NORTHCOM Ready To Implement Martial Law

In a press release, the military command stated that the organization is ready to respond to any homeland defense or civil support mission requirement. Considering that George W. Bush has signed a directive making the President a dictator over continuity of government operations in the case of a catastrophic emergency, any homeland defense or civil support mission requirement would include the implementation of martial law.

(visit the link for the full news article)

The President does not have to sign a "directive" to make himself a "dictator during Martial Law". He is the Commander in Chief, and is thus the Top Leader of all Military Forces. During Martial Law, the U.S. Military takes control of domestic policing, so he would in that sense be in complete control. There is no need for a supposed directive, his command ability and responsibilites already come with the job of President.

[edit on 2-11-2008 by TheAgentNineteen]

For the last 6 years they have been telling us that another "terrorist" attack is "inevitable." Now they're telling us that martial law will be the likely response. I have a feeling that we're going to see another synthetic terror event this year and the election will be suspended. They're just warming us up to the idea.

reply to post by IPCRESS


Ipcress
Many people around here do share your opinion on that. Not saying I agree with them. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. Will also be interesting to see what the people who have said he will stay in office will say when he does leave office.

It seems like its getting closer and closer...also sounds like G.W. is planning something real bad on our turf- Sounds to me maybe he'll attack somewhere, blame it on an al-qiada member that "was a citizen" here then will claim martial law as to "prevent" any other attacks here. Thats my theory. Seems logical. Bound to have some that disagree- but when something does happen...its gonna be bad for all of us...

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You're sure he's smart enough for that? If he really is anything like people are claiming, he's just a pawn for the big guys. There are always certain things that we(Americans) have in the way of insurance policies. I love my insurance policy.

Originally posted by dj05544
It seems like its getting closer and closer...also sounds like G.W. is planning something real bad on our turf- Sounds to me maybe he'll attack somewhere, blame it on an al-qiada member that "was a citizen" here then will claim martial law as to "prevent" any other attacks here. Thats my theory. Seems logical. Bound to have some that disagree- but when something does happen...its gonna be bad for all of us...

This seems to be a close variation of the most popular theory-line.

Here's a question:

Once Dubya initiates this order of martial law (or whatever is close), what is the actual effect on the civilian population?

Notes: Bush is a friend of big business. Any order that locks people in from dusk til dawn, or requires more than a nominal presence of police, deters market trade. Also, businesses will be forced to alter hours so employees are not out after curfew.

It doesn't work, IMO, for a president that owes much of his survivability to the corporate who, in turn, depend on free and unfettered consumerism.

Hope we're all wrong though and in 2008, we get someone new to worry about...

...

reply to post by pluckynoonez


Know what's even scarier than that article?????? The last name of the editor of the media that ran the article. He's a Rothschild!!!! Hello!!!! That family has had political pull since 600ad in freakin ROME. Be very scared! If they say it they intend to do it.

Originally posted by Quazga
Just to clear the air,
The original news article says nothing about martial law.

That was an interpretation by "rogue government"

Thank you for this.

I don't think this even comes close to MARTIAL LAW in the same sense it is implied by the OP.

There is the legitimate question of whether the use of the 'military' in domestic situations is even appropriate. After Katrina, I know what I would have preferred, but the issue is a tough one.

reply to post by mmmeat

U.S. citizens will always have habeas corpus - it's guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.

You are joking, right? The good olde BODY OF EVIDENCE was clearly taken away by the Illustrious P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act. You do realize that right? What with the F.B.I. being able to write it's own search warrants at the time of the search, and now trying to make it illegal to sue big Telecommunications companies for letting the F.B.I. listen in on our "private" conversations, and read our emails and text messages, and postings on forum boards, HABEAS CORPUS - CORPUS DELICTI, what I mean is a crime has been committed with our Constitution, and it seems that there really isn't that much anyone wants to do about it but talk on some forum some where. Make plans to protect your families, friends, neighbors, and people who will have problems protecting themselves; from our Government!!!!!! Sorry I am way off topic from the O.P. Sorry, Thank you for your time.

