Life on the other side of the fence

This is the closest to the things what were running around the craft but they were crouched almost like dogs on all fours. They were too fast to be anything that I am aware of in this country.

The lights from he craft following them arround like a strobe so that made them look even faster. We though about the fact this could of been some wind up to scare people becasue the area is known for alien activity.

However there is no way anyone (Unles they are a film special FX person) could pull this sort of thing off. Yes I run away becasue I was so scared, Infact I was so scared It I froze thinking ruuuuuuuuun so was my freind.

What scared us even more and convinced us even more this was alien was the fact when we turned back after running to the bottom of the moor and it was at least a 1 1/2 miles away from where it was.

As for the craft I could not make out any detail becasue of the lights the things running around the lights just lit up and you could see the black of there eyes.

We though about every possible thing that it could have been eg.... Search party looking for sombody with flash lights... Some cult or something... Practical joke....

Never seen anything move so fast....


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Since that event I feel I am being watched and even being comunicated to.

I had the chance and I was too scared, Since then I have always though what if I would have walked over would that of changed what I understand now or would they have shanked my head off. I will never know if these were good / bad. I feel these are the same beings in contact with me but how would know.

Maybe I have seen them and didn't accept what I saw and now I have to wait again. I don't know, The answer is within me I just can't work out how to get to the next step.

How would I even know if I have been abducted, what if they only let the mentaly strong remember. I have had 2 points in my life where I have lost 2 hours of time and the second 10 hours of time. I could not even ask anyone "Hey was I at work today" or ask my parents "What did I do today" insted I just kept it bottled up thinking this can not be happening.

The time I lost 2 hours I was at work and just come off a break. Got back to work and then within a split second of sitting down I heard "Dinner time lads" And that was 2 hours later I was just speechless. There were other people in the same room as me and I can't imagine that I fell asleep or daydreaming becasue sombody would have kicked my ass and told me to work.

The 10 hour time loss was very recent, I woke up on a Thusday morning, lost 10 hours or maybe even more remember being on here that Night but can not remember the whole day I was at work. Didn't even notice until the Friday morning when it was like OMG what just happened. I realized I just skipped Thursday day...

there could be come logical explanation so I am all ears.... I have no medical problems that I know of that could relate to this. I drive for a living so if I just fall asleep at ranom I would not be here posting this.

So yes I want answers, If somthing wants to contact me why the smoke screen. I am not going to hurt them as much as they are not going to hurt me. Yes I do want this to happen becasue I want answers.




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They contact me mainly through meditation when I go into a trance state. A physical contact from what I know appies in 2 scenarions. 1) they will contact you face to face so they can show you what your seeing does exist and to "calm you down" in a sense or 2) something of great importance is to be told and face to face is a must so the messages mentally transmitted cant be muddled. That may not go for everyone but thats pretty much how it works for me.

It would be good to hear of how anyone else gets contacted, id be very interested to see the differences or maybe similarities.

Fire away

reply to post by psycho81


If you feel like your being watched than they want you to make the next step and that is communing with them. First you have to acknowledge they are there by speaking out loud or through mental communicating. Don't be aggressive because that will put them off, these beings ask the same respect that you would give any person. Its their test to see how you cope with the realization that you have seen them.

Say this mentally or out loud: I mean you know harm and welcome your presence and am grateful that you have chose me to be a messenger for your race. I am ready to receive any information you wish to give to me and trust that through you wise knowledge it would be a great benefit. My fears are gone and I accept your presence as truth and fact. Enlighten me with your knowledge to help me gain and understand a better perspective of the life I live and to help others like myself, and to know I am not alone.

Try it mentally and verbally. You have to mean it and your fears have to be gone. Once they know you meet their "criteria" they will move forward and give you knowledge. You have already seen them face to face so they know you have seen them. They may appear again face to face or give you information through your mind. You will feel a presence and tingling so that normal.

Let us know what happens I am sure everyone else is as excited about it as I am.

Yes I would too, It's hard for me at the moment because half the time I am trying to work out if I was or not abducted at some point.

This is my problem this may sound strange but this is worrying me a little.

Ok we know we are in communicaton with some "Good" beings, and we Also know we are probs in comunication with the "Bad" beings. There is Dark for every Light.

I think there could be every chance that the "Bad beings" could play with our mind a lot more because they could use there telepathic knowhow and add a little hint of evil.

So what if we have this the wrong way around?

What if where being made to believe these are the "Good" guys but really the "Good" guys are getting pushed away and forgoten about?

No belief... No Power, if nobody believed in God how would we ever know he existed.

Then again its just a feeling I get sometimes.

Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by psycho81

 

If you feel like your being watched than they want you to make the next step and that is communing with them. First you have to acknowledge they are there by speaking out loud or through mental communicating. Don't be aggressive because that will put them off, these beings ask the same respect that you would give any person. Its their test to see how you cope with the realization that you have seen them.

Say this mentally or out loud: I mean you know harm and welcome your presence and am grateful that you have chose me to be a messenger for your race. I am ready to receive any information you wish to give to me and trust that through you wise knowledge it would be a great benefit. My fears are gone and I accept your presence as truth and fact. Enlighten me with your knowledge to help me gain and understand a better perspective of the life I live and to help others like myself, and to know I am not alone.

Try it mentally and verbally. You have to mean it and your fears have to be gone. Once they know you meet their "criteria" they will move forward and give you knowledge. You have already seen them face to face so they know you have seen them. They may appear again face to face or give you information through your mind. You will feel a presence and tingling so that normal.

Let us know what happens I am sure everyone else is as excited about it as I am.

That calmed me in a way I can not describe just by reading that. Will remember that thanks. Strange world we live in eh? just on the UK Local radio today I hear a voice on the radio "UFO sightings in Britain have risen from 40% in 2006 to 60% 2007" or something on them lines and that voice I can feel made me smile. Very strange feeling but warm.

It's a compex way of understanding what is behind the blanket they put over your eyes in life. There is so much energy in a person that once they can send out strong signals from there presence they can see a whole new meaning.

I think if you break that barrier of belief you see both spirit and alien dimensions as one.

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Ahhh see you feel calmer. Good for you

In communication I just literally act like an antenna I send and receive signals and some get answered and some done. Once you break the barrier it becomes natural to be able to pull things from this stream of information and work things out. Just like what I told you to say, that wasn't coming from me it received it from a stream of information. I wouldn't know what dimension these beings come from, obviously it another one but where I don't know. I think aliens are a lot closer than what we think, I don't think they live trillions of light-years away.

Usually the good aliens will want to be there and help you understand things a lot better and help others come out of there shell just like Im trying to do. Im trying to wake people to the fact that alot more than just daily lives are being lived. And mostly to awaken people like yourself and others to whats going on and to tune into the stream so they can prepare for any changes.

I know in myself evil aliens wouldnt be helping me change people like this, helping people come out of the dark and connecting with them instead of being segregated and alone. Thats what this process is all about its about awakening those who have had contact with any sort of alien to know there is support and their is help and it right here if they need it.

All they have to do Is come forward and ask.

Man I should be a motivational talker. What we are all doing is connecting on a level never before seen. This is the first global support group ever formed and we are seing it here with our own eyes

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Originally posted by Drakiir

"And you have to know its taken years for me to learn all this information you have to make an effort and research things for yourself."

I hope you understand why this sentence stands out for me.
After reading through this thread, and seeing how it appears you have certain support here from a relatively new member, I have to question whether you did not just do a fair amount of research on the subject and are posting or "posing" as an abductee. You are saying research things for yourself. Yet you want us to believe what you are giving us on a silver platter, which is basically yesterdays meatloaf as far as info goes.We have seen this before, complete with the official appearance of a thread "sidekick". Iam not trying to be rude. Iam not demanding pics . What Iam demanding is that if you are trolling, please stop.
We take this topic seriously here. Quite frankly, as this thread goes on, I see more holes than swiss cheese and it's starting to smell like limburger.

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Yes it has taken years for me to learn this but I have not done it without help. I gave the link and information and its up to you to see the connection. There are connections all over the internet to what I am saying, you just have to find them. Unless Im expected to hand all the answers over on a silver platter.

If its "yesterdays meatloaf" than you are not looking hard enough. And a sidekick, go through the post, that issue has already been resolved. And you have two stars how did you get those?

That indicates support and that means there are other people reading through this that also doubt me. Well if they do than thats there view but just try and tell all the other people who I and others on here have helped, that these holes you see are there. Because I sure as hell don't see any and I don't think anyone else on here who are helping each other do either.

Let me know when you connect with someone on the other side of the globe youve never met before and has been through the same personal events as you.

Apparently its ok for you to call to imply that I am a fraud but that means you are telling everyone on here the same message.

