NORTHCOM Ready To Implement Martial Law

Originally posted by dk3000
They are taking away our guns and have been actively doing so en mass since Katrina.

Odd. The Crossroads of the West gun show was just this last weekend. Plenty of vendors selling plenty of guns. All of the local gunsmiths and gun sellers are still in business.

I too was called crazy and given my official tin foil hat when I expressed my theory of Martial Law the day Bush declared war on Iraq. Frankly I am surprised its not official yet and the 2008 election canceled. It is highly likely we will see another 9/11 red flag op in the very near future (most likely April/May 2008) then it will be called and Bush will become dictator.

Well, then I'm going to mark this thread and make sure that when April/May passes and Bush is not declared dictator that you do get called upon to recant.

Implementing a plan for public revolt is already being carried out in Southern California- there have been numerous air patrols and increased police surveillance. Many military craft have been spotted like huge Naval Helicopters in formation flying over downtown.

Meh.

San Diego is a military town. SPAWAR, North Island, Miramar, Coronado and North Island come to mind as places the military tend to hang out. Plenty of Navy and Marine activity there. Lots of guys with high & tight haircuts running around there all the time.

San Diego is near the border, where increased border security is of importance to many.

That you would see military aircraft flying around military bases really isn't all that remarkable. Non-event.

Study the history of Germany from 1928 to 1949 and you will be shocked and amazed at how similar events are.

I have, and there is absolutely no similarity whatsoever. Facists aren't even called facists any more; they're called democrats.

Your pal,
Meat.

Actually I think Fascists go by the name Neo-con with a lot more emphasis on the CON than on the Neo as there is nothing new about what the New Republican nonconservative party is doing to the Constitution. Listen I am not going to put a time frame on anything or try to say that a false flag opp is coming or any thing but watch what happens to our rights as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights " Gone Daddy Gone"
And I think you understood what I was trying to say, In no way did I mean it as personal attack, and if thats how you took I apologize. I thought it was fairly clear that I think a crime has been committed with our rights, but I guess I am jus not smart enough for this site sos I's guessin' I'll justs be moseyin' on down to's the corner crack dealer now so's I wont be haven ta worry 'bout my's rights any more, because the president he will always have my best interests in mind when he makes then executive orders of his I am so sorry if I caused any body any grief

[edit on 2/15/2008 by lostinmadness]

Originally posted by redoubt
The whole thing about martial law is that you are placing a previously (read: nominally) free population under authoritarian rule. This would not be good for business... and make no mistake; it is the corporate that has a large stake in everything that happens.

Walmart, Sony, Exxon-Mobile, AT&T... even McDonald’s would suffer catastrophic losses under such a decree. Even in the event of a major economic depression, a decree of martial law... albeit even a limited one, would be akin to national suicide. Domestic and global markets would collapse overnight, leaving billions in potential profit swinging in the wind of the new police state.

That being said though, the current government could write itself a means to remain in power through some disaster, natural or otherwise, and thus ensure that certain paths are pursued regardless of the people’s will. We may get mad and we may cry bloody murder but we’re not anymore apt to deprive ourselves of our material luxuries than those corporations are going to allow us to be deprived.

In other words, even Thomas Jefferson would be wasting his breath to preach revolution to our modern society. It just ain’t gonna happen.

So... some sort of fudging of the Constitution to cement a certain government is entirely believable. But martial law, barbed-wire checkpoints in front of the neighborhood Walgreens? Nah... I just don’t see it.

Not yet, anyway.

That’s my nickel, for what it’s worth.

...

Thanks! My take is that, before November, there will be another False flag event - don't know what kind, but regardless, we will be told we are "under attack!" As (who was it? Goerring (sp?)?) said, basically, make them think they are under attack and they will do whatever you say it takes to be free...

So even though we fringe folk will see right through things, the masses will freak and BEG to be kept safe as the shadows institute martial law, run over the Constitution rough-shod, and that will be that. King George will be fully in place.

Allow the internet to be controlled and no real discussion about things will be possible, given that the MSM is pretty much fully controlled already, and at this point, the internet is the only free medium.

We will see 1984 before 2012.

reply to post by Amaterasu

Allow the internet to be controlled and no real discussion about things will be possible, given that the MSM is pretty much fully controlled already, and at this point, the internet is the only free medium.

No doubt you will see the internet under "control" sooner rather than later. "Free"...remember, nothing in this life is free, as they say.

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Well... [smile] I meant "free" as in unrestricted, rather than something one has to pay for. We already have to pay for the use of the unrestricted medium. Unless we use the library...