Originally posted by Shar
reply to post by dgtempe

 

DG,

You know what is weird. Your afraid of Bush and his people and I’m afraid of Clintons and their people.

Weird Huh.

Doesn't matter which party is in office both sides have been bought and paid for long before they get into office. Who do you think pays the hundreds of millions of dollars to get them elected in the first place?

After some group foots a big campaign bill and more do you think they are not going to call in favors, when whatever side gets into office?

You are both right both sides should be feared because they both get there money from the same group.

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I disagree. The writ of habeas corpus may be suspended in cases of rebellion or invasion. here is the link to the constitution online:www.usconstitution.net...

All Bush would have to do is declare groups of arrested people or individuals as enemy combatants and ship them off to the nearest FEMA camp.ANY person can be declared an enemy combatant, even Americans.Read the Military Commissions Act.

Bush has turned America into an isolationist country.Lately in Canada I've heard radio ads telling us what we need to travel to the U.S.
Many people here including myself will not travel to the U.S. because of this.

The U.S. of A. is in a recession.The housing market is crumbling and the dollar is on the slide.

To Bush, the Constitution is just a G**damned piece of paper.
He has no concern for the American people,his brothers and sisters.Years ago a leader like this would have been taken out by one mean or another and I'm beside myself that he remains at the helm.

Sadly, what the leader of a country does reflects on an entire nation.
If anything disastrous does happen between now and the election, I would predict it will be before November and would be on a much larger scale than 9/11,sending the country into a complete lockdown.

This of course is my own opinion based on many articles I've read over the last year and a half.

I've been saying this since Bush declared himself a "wartime president"... everything the man is doing points directly at one thing... he isn't going to leave office willingly.

I keep trying to tell myself no-one would be crazy enough to declare dictatorship in the United States... but everything he passes or attempts to pass points straight at dictatorship.

The sad part is, the entire country could so easily slip into dictatorship now, and not a single person will do anything about it. They're way too complacent now.

Which spells one thing. Assassination. Anyone who does want to stand up against this will have to do it secretly. The only outcome I can foresee is assassination. I think it's in Bush's best interests, to just back down quietly.

Great, so something happens, Martial Law kicks in, and they are ready to kill American Citizens on command.

Should we believe them? Or is is this level of readiness FEMA-ready?

If they can do what they say, I am not pleased to say the least. Constitution toilet paper...

Treating us like possible criminals is a sure fire way to prevent crime if you ask me. Do what we say, or we shoot you in the head. Sheesh.

DocMoreau

I just wanted to add that anyone interested in the topic of Martial Law should definitely use the search function to learn more about the possibilities and scenarios - there are many great threads about it on ATS.

Originally posted by ATruGod
Thats the really scary part. Its one thing to use Reserve troops and such (not that thats even close to Ok) but to actually be training spefic troops tailored for domestic reponse.....SCARY!!

well, for what its worth, until july 12, 2002 i WAS one of those troops. i was part of a WMD terrorism response team in the midwest and we trained to respond in case of a chem/bio/radiological attack...

would it disappoint some of you to know that during the whole time i was with that team nothing about martial law was ever even implied?

there are some of us out there who REALLY did sign up JUST SO WE COULD TRY TO PROTECT OUR FRIENDS/FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS

i know its hard to believe but its true.

I'd hate to be one of these lackeys on a short string.

yeah, i dont even know what to say to something like that but i guess i dotn have to. ive been called a govt disinfo plant here on ats more times than i can count so why stop now?


heres what i want to know, and this is for anyone out there. IF martial law is declared and we're all carted off to the fema death camps....how's the economy of the US and for that matter the whole world going to recover?

sure they can enslave us to produce the goods and services we already provide and make us do it for free...but who's going to be buying all the SUV's and Plasma TV's then?

martial law makes no sense if you really think about it. they'd much rather we were all fat dumb and happy and believing we were free so that we all keep going to work and spending our paychecks on crap we dont need and cant afford. that keeps us in debt and working to get out of debt while capital one keeps making billions off the interest for the crap we charged cuz we couldnt afford to pay cash

but thats just me and im really medicated so have fun

Originally posted by palehorse23


As the article states, this is an alarming development IMO. The way these things are stated makes it feel like it is going to happen real soon. There are so many things that seem to be signs of martial law being implemented. The only problem I see is that we don't have to troops to do so. But, according to NORTHCOM, we are prepared for anything.

