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So, while you are certainly entitled to your viewpoint of my "Pravda" remark, I would consider it a very short-sighted one. My goal is not to dismiss the story out of hand, it is to get users to avoid justifying claims based upon articles from tabloid rags.
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp
How much would it cost to have a privately funded satellite made and launched? This I feel is the only way we will get the real photos.
It won't matter how much it costs. It won't get off the ground. There will be some law enacted that states the private rocket is illegal and can not be launched. You might have a private rocket, but you won't be able to fly it in to the atmosphere, which is not a public domain.
Any attempt at launching the private rocket will be stopped, with force, if necessary.
Originally posted by FlyingRoman
I wish enough people with the drive, desire, vision, as well as deep pockets could get together to create a truely civilian space agency. It is so strange, the US populous isn't allowed the truth, yet it isn't like we've roped off the moon from China and the like...
Originally posted by zorgon
As to your "Pravda" comment Astounding observation there... but Pravda allows you to quote and reprint... and the information they post is just a reprint of Enterprise Mission's news release... so your attempt at discrediting the source is really just a joke.
Originally posted by johnlear
Thanks for the post disownedsky.
Many have made the same mistake as you because they are assuming no.1 that you know what the actual temperatures
The temperatures on the moon are much different than you are told by NASA.
Originally posted by johnlear
Thanks you for your post thelibra. Apparently you are confused. The title of the post is "NASA Scientist Fired-Promises Disclosure". Not about what Pravda thinks or says.
The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon. Astronauts took pictures of the objects that they found, but NASA ordered Johnston to destroy the images. Johnston did not follow the order. He said that the U.S. government had been keeping this information a secret for 40 years.
This is the link cited as the source for the very first (and most sensationalist) external news quote on the very first post. If you'll note, none of the other external quotes from the other sources mention anything to the effect of ancient ruins, anti-grav technology, or that the government had been hiding this information for 40 years.
If you are unable, or unwilling to comprehend why this would cast doubt upon the entire story in the mind of anyone willing to give this a serious look, then that is your own limitation that will hopefully one day be overcome. I realize the thread is not about what Pravda thinks. That is not what I am attempting to convey. I am merely advocating the use of good judgment and responsible journalism on ATS.
If these concepts are not ones you are fond of, that is your choice, but I'll thank you not to condemn me for for suggesting their use within a site that I have a vested interest in improving our credibility for. Nor do I appreciate the level of condescension you are demonstrating for an attempt by staff to help improve posts through the use of more credible sources than tabloids.
Originally posted by SpadeofAces
I thought disclosed information was going to be available on the 30th. Why has nobody cited passages from this book, or anything related to the information it contains in the past 3 days?
Originally posted by they see ALL
Let me get this straight. The only disclosure that we will be getting are the stories presented in this book, the low-resolution pictures that are in this book and, if one were to attend the conference, high-resolution pictures? So it's basically the same stuff that's being presented in this forum (crappy, no offense, pictures and tall tales)? I want to believe (and I was happy upon reading this thread), but if the disclosure is merely a book with pictures then I can say, with confidence, that I, personally, will not be moved. Can anyone here promise us that we will believe by this guy's disclosure?
Originally posted by smartie
freakaloin
are you for real?
[edit on 2-11-2007 by smartie]
Originally posted by pmexplorer
My thoughts exactly. The longer this goes on the more it's credibility will be damaged, I do not mean to rain on the parade as it were, I was as excited as anyone when I signed in and saw this topic multi flagged and the likes of Zorgon posting here but as 'theySeeAll' put it, the only disclosure so far does not seem like anything overly significant or life changing or worthy of mainstream news exposure imho.