Anyway, I am sure They will have their thumb on the internet far sooner than any of us would like.

reply to post by Amaterasu


I agree with you... it will be soon I believe, just considering the past events and the coincidences pointed out through time, there were extensive training mission going on at the same time as "FFO's"... I am in no way predicting an event, because honestly, we have no idea when the government will decide to implement their action plans... but I found this Article about an Operation that will take place in April very interesting... Beaufort County,NC...

"Though many logistical details of the exercise, code-named "Vigilant Guard," have not been finalized, one thing's for certain -- from April 21 to April 23, northern Beaufort County will be buzzing with activity, according to William Winn Jr., Beaufort County Emergency Management Department director."
www.beaufortgazette.com...

This maybe something to watch, but In my opinion, the Government will not be making any training exercise mistakes again... considering the recent media attention it has had about "False Flag Op's"...

I don't know if this has anything to do with it either but I find that equipping the National Guard with Bio Detection Systems... rather reassuring...

Ohio Guard First to Receive Bio Detection System:
"We were picked because of our strong readiness and our performance at Vigilant Guard (a May 2007 training exercise)," said Brig. Gen. Jack Lee, commander of the 73rd Troop Command. "What it boils down to is the capabilities we can bring to the citizens of Ohio and the United States."

"Whether you have thousands who die or zero depends on your detection ability," Berry said. "...Ohio is now on the forefront of chemical detection and protection."
www.army.mil...

I can't really find anything to do with the Canadian Military, regarding BDS's, other than the following link...
General Dynamics Canada's principal lines of business are:
" CBRN Systems and Products: Primarily focused on the design, development, delivery and support of Bio Detection and Identification systems for the Military and National Governments homeland security requirements;"
and...
"General Dynamics Canada supplies its customers with reliable defence products and services. Recent activities include:

 CH148 Cyclone Maritime Helicopter Mission Systems Integrator and mission equipment provider
 CH148 In-Service Support
 Land Command Support System (LCSS) - Canada
 Bowman Programme – United Kingdom
 Hydra Mission System Integration and Support - Sweden
 NATO AWACS Mid-Term Modernization Program
 CP140 Aurora Incremental Modernization Program Data Management System and Mission Systems Integrator
 JP2072 – Battlespace Communications Systems (LAND) – Australia
 Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles – United States
 ALERT Technology Development Program - Canada R&D
 Light Armoured Vehicles RECCE (LAV-RECCE)
 M1A1 Product Improvement - United States
 Region/Sector Air Operations Centre (R/SAOC) Internal Communications System
 Improved Land Mines Detection System – Canada
 Qualified on Cyber Protection Supply Arrangement (CPSA) – Canada
…
Marketing Strategy: As Canada’s premiere defence company General Dynamics Canada has been instrumental in promoting and exporting Canadian expertise for major defence and security transformation initiatives across North America, the United Kingdom, Australia, as well as NATO. General Dynamics Canada is continuously seeking to develop working relationships and establishing strategic alliances with Canadian companies in the pursuit of this strategic marketing objective.
www.defenceandsecurity.ca...

Please give me your opinions, there have been a few threads here at ATS that have really made me think... this one especially...

reply to post by StoneGarden


i wouldnt worry, i used to be one of the guys that would be using bio detection equip along with all the chem gear we had for advanced detection.

unless of course you believe, like some others, that im a govt agent here on ats, i can tell you again that at least my team was never trained specifically for "martial law"

ps i know you yourself didnt say that but im just clarifying

Let me just bump this old thread to let people know I found new evidence of CONPLAN3502 - please check it out!!

tc.indymedia.org...
National Level Exercise 2011 docs found on Army Corps fileserver prove upgrade for Secret 'Civil Disturbance Operations CONPLAN 3502' the Master Pentagon Blueprint for RNC/G20 Lockdowns, Policing Disasters & More

By Dan Feidt for Twin Cities Indymedia — Digital presentations posted on an Army Corps of Engineers server, about military operations in a giant FEMA-simulated earthquake drill called National Level Exercise 2011, inadvertently reveal crucial new info about another 'Secret' Pentagon plan, Northcom CONPLAN 3502, including the “trigger” for domestic military 'Civil Disturbance Operations.' CONPLAN 3502 and CONPLAN 3501, 'Defense Support of Civil Authorities,' are the two main military plans used to design the Pentagon's 'footprint' at National Special Security Events like the 2008 Republican National Convention.

Exactly as the Pennsylvania National Guard took over the G20 protester jail operation, other docs show 'Secret' CONPLAN 3502 specifically plans for military-operated detention and search operations within our country. In context, the new material is the most troubling I have ever discovered, and proves anew that underneath Constitutional limited government, a more brutal martial framework is secretly, constantly, extending its reach. DHS/FEMA doesn't like it at all when NLEs get publicized so check it out right away. Full URLs below.