Poland.
I wouldn't want this hitting my homeland, my family's homeland, nor would I want Thill taken out...
Either way, I think the *ONLY* people who know exactly where and when this busted sat will land is Norad...everyone else seems to be guessing...

www.reuters.com...

And look here - if this does crash into your house, the US government will pay for damages...LOL...

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It would be interesting to know where the movers and shakers of the PTB will be located during this time frame.

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I'd really like to know what's on Dr. Lisa Porter's travel itinerary...

Cheers,

Vic