Asteroid 2007 TU24 has NASA concerned.

Why is it that TU-24 was taken from the potentially hazadous list?

since the NASAs site was updated it is now significantly closer on the 29th than it was predicted earlier last week.

its is going to be at 0.0045. closer than anything else ive seen on the tragectory pages.

whats the deal with that? it would be visible surely? why not inform the public?

maybe the negitivly charged theories are right and NASA found out and is cencoring to prevent civil unrest?

maybe it will hit. Its being said it is no longer going to be at 1.4LD or even 1LD but even closer.

does anyone else see that there is something slightly fishy about everything concerned with TU-24?

pages being removed from the internet.
asteroid coming ever closer to earth but being removed from the Threat list whist asteroids who will pass much further away are still on the list?
all the labs and observatories closing down for "maintainance"
absolutly no coverage on the media as of yet?

its a bit odd.

[edit on 22-1-2008 by judasfish]

Originally posted by judasfish
Why is it that TU-24 was taken from the potentially hazadous list?

Things are removed from that list as more observations allow them to properly calculate the orbit of the object. When its first spotted they only have an area to look at, after a few nights when it was moved position they can start figuring the arch of its orbit, as more sightings come in over time, the arch becomes more certain. At that point, it is removed from the list. Look at all the other ones already removed from that list that also did not hit us. TU24 has close to 100 observations atm.

I'm reading that this thing has basically a one in 25 MILLION chance of hitting Earth. I really just think it aint gonna happen, despite it being really close. If NASA had any concern, it'd be pretty hard to conceal it.

Although, what's this about 'maintenance' and pages being removed from the 'net? I've found reams and reams of stuff relating to TU24, most of them alarmist and generally trying to scare people. I would've thought that stuff would be removed first, not scientific data that says otherwise.

Some examples of missing information would be good...

Until then, my BS-o-Meter is slowly moving closer into the red. But I'm certainly still open to anything that comprehensively shows me otherwise!

[edit on 22-1-2008 by mattguy404]

possible. then why isnt the Tragectory updated on the site?
surely someone would do that?

anyway it will surely be revieled very soon.

the countdown begins...

You know, the only thing that I find really concerning about this is that there has been a lot of asteroid "traffic" in our galaxy lately.

Who knows about TU24, and I'm no astronomer or math wizard, but it sure sounds like Mars may soon be providing us some really cool pictures by being in the wrong place at the wrong time, just like Jupiter did a few years back.

I mean, I'm almost 40, and I don't recall ever hearing about asteroids with this frequency? Now sure, technology certainly has a big part to do with that, but geez, there are only so many planets circling our Sun?

At the rate that they seem to be receiving interstellar suckerpunches, this party might be over a little earlier than we originally thought?

reply to post by defcon5


Exactly. Tu24 is now so close to earth and we have detailed enough data that we now know for certain it won't hit Earth.

It's like the 747 approaching your house. From a long way off you can't be entirely sure it'll fly over and land on the runway, but the closer it gets, the more certain - by measuring it's speed and trajectory - you can be that once again you're safe.

reply to post by Kaiser Sohse


There's thousands of these suckers in the solar system, and many more we don't yet know about. The WD5 asteroid, the one that was tipped as on a path with Mars, isn't going to hit either, its odds have been downgraded to some insanely huge number.

The reason so much is being made about TU24 is because it's had its very own conspiracy site, and little snippet videos made about it and published to YouTube.

I was wondering....

If this is suppose to affect us here on earth - I guess the Southern Hempisphere (?)....then why is our military not preparing for it? I would think they would be moving all military jets to safer areas. After all, this "prediction" is only a week away.

When there are major hurricane warnings in Florida, they move all jets far from Florida - well in advance. And they move their families too.

So how come our military isnt under any type of alert? I am "married" to the military, so to speak, and there are NO major alerts for any of our Air Force bases - Ive asked around to people at other bases im not at.

[edit on 22-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]

Its already been proven that it wont hit. its been announced again and again. but what about this negitive charge?

thats whats on my mind with TU-24.

does anyone know where a good place would be to see it?

reply to post by mattguy404


Yes, I agree. I heard an interview with an astronomer who stated that there were over 50,000 asteroids in our solar system, of which less than 20,000 have been identified.

I'm just wondering if we are not entering into a period where we will be seeing them more frequently? Maybe cycling thru a more "asteroid-rich" portion of our solar system?

I mean, the planet has been hit before, multiple times in fact, by "extinction-class" rocks, and will be hit again at some point.

