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Asteroid 2007 TU24 has NASA concerned.

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posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 11:48 PM
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Could you provide a link please?



posted on Jan, 21 2008 @ 11:53 PM
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New linkage.... From Yahoo! of all places.

answers.yahoo.com...

Might be one to watch.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:12 AM
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I found an interesting link with quite a bit of info. Someone may have posted by now, but reason.jpl.nasa.gov... It is defined as a miss in this report, with another close approach in 2046.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:22 AM
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WEll don't you know thats all changed...
Goldstone has decided to shut down for repairs and ariecebo will not be able to view it from its position...



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by antar
Can you tell me why all of the links take you to the same diagram of TU24 on your link?

I don’t know, it doesn't do that for me.

Originally posted by antar
however what do you think about some of the evidence discussed here regarding the hush hush?

I don’t think its hush-hush, I think its just a big nothing and they are not worried about it, so they are not concerned with putting up new data at break neck speed. Besides this, if you know much about both the astronomy and NASA crowd, neither tend to do things until they are 100% positive that the data is as correct as possible.

Originally posted by antar
If there is no risk then why not be discussing one of the most amazing asteroid passes in public memory?

Because its not going to be anything amazing. Only a few astronomy buffs will probably even try and spot it. Its nothing compared to events like this in the last few years:

The largest asteroid ever known to pass near Earth is making a close celestial brush with the planet this week in an event that professional and backyard astronomers are watching closely.
The space rock, named Toutatis, will not hit Earth, despite rumors of possible doom that have circulated the Internet for months. Humanity is very fortunate there won't be an impact, as the asteroid is large enough to cause global devastation. Toutatis is about 2.9 miles long and 1.5 miles wide (4.6 by 2.4 kilometers).
On Wednesday, Sept. 29 it will be within a million miles of Earth, or about four times the distance to the Moon.
No space rock this big will pass so close in the next century, scientists say. And while similarly large asteroids have hit the planet in the distant past, none so big have come so close since astronomers have had the means to notice them. Many smaller space rocks have been spotted much closer, even inside the orbit of the Moon.

When Toutatis passed us at 4LD, only 2.6 LD further out, and a much larger asteroid.

Originally posted by antar
Why not invite the GP to the observatories like when Hale Bop passed or any of the other great past events?

Again because I don’t think they find it to be a big deal.

Originally posted by antar
And why would some of the leading observatories be shutting down during this time?

They close for maintenance all the time, it might just be a coincidence. I don’t find two observatories out of hundreds to be a vast conspiracy

Originally posted by antar
OK granted we may not be in danger of a direct hit, but something is 'possibly' going to interrupt satellite and electronics if they choose to miss this opportunity to view this huge unexpected event for 'maintenance'..

I am not sure what you mean about this, I must have missed something. Can you clarify?



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:30 AM
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the bad astronomer's take on this:

www.badastronomy.com...



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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Has anyone noticed anything about that cached page from google that was posted earlier... i was just browsing down and i noticed this


UTC Dist. # SNR/ SNR/
start date window RA Dec (AU) runs day run
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2008 Jan 20-21 21:10-03:13 5 -20 0.044 204 91 7
2008 Jan 21-22 21:04-03:13 6 -19 0.039 231 150 11
2008 Jan 22-23 20:57-03:15 6 -18 0.034 265 270 18
2008 Jan 23-24 20:50-03:19 7 -17 0.029 311 530 33 X-band monostatic
2008 Jan 24-25 20:41-03:25 7 -16 0.023 376 1200 68
2008 Jan 25-26 20:30-03:37 8 -13 0.018 473 3300 170
2008 Jan 26-27 20:15-03:59 9 -8 0.013 634 13000 560
2008 Jan 27-28 19:52-04:53 13 2 0.008 700 79000 3200
2008 Jan 28 19:12-14:49 26 39 0.004 700 852000 35000
2008 Jan 30 01:47-17:14 167 54 0.007 700 133000 5500
2008 Jan 31 04:32-17:04 177 41 0.012 700 20000 820
2008 Feb 01 05:01-16:56 179 35 0.017 700 5600 230
2008 Feb 02 05:12-16:50 181 32 0.022 676 2100 89
2008 Feb 03 05:16-16:44 181 31 0.027 570 930 42
2008 Feb 04 05:18-16:39 182 29 0.033 493 470 23
2008 Feb 05 05:18-16:34 182 29 0.038 435 260 14
2008 Feb 06 05:16-16:29 182 28 0.043 389 160 9
2008 Feb 07 05:14-16:25 182 27 0.048 351 98 6

Goldstone DSS-14 will be offline for maintenance from Jan. 25-Feb. 15.


I have bolded Jan 28... correct me if im wrong but 0.004 is really close isnt it?

oh and for the astronomers going on holiday read just above. the DDS-14 will be down for "maintinance" over the time it passes... how convienient...

heres the link to that page again. Saves running through all the posts to find it.


Removed Google Page by Nasa



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:38 AM
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I'm just finding it odd that the Asteroid TU24 was removed from the NEO JPL impact risk page and put into their "list of removed objects" section as of
2007-12-04 14:05... neo.jpl.nasa.gov...

Considering it is the closest of all objects to pass at LD 1.4, as its stands right now, and that they've updated their page today, why hasn't a "concerned" NASA not made an effort publicly?

