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Originally posted by Bigwhammy
That is the truth Con. For instance, the Bible clearly calls homosexuality a sin; yet one look at all these very recent threads:
- Homosexuality is Not Condemned by Christianity (Proof from the Bible!)
- Who can agree with me when I say that being Gay is wrong?
- Sally Kern, "Gay's are Infiltrating our City Council."
- What DOES the Bible say about Homosexuality?
And you will find that Christians who have enough backbone to at least call it what the Bible says it is, a Sin, are labeled as intolerant. Atheism and secular humanism are behind this "politically correct" movement. Then there are also those who call themselves Christians yet are "grasping at straws" to claim the Bible doesn't really mean what it "sounds like" it is saying. They have simply fallen victim to the accusations like you say...
It is hard to take a stand these days.
But if you don't stand for something...
You might just fall for
Atheism.
Originally posted by rizla
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
And you will find that Christians who have enough backbone to at least call it what the Bible says it is, a Sin, are labeled as intolerant. Atheism and secular humanism are behind this "politically correct" movement.
Homophobic paranoid claptrap. Your comments gives Christians a bad name.
Your words tell me NOT only is the conspiracy walking and living among us, but when the days come that accusing a sinner takes more risk for ridicule than the risk of shame for the one committing it.
Originally posted by sizzle
Originally posted by Conspiriology
Originally posted by sizzle
[edit on 6-4-2008 by sizzle]
Did it ever occur to you,, to just shut up.
Don't get me wrong sizzle, I said it that way to get your attention. These posts may not end and whether you want them to or not, there is someone out there, one of these posts is speaking to.
They may be doing more good then just slapping our ego around in what we think is our need to be right or to defend that need when it is in jeopardy etc
Otherwise, in the words of John McCaine,, I don't care if we are here for a hundred years arguing LOL
- Con
Yes con,
It occurred to me to do that. And I did for about 20 pages. But you and 2 or 3 others, specifically, just kept batting the very same ball back and forth. Never accomplishing anything.
I understood your reasons and your efforts. But it was clear that certain people were JUST not listening.
It was NOT that they didn't understand. They chose NOT to hear. So the controversy went round and round until myself and many others became sick to death of it.
I would truly appreciate it if you do not tell me to shut up again, unless you plan to do so, yourself.
[edit on 6-4-2008 by sizzle]
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
That is the truth Con. For instance, the Bible clearly calls homosexuality a sin; yet one look at all these very recent threads:
- Homosexuality is Not Condemned by Christianity (Proof from the Bible!)
- Who can agree with me when I say that being Gay is wrong?
- Sally Kern, "Gay's are Infiltrating our City Council."
- What DOES the Bible say about Homosexuality?
And you will find that Christians who have enough backbone to at least call it what the Bible says it is, a Sin, are labeled as intolerant.
"Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning." 1 Timothy 5:20
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," 2 Timothy 3:16
"Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction."2 Timothy 4:2
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
That is the truth Con. For instance, the Bible clearly calls homosexuality a sin; yet one look at all these very recent threads:
- Homosexuality is Not Condemned by Christianity (Proof from the Bible!)
- Who can agree with me when I say that being Gay is wrong?
- Sally Kern, "Gay's are Infiltrating our City Council."
- What DOES the Bible say about Homosexuality?
And you will find that Christians who have enough backbone to at least call it what the Bible says it is, a Sin, are labeled as intolerant. Atheism and secular humanism are behind this "politically correct" movement. Then there are also those who call themselves Christians yet are "grasping at straws" to claim the Bible doesn't really mean what it "sounds like" it is saying. They have simply fallen victim to the accusations like you say...
It is hard to take a stand these days.
But if you don't stand for something...
You might just fall for
Atheism.
Well you might be under the impression that ATS is a Christian forum, it isn't. Sorry if this come as a blow to you but you are going to get varied topics and if you can't deal with that maybe ATS isn't for you. From the T&C:
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John 8
1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
11"No one, sir," she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by riley
Again with that silly "judge not" game riley?
Haven't you been corrected enough on that?
I judge the sin not the sinner. But that does not excuse the behavior.
"Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning." 1 Timothy 5:20
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," 2 Timothy 3:16
"Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage—with great patience and careful instruction."2 Timothy 4:2
Yeah that is exactly what the church has bough into too. That judge the sin not the sinner crap. That is as dumb as judging the murder but not the murderer or judge the theft but not the thief.
Total bunk
-Con
Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by Bigwhammy
Your point is lost on me, care to define it? Jesus didn't judge harshly, why should you have the right to do so? Are you beyond Christ's reasoning?
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
How did I judge anyone harshly? Did i condem? I did not. See?? I said the Bible says homosexuality is a sin. It does. And I get jumped on for it.
Then you try to use the Bible to prove to me that I am somehow wrong.
Now look closely at the story you quoted to me (thanks BTW)
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
Leave your "life of SIN." Which is all I said.
-case closed-
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
reply to post by Conspiriology
I wonder why people that do ot believe in God get upset that we say homosexuality is a sin. The definition of a sin is disobeying God. If there's no God why get upset for being called a sinner?
Makes me think deep down inside.
part of them knows
he's real