Maybe you dont want to see what we are doing because you doubt it so much, and please tell me about your alien encounter we are all interested to know.

its a strange question maybe, but did anyone of you hear the song "smack my bitch up" in the last 24 hours...?

my problem is, that i still cant really believe all thats happening to me, i am not fully accepting it, which is, i believe, preventing me from stepping further on. what im talking about is like the puking neo after some time on the ship. (no, i dont feel like neo, its just a comparison! :lol

i dont know how i would react, if i saw the being again. but i think i´d be very scared, although the first time it wasnt really so bad. its really hard to imagine looking at another living and thinking being you never saw before, that is invisible and possibly around you all the time.

it really does drive me crazy from time to time, because i feel like i have no identity at all, this all questions our personal identity. and what does that mean, human identity?

drakiir, can you elaborate the link(s) you talk about and frequencies? i feel like i have not understood yet.

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You have to relax and calm down your body will adjust to it. Sometimes the mind can exaggerate situations emensly and causes you to panic. This can leas to you feeling queezy as yo do this is from the uneasyness. So just calm down and relax.

Yeah its completely understandable I sometimes get freaked by it as well but your mind makes it worse than what it is like you said. I was scared, no petrified at first when I realised I was on a ship and these aliens were looking down at me, but admittedly it was there telepathic voice that calmed me down. It was gentle and soothing and relaxed me to such a point I wasnt worried anymore. They are around you but on a different plane.

Just like spirits of dead people, if you go to google and type in spirit orbs you can see them all around the place. Its like hundreds of golf balls its quite an amazing site to see, there usually taken at night with a flash. These entities are no different except they are on a different plane. Maybe they cant actually see you untill you require them or they decide to come to you, Im not entirely sure.

One thing to note when I say monitored i dont mean physically looked over, I mean the freqencies you emit are monitored and if you reach a freqency that "calls" them they can appear and tell you things you want to know, or vice versa.

The link I provided is to show that every freqency your body emits can be "tuned into" by any force. To raise these frequencies to higher levels you have to meditate and the higher the frequency the more understanding and clarity you will get. Think of it this way when you tune a radio you go for the best frequency there is through filtering out the static. Thats the same for you, you have to take out the static and noise and tune into the right signal to achieve clarity.

I hope this has helped out and if you need extra assistance hey man thats what were here for. God my posts are getting long I don't want to hog space so Il have to shorten them, sorry guys.

Good luck with your tuning.

Drakiir first of all thank you and I mean that.

Last night I saw not an alien but some type of energy, As I said I was going to try meditate and try to fine tune my mind so its more open. Well normaly I stand at my window but last night I laid on my bed. I laid on my back so I could see anything if it appeared.

Started off pretty normal then I got that Voice of feeling telling me to keep calm and I was doing very well and not to be scared. The whole fear went until I was looking around in the dark with confidence thinking "I am not scared I am a part of this"

As I said I saw some type of energy, Not like the faint lights I saw before becasue that was just my eyes playing tricks with me. This was different, These were lights highlighting the shape of my room. There were all kinds of relaxing colors eg. purple, red, blue. I don't think my body froze this time but it was relaxed so I did not try to move.

The feeling I was getting was amazing. Everything around me like objects in my room were not there it was like I was floating in mid air being kept up by some light.

The best thing about this experiance was the sound, It was such a nice meditating frequency it was like I was being recharged, Thats the only way to describe it.

At one point it was like they were all around me even though I could not see them.

Once again Thank You I feel I can do this in a much more natural way now.
I sort of though "See beyond what you are seeing now" I didn't ask what I wanted to see I just let it happen and what I saw I accepted it.

Anyone who thinks I am on here seeking attention "Thanks" but I am far from seeking attention I am seeking something totaly amazing

I know what I saw and I am so happy to be a part of it I feel like a new person for the better.

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As I now understand now, Don't want it to happen open your mind and let it happen. You need to be in a mood where you can block everything and I mean everything out of your mind.

Go with the flow so to speak, Most important thing is don't fear it becasue it will not happen. Once you get to a certain point the voice will take away the fear. Not like sombody talking to you or when you think to your self. This voice is unique becasue you can feel it within yourself.

Try some of the meditating methods posted in this topic they really do work trust me. Now the contacted are communicating this is reaching a whole new level.

I now await with patience for the next step, When they want to contact me then they will contact me I now understand that but meditating makes is easier for when you want to contact them.

Originally posted by cometa
its a strange question maybe, but did anyone of you hear the song "smack my bitch up" in the last 24 hours...?




Im sorry I don t understand the question. What relevance does this song have ?

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reply to post by psycho81


I know what I saw and I am so happy to be a part of it I feel like a new person for the better.

Bang you hit the nail right on the head man, and to let you know that is exactly how I felt when I had my encounter the first and second time and makes you feel like a million bucks. And your eyes get opened to a new way of life, your thought processes change, you understand things better and that just the starters. Your whole life is going to change so much and I hope that these experiences help develop yourself even more as a person.