I for one would appreciate a little concern.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:48 AM
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Phil Platt of Bad Astronomy added a new Blog because of the stir that this rumor has started, here is a quote and link to the blog:

Repeat after me “Asteroid 2007 TU24 is no danger to the Earth”
Hey, remember my slapping down a video that was full of baloney about asteroid TU24?
Well, there is more of that garbage floating around You Tube, this time from user "TU24dotORG". The video in question is full of what I can politely call inaccuracies. The basic premise is that this asteroid, which will pass our planet by quite some distance on January 29, may cause all kinds of havoc on Earth. Why? Well, because they say so.
For example, it says,
Although the chances of a direct impact with Earth are very minimal, truth is we don’t know much about TU24.
"Very minimal" overstates it. The chances are essentially 0. It’ll miss us by hundreds of thousands of kilometers.
But that’s not the point of that part of the video; the creator is trying to promote fear by saying astronomers don’t understand the asteroid. The next part of the video points out a few things about the asteroid we don’t know yet, like the asteroid’s pole direction, its rotation period, the light curve amplitude, and the spectral class.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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The man from BA AGAIN, THANK GOD!!>?!?!?!

yeah sarcasm rocks....

another self proclaimed sceptic who hangs from nasa's every word.

Bad Astronamy - The One Man Forum!


FOE!


[edit on 22-1-2008 by judasfish]



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:11 AM
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"I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way."- Phil Plait

he better aim towards that giant pebble from space coming,.


Seriously Defcon5 no offense, but at this moment it seems that no one knows exactly whats to happen, im on your side i hope it doesn't happen either, but the reality is that a giant rock is in very near proximity to our earth at those dates and people have a right to be concerned for their well being, it's the smart thing to do.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:18 AM
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I am now wondering why there aren't more people interested in astronomy and this type of thing reporting or just saying something on this ?
Surely there are alot more amateur and/or experienced scientists, astronomers etc... following this if it is indeed something to cause concern ?

NASA can't be the be all and end all for information surely?



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by ImJaded

I am now wondering why there aren't more people interested in astronomy and this type of thing reporting or just saying something on this ?
Surely there are alot more amateur and/or experienced scientists, astronomers etc... following this if it is indeed something to cause concern ?

NASA can't be the be all and end all for information surely?



Thats true.

surely there is some people following this with their own evidence?
and does anyone know where we'll be able to see it from and what time?

if there are any astronomers out there you're findings will be muchly welcomed in this thread.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:24 AM
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Also found this courtesy of the Sydney Morning Herald on 2007WD5 heading for Mars. No mention of 2007 TU24 though.




Mark January 31 in your diary. If anyone invites you to a barbecue on Mars on that day, say no. You might wind up roasted yourself, because as you read this, a rogue asteroid is hurtling towards the Red Planet, and you wouldn't want to be underneath it when it gets there.


Martians in for some contact sport

Am devoting the rest of today to finding something, anything, on this I can.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:39 AM
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Found this Global Asteroid Events site but I am clueless as to how to read any of this stuff lol

Thought it might have something in there of interest to someone who knows what to look for. And if not, why not ? hmmm.

The site shows it was last updated today.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by antar
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WEll don't you know thats all changed...
Goldstone has decided to shut down for repairs and ariecebo will not be able to view it from its position...


I would think that Goldstone will be up and running under tightened security, hence the "shut down" announcement. Trust me, EVERYONE is looking at this thing (and the Martian asteroid). Professional and amateur astronomers have probably been asked to stay mum on this to avoid a panic of some sort, especially with what may be a semi-meltdown in World financial markets starting this week.

btw, I had linked to the European SpaceGuard site from Harvard's site I believe. I found it's NEO info section also "closed for maintainance".
I was just wondering if anyone familiar with it knew if this was normal....


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[edit on 22-1-2008 by Yknot]



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:57 AM
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Would it be worthwhile to contact someone for information ?

I was just looking around the CSS website and found some e-mail address links for people on the CSS/SSS team and wondered if shooting them an e-mail, maybe point them to this thread on ATS, would be helpful?

Catalina Sky Survey

Scroll to the bottom for contacts.

Maybe it's a dumb idea but just a thought I had.

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posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:58 AM
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You know when I read posts like this it makes me think of all the similar posts that I've read about comets/asteroids .. etc..

it also reminds me of bed-time stories..

Like while you're reading... and get about half-way through the book and something major happens you still rest at ease because you can feel that there is still half a books worth of pages left to read through before you come to the conclusion of the book..
with 2012 being the conclusion of our book.... it seems a bit more frightening to me to read these types of posts .. it seemed less frightening around 2003-2004 (under my old alias) .. to read posts about "wormwood"
but now it seems we are gripping substantially less pages before the end of our 2012 'conspiracy' and a very old conspiracy/prediction at that.
I feel major shifts on more levels than just the planetary ..
and so do all of you, our questions are leading to more answers than we can share or compute before misinformation is inseminated.
Once the right people get the information categorized major shifts can occur, one could say it's all in the works, but you can't sit tight or take an easy this time, because this next shift involves everyone, it's a learning curve for humanity... a major one which will propel us into different dimensions of thought and being. We're looking for complicated things but it will be the most simple things that shift that create the larger movements.



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 01:59 AM
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What's with all this "maintenance" all at the same time? I certainly don't follow the alarmist path on these things, but enough is enough.

Now if I were paranoid, I would wonder if this was a red herring, something to attract the attention of people on CT websites, (maybe by agencies that monitor such places and know how the thought process and rumors work around here), and it is classic mis-direction.

What else is going down that needs to be looked at closely?



posted on Jan, 22 2008 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by Conluceo


Seriously Defcon5 no offense, but at this moment it seems that no one knows exactly whats to happen


It's a bit like living next to a busy airport. We don't know what will happen in that same way that when we see a large aircraft descend towards you house we don't know for certain that it'll land on the airport runway 500 yards behind your house. Although there's every reason to assume that just like every other aircraft it will. But the remote possiblity does remain that it will in fact crash into your house. After all, it's only to be a few hundred feet above you when it passes over - and most aircraft normally fly several miles above you. But do you panic every time?



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