I'm not trying to encourage "doomsday" chatter, but the longer we go without a collision, that much sooner we will have one.

reply to post by judasfish


They have yet to make a determination of the objects composition, so what makes you think they could detect an electrical charge. Either way, if your now admitting that it is going to be 1.4 LD away, that is the equivalent of like 550,000 Km, that would have to be one heck of a arc of lightning to cross that distance. Besides this we have never witnessed any other astral body that contained such a charge up to this point, so what makes folks think this one is different? If its from that video, then go back and read Phil’s Blog and look at some of the basic scientific mistakes in that video, such as confusing mass with size, then consider the source.

reply to post by greeneyedleo


I was wondering the same thing, I'm married to the Navy and based in the South Pacific so if it was a credibe threat to the Southern Hemisphere, as I mentioned in one of my previous posts, I'd hope they'd prepare us in a worst case senario.

Is that right to assume or am I naive as we are still in our "honeymoon period". lol

Here's hoping there is nothing to worry about

Originally posted by Kaiser Sohse
reply to post by mattguy404

 

I'm just wondering if we are not entering into a period where we will be seeing them more frequently? Maybe cycling thru a more "asteroid-rich" portion of our solar system?

The detection equipment is getting better. They can now photograph sections of the sky over multiple nights and then see what has moved via computer program. Taking the human aspect out of the equation speeds up how fast the process can be completed. It does seem though like there are some areas where we suddenly get a batch of clustered together objects all detected around the same time. I am not sure why that is, but some of it could be comet debris, left overs from their tails which also cause meteor storms

reply to post by judasfish


Not sure if this helps you, I think it will give you co-ordinates or something but don't quote me as I have no idea lol I just saw this site offers an observation prediction tool. If it helps let us know ?

Near Earth Objects - Dynamic Site

[edit on 22-1-2008 by ImJaded]

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by Kaiser Sohse
reply to post by mattguy404

 

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The detection equipment is getting better.









Thats whats bothering me

I can't find any sites that could show me where the asteroid is in relation to earth on a specific scale. I want to look at it with my telescope, but not only is it raining, I'm not sure from which side of the earth it is visible. Anyone know?

reply to post by The Universal Mind


On closest approach it will be at 10th magnitude, so you would probably need a very good telescope and some very accurate tracking info..

reply to post by The Universal Mind



Observation prediction for 2007TU24

Astrometric Observation Prediction
For 2008/01/28 10:07:00 (UTC); 54493.42153(MJD)
Observatory code= 0500
RA= 01:01:46.142 (HH:MM:SS); 15.44226 (deg)
DEC= +10 58 35.67 (deg min sec); 10.97657 (deg)
RA/DEC Apparent motion= 1359.71 4224.12 (arcsec/hour)
Earth distance= 0.0062 (AU)
Solar elongation= -70.75 (deg)
Apparent magnitude= 13.21
Size and orientation of 1-sigma uncertainty ellipse
Short axis : Size= 4.94263 (arcsec); Direction= 0.93162 -0.36343
Long axis : Size= 157.195 (arcsec); Direction= 0.36343 0.93162



The confidence boundary shown below has been computed using the linear theory. The line segment extending from the center to the edge of the plot represents the direction of apparent motion.



The raw data for this plot (same scale and axes) are given below.

RA DEC

0.2302332454 -0.0898143951
0.7830767477 1.3404293078
1.3058270498 2.7191610642
1.7783951506 3.9933969858
2.1826205231 5.1141689007
2.5029690130 6.0384061728
2.7271298074 6.7305908821
2.8464885326 7.1641227584
2.8564582999 7.3223414147
2.7566559767 7.1991665969
2.5509169102 6.7993318441
2.2471475374 6.1382025817
1.8570215450 5.2411856363
1.3955312560 4.1427528663
0.8804114835 2.8851164269
0.3314579914 1.5166065812
-0.2302332454 0.0898143951
-0.7830767477 -1.3404293078
-1.3058270498 -2.7191610642
-1.7783951506 -3.9933969858
-2.1826205231 -5.1141689007
-2.5029690130 -6.0384061728
-2.7271298074 -6.7305908821
-2.8464885326 -7.1641227584
-2.8564582999 -7.3223414147
-2.7566559767 -7.1991665969
-2.5509169102 -6.7993318441
-2.2471475374 -6.1382025817
-1.8570215450 -5.2411856363
-1.3955312560 -4.1427528663
-0.8804114835 -2.8851164269
-0.3314579914 -1.5166065812
0.2302332454 -0.0898143951

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I dunno what this means myself........... the brain-trust may be able
to decypher

Originally posted by The Universal Mind
I can't find any sites that could show me where the asteroid is in relation to earth on a specific scale. I want to look at it with my telescope, but not only is it raining, I'm not sure from which side of the earth it is visible. Anyone know?

Here
That has it mapped against the constellations.

This stuff is scary because there is nothing you can do about it, but I'm not going to worry about this because there is nothing I can do to stop it.

I don't live in the city, so if worse comes to worse, I feel comfortable I could fine food and shelter, if I survive the impact or a near miss.