Oh man I don't know what to say, its so awesome to hear this. And right here in-front of all these people and with support you got your first alien encounter how awesome is that. Lifes going to get real easy for you, and remember keep those frequencies up and the focus strong and youll feel like your walking on air, on top of the world.

You are seeking the very core of life the main thing that makes life go around in circles and you will find it. Filter the noise and focus on the signal, then oh man then youll see the very essence of life itself and the signal will be as clear as day. Nothing will be a challenge there will be no mystery everything will explain itself.

Send me a u2u and I give you some guidance. You did it hahaha

Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by psycho81

 

I am ready to receive any information you wish to give to me and trust that through you wise knowledge it would be a great benefit..........and I accept your presence as truth and fact. Enlighten me with your knowledge to help me gain and understand a better perspective of the life I live and to help others like myself.......

hi,
just a couple of questions if you could find the time please Drakiir , what information do or have you received during contact, and how does this relate to your activities of daily living. What truth and facts can you share with the folk on ATS. The knowledge to understand a better perspective of the life we live......and help others, can you discuss this philosophy further from your contacts/alien perspective and besides your post on ATS, to what lengths have you gone to spread this knowledge.
thanks.

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what information do or have you received during contact, and how does this relate to your activities of daily living. What truth and facts can you share with the folk on ATS.

First Id would like to say good question and a sensible one too, unlike some previous posters who think Im a Intergalactic Encyclopedia, so thanks for that.

Anyway on the the questions. Well the message varies from person to person depending on your entire life structure meaning personality, genetics, beliefs all those things. Essentially who you are as a person is an evaluation of what "message" you will get. My message at the moment is to unite people who have shared the same experience so we can gain an understanding of how each person is progressing.

Some people get messages like help earth improve any way you can or well do it for you. These are the domineering type of beings, there are good and bad. The good want to help people gain new levels of life, the bad want total control and to enforce there laws and way of life upon us. As for daily activities and living well for me personally everything is really on the next level mainly by tuning my body and mind into different aspects of life.

Imagine it this way. When you walk through a crowd of people you have to watch you don't trip or hit anyone and find a way through them to get where you want. Now imagine where you walk through that same crowd by walking the way no one walks, straight through without even looking and with a continued pace. You have just filtered out all the unnecessary signals (people) to get from point a to point b and not only that but you found a direct way around a common problem. Now magnify that in every event or situation in you life and thats what its like.

I am trying as hard as possible to spread the message to people like myself that we have to come out of the dark and be recognized. Some contactees and abductees live very secluded lives and Im trying to encourage them to come out of there shell. There are other people here who have been through similar things and we are here to help them in any way we can.

I and others are trying to unite them, because people have to understand they have been riducued all there lives and now that changes. The ridicule and torment stops as of when they get on this thread and tell us there experience. These people have the pieces of the puzzle they just need to be put together.

Thank you for you're reply Drakiir,
If you don't mind I have a few more for you to help me understand you and your experiences.

Originally posted by Drakiir


Anyway on the the questions. Well the message varies from person to person depending on your entire life structure meaning personality, genetics, beliefs all those things. Essentially who you are as a person is an evaluation of what "message" you will get. My message at the moment is to unite people who have shared the same experience so we can gain an understanding of how each person is progressing.

You say the message varies depending on the individual, have you deducted this by comparing your contact experiences with those of others. And, if so, are there messages from the same source. If these messages are an evaluation of you personally, what value do you think you bring to this alien culture( via your link) that others here on earth cannot.
Also, when you say your message at the moment is to help "gain an understanding of how each person is progressing". To what end are they progressing and why have your Alien contacts left this up to you and not monitored these individuals themselves.

Some people get messages like help earth improve any way you can or we'll do it for you. These are the domineering type of beings, there are good and bad. The good want to help people gain new levels of life, the bad want total control and to enforce there laws and way of life upon us.

In saying this, have you experiences where you were forced to change aspects of your life. I find this is quite an alarming statement that there are "bad" factions that just want control. Why is it Drakiir, that we have not seen major intervention in our lives by these superior beings given the state of the world? Why is contact not more mainstream given the altruistic nature of the "good" aliens....Surely we need only fear ourselves more than any others at this point in our history?

As for daily activities and living well for me personally everything is really on the next level mainly by tuning my body and mind into different aspects of life.

Imagine it this way. When you walk through a crowd of people you have to watch you don't trip or hit anyone and find a way through them to get where you want. Now imagine where you walk through that same crowd by walking the way no one walks, straight through without even looking and with a continued pace. You have just filtered out all the unnecessary signals (people) to get from point a to point b and not only that but you found a direct way around a common problem. Now magnify that in every event or situation in you life and thats what its like.