www.roguegovernment.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

palehorse, there are plenty of U.N. troops stationed above and mostly below ground in the 125 deep underground secret bases in the U.S. Since the powers that be know it would be hard for all our own troops to fire upon the U.S. mass population. The U.N. troops would do the dirty work and you already know we are one of the most envied and disliked nations on the face of this Earth. Rik Riley

There seems to be a great deal of confusion about martial law and the writ of habeas corpus. I am not an attorney but the constitution does not seem to me to be that diffult to understand.
www.usconstitution.net...

The difficulty comes from the interpretations of the constitution that you get colored by someones else's bias and agendas. Go to the original:

In strict dictionary terms, martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority. When we say a region or country is "under martial law," we mean to say that the military is in control of the area, that it acts as the police, as the courts, as the legislature. The degree of control might vary - a nation may have a civilian legislature but have the courts administered by the military. Or the legislature and courts may operate under civilian control with a military ruler. In each case, martial law is in effect, even if it is not called "martial law."

Martial law should not be confused with military justice. In the United States, for example, each branch of the military has its own judicial structures in place. Members of the service are under the control of military law, and in some cases civilians working for or with the military may be subject to military law. But this is the normal course of business in the military. Martial law is the exception to the rule. In the United States, the military courts were created by the Congress, and cases can be appealed out of the military system to the Supreme Court in many cases. In addition, a civilian court can petition the military for habeas corpus.

Article 1, Section 9 states, "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." Habeas corpus is a concept of law, in which a person may not be held by the government without a valid reason for being held. A writ of habeas corpus can be issued by a court upon a government agency (such as a police force or the military). Such a writ compels the agency to produce the individual to the court, and to convince the court that the person is being reasonably held. The suspension of habeas corpus allows an agency to hold a person without a charge. Suspension of habeas corpus is often equated with martial law.

Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon himself to declare martial law. In these times, Congress may decide not to act, effectively accepting martial law by failing to stop it; Congress may agree to the declaration, putting the official stamp of approval on the declaration; or it can reject the President's imposition of martial law, which could set up a power struggle between the Congress and the Executive that only the Judiciary would be able to resolve.

In the United States, there is precedent for martial law. Several times in the course of our history, martial law of varying degrees has been declared. The most obvious and often-cited example was when President Lincoln declared martial law during the Civil War. This instance provides us with most of the rules for martial law that we would use today, should the need arise.

For activating the militia:www.usconstitution.net...

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

The patriot act does not suspend the constitution.

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On paper the Patriot Act appears to not circumvent the Constitution, but in reality I believe different remember as we all know it is not what they say or do and this includes what has been printed, it is what the powers that be actually do. Rik Riley



[edit on 11-2-2008 by rikriley]

Originally posted by kerontehe
I disagree. The writ of habeas corpus may be suspended in cases of rebellion or invasion. here is the link to the constitution online:www.usconstitution.net...

Disagree all you want to, but the U.S. Constitution is pretty clear.

As i stated before, there are several varying levels of martial law and it is only declared in the specific areas being affected and for a definite period of time or conditions.

As the history of martial law in the USA points out though, it is seldom ever used without controversy and disagreement.

...and, gee - what a surprise - habeas corpus has held up. Court cases are pretty clear.

Sheesh.

Your pal,
Meat.

Heres one theory I have:
McCain and Clinton are in with the Bilderbergs and all the elite powers that be.
Should Obama win the democratic nomination, it is not what they have planned on.

Thats when the crap its the fan.
Possibilities include:

1- Terrorist act put into action, suspension of elections ie. martial law.
or
2- Assassination which leads to civil unrest and possible riots that lead to martial law.
or
3- Assassination which leads to VP that was stealthfully incorporated into Obama`s administration becoming president thus allowing plans to facilitate as expected by the powers that be.

In the end, the ones with the plans for all will never waiver in their goal for complete global domination for their own selfish lusts.