FLIGHT 93 - The Biggest 911 Smoking Gun!

reply to post by IvanZana

These debunkers have been coming on in tag teams and groups trying to burry all relevant information. and then smear it with silly disinformation and fantastic theories.

What relevant information?

Like the photo below?

This is what it should of looked like.

reply to post by ULTIMA1


Oh yeah.... ignore ALL the evidence that was provided and listen to the opinion of ONE person that wasnt there.

Try reading the FDR... you will see that nothing hit flight 93.

Remember that these debunkers and ignorant users have not been able to convince/ brainwash anyone into believing a plane crashed in Shanksville on September 11th, 2001.


If you are just joining this thread , will refresh you.


There was no plane that crashed in Shanksville (flight 93) on September 11th, 2001.

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These debunkers have been coming on in tag teams and groups trying to burry all relevant information. and then smear it with silly disinformation and fantastic theories.

No plane crashed in shanksvillle. No Wreakage.
NO PLANE
NO DOUBT.

As you can see, no plane here.


I am not even going to get into the dump truck tracks backing up to the hole.

Originally posted by CaptainObvious
Oh yeah.... ignore ALL the evidence that was provided and listen to the opinion of ONE person that wasnt there.

It was more then one person, but then you would not hasve read the source. So you just ignore evindece? Thanks for proving my point.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1


Unlike you i can psot evidence to support what i post.

complete911timeline.org.../11=dayOf911&startpos=500

When he later describes this incident while on a training course in Atlanta, Fleegle will be told that what happened means Flight 93 “was shot down.” A man there who says he is a retired Air Force officer will tell Fleegle, “[W]hen your lights flickered, [it was because] they zap the radar frequency on everything before they shoot. Your lights didn’t flicker from the impact—your lights flickered because they zapped the radar system before they shot it.”

This is evidence? You quoted ONE man who "claims" to be a retired AF Officer.. who again suggests what could have happened.

You however FAIL to look at all the evidence. You cherry pick statements that have no basis.

The evidence is clear... flight 93 was not shot down.





[edit on 27-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

[edit on 27-4-2008 by CaptainObvious]

reply to post by IvanZana

Dear boon you iognorant kid. That picture is a fake and is used as an example of a plane crash Hence the caption.

I think it is quite obvious you are getting schooled in this thread. You have failed to prove that a plane crashed in Shanksville and are resorting to avoiding and derailing. Yawn ...typical..

You have proven yourself to be most ognorant especially for a NEW USER such as yourself.

Dear ivanzan I'm not a kid. I know the picture is a fake and that you use it as an example of a plane crash. Why would you compare a 737 that slid to a stop and burned to an aircraft that impact of the ground at 580 mph at a 41° angle?

If you are the one doing the schooling, I will make sure that I skip class for reasons of self-preservation. I'm not derailing.

I had to go to dictionary.com to find out what ognorant means. It appears that there is no such word.

I'm not a NEW USER, I joined this site 14 months before you did.

reply to post by IvanZana


Geez.....IVAN.....even ULTIMA knows that UAL93 crashed in Shanksville!!!!

Or....OK.....no airplane, it never existed. The DFDR is completely, inexplicably made-up. The crew, and the passengers, all mysteriously 'vanished'.

Incredible claims require incridible evidence to support such claims.....and so far, from IVAN, we see opinions, or links to bogus information, while ignoring the mountains of facts.....one specious argument does not a conspiracy make!!

reply to post by IvanZana


Maybe the dump truck was dumping off your tail section.

This is what it should of looked like.

How about it Ivan, any comments on your misleading photo?

I would guess that you have posted it over 100 times on this thread alone.

Why would you compare the tail section from a 737 that slid to a stop and burned to an aircraft that hit the ground at 580 mph at a 41° angle?

reply to post by CaptainObvious

No "we" don't know. You obviously are on some type of an IVAN trip. Read the reports.

Do you know that Bob Lazar didn't land on my lawn? Or do you accept that he did?

Stop ignoring facts like Ivan does.

Please, by all means, show me the facts of where the fuel went.

reply to post by jackinthebox


JIB,

There was a fireball when the plane impacted? Yes or No?

There was a clean up at the crash site along with testing the soil for Jet fuel?
Yes or No?


Thank you.

reply to post by Boone 870

They didn't find an engine? ... Can you source that please?

It's already been sourced in this thread. But better yet, how about someone show me that they did find the other engine?

So far I have seen pictures of what looked like, and is claimed to be, part of one engine. That's it.

Originally posted by CaptainObvious
This is evidence? You quoted ONE man who "claims" to be a retired AF Officer..

So you also ignore evidnece ? If you would look at the source you would see that other support the fact about the jammer.

You also fail to look at all the evidnece.

1. 2 Distinct debris fields, far away from crash site.

2. Engine core found long distance from crash site.

3. Witnesses seeing another small plane and a C-130.

reply to post by jackinthebox

Please, by all means, show me the facts of where the fuel went.

I see that you brought your strawman back into this argument.

Please, by all means, post sources stating that there was no fuel at the crash site.

Originally posted by weedwhacker
Geez.....IVAN.....even ULTIMA knows that UAL93 crashed in Shanksville!!!!

I never stated Flight 93 crashed at Shankesville.

Why do you guys have to misquote me?

Originally posted by CaptainObvious
There was a fireball when the plane impacted? Yes or No?

Was the explosion enough to thow the engine core away from the crash site and debris to 2 different sites? YES or NO ?

reply to post by CaptainObvious

Oh... I guess this FDR was fraudulent just like the one at the Pentagon.

Could you please show me the serial numbers on the FDR matching that of Flight 93? I'm not trying to be facetious. I have heard the argument go back and forth over that with both 93 and 77. And honestly, I don't know what to believe about that part of the story.

reply to post by jackinthebox

It's already been sourced in this thread. But better yet, how about someone show me that they did find the other engine?

Sorry jack, you made the claim, you back it up. Please, by all means, show us your evidence.

Originally posted by Boone 870
Sorry jack, you made the claim, you back it up. Please, by all means, show us your evidence.

Like the official story the claim that Flight 93 crashed at Shanksville would not hold up in court becasue i have shown reasonable doubt.

reply to post by CaptainObvious

"All of a sudden the lights flickered and we joked that maybe they were coming for us. Then we heard engines screaming close overhead. The building shook. We ran out, heard the explosion and saw a fireball mushroom," said Fleegle, pointing to a clearing on a ridge at the far end of the lake.

Why would the lights flicker before impact?