I am sorry to say this Drakiir.....but given that you are in contact with a superior life force and given as beautiful a gift as the one you claim i was hoping for some far better insight and understanding into your situation than negotiating crowds without trouble, not to sound condescending but I do what you describe everyday.

I am trying as hard as possible to spread the message to people like myself that we have to come out of the dark and be recognized. Some contactees and abductees live very secluded lives and Im trying to encourage them to come out of there shell. There are other people here who have been through similar things and we are here to help them in any way we can.

i applaud you for this as I have follow your thread and you have been very stoic in the face of a lot of hostility. You have been very persistent in trying to get your story through
One last question, I noticed you have updated Avatar and your quotes in signature too, in which you reference HCR. I believe you have brought up body frequencies and other HCR etc. in your posts. I also noticed that the ideaology of HCR only crept into our posts after members Paul_Richard and Darcon brought it up in the thread. How do you explain this. Thanks again




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The experiences they have can vary many times but its what specific events happen, when they happen and what they see, these factors all come into account. As to each individual person well they are completely anonymous to me but, its the experiences are what connects us and its more figuring out the connections and similarities, not necessarily comparing them.

I can bring foresight and clarity to people whereas normally they would be stuck in the "circle of life" together with monotony and need for new things the usual life is limited to what job they are in, how many friends they have, materialistic things stuff like that. I reverse it I disconnect from the usual day to day life and try to look deeper into the existence of life, instead of what I can achieve in life. Everything dominoes, everything connects I figure out the connections others just let them pass by.

It turns into a life of just knowing is the only way to describe it, of course its different levels for everyone. Imagine of you knew when the bus was coming without a watch, knowing how many people would get off at a certain bus stop, knowing when the rain will stop to the last drop, knowing whats going to be on tv with no guide, knowing what people say before they say it (face to face only), knowing when it gets cloudy and on and on. These events in everyday life work on a domino effect and I tap into them more and more everyday, life actually starts to get boring its like theres no challenge anymore.

We are guided to each other by alien beings themselves that why we are all connecting together the way we are, like I said we are anonymous to each other but yet have one thing in common and that connection. Aleins cant do everything for me I have to learn myself, they will guide me but thats as much help as I get, usually in emergencies do they appear face to face with me.

My life has completely morphed into something I never thought possible, sure they are downfalls but the good far outweighs it. The crowd example was a metaphor sorry should of put than in. We will not see major intervention until the world is ready and just before you say we are look at these posts. I gave people the truth through the links I provided and how many of them understood or didn't want to understand. 20000 plus people have viewed this thread and around 600 have replied with half of that being full of insults and doubt. Believe me we are far from ready, very far from it.

Ask yourself this, based on the posts in this thread. If aliens came down tomorrow and announced they exist and are going to help us how many would welcome them with open arms?

I can bring foresight and clarity to people whereas normally they would be stuck in the "circle of life" together with monotony and need for new things the usual life is limited to what job they are in, how many friends they have, materialistic things stuff like that. I reverse it I disconnect from the usual day to day life and try to look deeper into the existence of life, instead of what I can achieve in life. Everything dominoes, everything connects I figure out the connections others just let them pass by.

I think you fail to give people credit, people aren't just their job, cars etc......I think people are genuinely curious about life, life outside of our own existence be that alien or spiritual and that people have been curious for thousands of years, just look at civilisation past. And take this site for example.

life actually starts to get boring its like theres no challenge anymore.

I will now say that I don't believe you or the things you say. But I believe you believe it and you have every right to. Your last couple of comments say to me you that you have no connection with anything other than the idea that you are somehow operating on a different level to us and you understand it all, see all the connections etc. yet you easily dismiss people as one dimensional materialist. The only knowledge you seem to share is how superior you are, how amazing your world is. You have shared nothing, given little and proven nought. I am very disappointed to say the least. If it is true that you have been chosen as a messenger because these beings think we are not ready than why give you all this ability and knowledge so you can sit on ATS and spew your claims in a poorly formed, poorly articulated fantasy that often contradicts itself, as your thread does. How are you helping anyone. And dude, you can't even spell. But I guess you saw this coming like the last of the last rain drops. One last question Does Hawaii mean anything to you . Honolulu perhaps. Just fishing for something real...that is all.
Thanks again for replying, I hope you take my thoughrs as a sincere search for the truth as i know it can quite often be subjective and one mans " contactee with amazing knowledge and ability that finds it too boring at times that there is no challenge" is another mans " excessive attention seeker with massive delusions of grandeur". good luck in your travels



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