House Passes "Thought Crime" Prevention Bill

Ok dudes its time to go rebel. Revolution is the only way to fix this country and the corruption taking it over. Peaceful revolution is always the best way to pursuit our goals (our goals being to retain the rights given to us by the constitution), but they are not going to allow that very easily. The ONLY way to even stand a chance of having a peaceful revolution is to VOTE RON PAUL in '08. And guess what folks, they arent going to let that happen. Its time to peacefully congregate, because that is allowed in the constituion. Not just for protests, but in groups of people to protect each other, before they take away our right to peacefully assemble. Also, under the constitution each state has a right to their own militia. This is our only protection against our own governement and military. It's only going to get worse before it gets better. In the words of the THOMAS JEFFERSON: "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tryanny over the mind of man." The founding fathers sacrificed their lives and reputations to fight the NWO and elitists, and now it is our turn to continue the fight. Our generation has a chance to fight for the betterment of mankind and the people of not only this country, but the world. And it will take courage, brains, and tactics, just as it did for the founding fathers. Anyone who is tired of losing our God-given and constitutional rights is with me. And another thing, soon they will be censoring the internet and radio. I can't remember the name of the bill, but it is on the table, and they are going to shut down our means of communication. *&*# is about to hit the fan, and it will take the 21st century minutemen to save the people of this world. The organisation needs to happen now, before the election. After the election, if its not Ron Paul, it will be too late to organize, and even a post like this will get me thrown in an internment camp. I know they tap our phones, 5 years ago I had a run-in with the Secret Service. True story. I AM on the APEX list, AKA terrorist list. For making a prank phone call. yeah its not all that funny though. Anyways, anyone who is not afraid of the NWO needs to start putting their defences up and eggs in different baskets. Without organisation, resistance is futile.

Originally posted by android
I don't want to be crying wolf here but check this...

`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

Please somebody show me one article that is related to U.S. citizen related terrorism within the USA that had to do with the Internet or used the internet as a device to accomplish such acts (and don’t say researching because this is information that is publicly available anyways and/or one can purchase this information from the government at a small price)

Even better show me one single act of terror that has been committed within the USA that was not directly linked back to our own government and/or secret sects whom are embedded within the government and/or corporate conglomerations (means, motive, and opportunity).

Show me where the harm that the Internet causes is at! Remember this pertains within the borders of the USA and not IRAQ, IRAN, CHINA, UK, only the USA, so show me, can you do it?

I'm sorry, I'm against the government having too much power as much as the next person, but the idea that a bunch of folks with their rifles are going to take on the US military is ridiculous.

This isn't 1776.
-Jadette

Thomas Jefferson had too much faith in people. He did not envision today’s world when he spoke of armed revolutions. We need groups of informed citizens telling their politicians what do to. That is how a Republic works. They are there to represent us. WE are their boss.

If you are truly concerned about our country, then get people together and show them everything that has happened. Break it down for them individually if you have to. Form petitions to sign in mass or have everyone write individual true and heartfelt letters expressing their concern for their country to their local representatives. Join current groups if they exist.

Be sure to send letters to your local government. Trying to tell George Bush what to do is like a cashier telling a CEO he wants a raise. He just doesn’t care. You need to get to the CEO’s board members. You need a union. We have a representative government. If people were on the same page, our government would follow. Inform people, make them put their cell phones down and listen. Encourage them to have a voice.

And if they do ever come for the free speakers, then do not resist them. America will not tolerate the mass jailing of innocence. If they wish to jail all the wolves until only the dogs remain, make sure there are too many wolves to go unnoticed. They are beginning to tag us like wild animals.

Now the battleground is public opinion and education. If we can teach our children the truth about how our government is supposed to work and teach the uninformed the same thing, we can't lose. We need to be loud with our protests and loud with the truth. If enough of us speak up then the world and our " government " will be forced to listen. Then and only then will we be great again.
- cw0203

Exactly.

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I agree about Ron Paul. We need a consensus to fix our country and Ron Paul is the only one with enough backing to win.

Say what you want about him being a republican, the man loves his country and you can see it. He would fit nicely among our founding fathers. Say that about someone else who has a chance to win.

[ps]
I may have got myself on the list a couple days ago in another thread. I don’t know but someone very bluntly connected to my computer. The crap always hits the fan first, I don’t want to be on that list.

[edit on 27-10-2007 by captainplanet]

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Just as a note, RP is a Libertarian. It's my understanding that he ran on the Republican ticket so he would stand a chance of getting on the ballot.

Our "two party system" also speaks volumes about the mess we are in as a country.

Jasn

Certainly, without any direct accusing of any police force (I did say Force, right?), the police agencies are not protecting us any longer, nor have they for quite some time. The agencies, and there are dozens of them in the US, have been corrupted by the NWO and the tyrants that control them.

We all pay our taxes toward things such as police protection, but instead, it and our government work with our resources, against us!

I for one, prefer as an american citizen to remain able to free speak my piece in defense of myself and others without the fear of repressions; however, with our First Amendment rights quickly slipping away, and our Congress and Senate facilitating such with the full knowledge of their actions in doing so, I fear we have been sold down the river, so to speak.

I wholeheartedly ask each and every one of you , regardless of your state or country of residence, to take the time and effort in holding your Representitives and

Studying how foreign governments do it...

Then applying their foreign governance principles here...

Looks an awful lot like the one world government those rabid extremophile ultraradical fanatic ATS folks talk about!

Originally posted by anhinga
Six, count that -- 6 (!!) people in the House voted against this.

One was a Mr. Kucinich from Ohio.

Here's a breakdown of the usual traitors for special-interest:
www.govtrack.us...

[edit on 26-10-2007 by anhinga]

Kucinich doesn't seem like a bad choice, I wish I knew more about him. I think some people don't realize that we can elect whoever we like. I think most people that get it are just too disappointed to care, so they don’t share their opinions. So speak on. This is politics.

I think the reason they are passing this is because a lot of people seem to get angry when they hear truth. Like the slogan say “the truth is in here”. I can see some of the things people say worrying government officials but it is all healthy discussion. It makes people aware. At least it’s out in the open. I’d like to see the government operate on a public forum. We should be free to discuss whatever we want, especially on a conspiracy web site. Don’t get crazy when you find out something is real, just fix it. In a Republic, we fix by voting. Start denying ignorance on a grander scale.

Originally posted by captainplanet
In a Republic, we fix by voting. Start denying ignorance on a grander scale.

I think that's the goal of ATS.

Most of what you say is true. However, the reason a lot of us are discouraged is because we HONESTLY believe that our vote no longer counts.

What is the purpose of having voting machines that leave no paper trail if not to rig the elections?


Jasn

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What is the purpose of having voting machines that leave no paper trail if not to rig the elections?

Efficiency? Future ease of access perhaps? You're right to question, but don't let it stop you from doing. Wouldn't that be just what they wanted? For the critical to give up.

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Trust me, I will be voting! In the primaries and the actual election. Though, just the thought of the election process being completely hijacked sickens me. Almost as much as the mainstream media and the control they have.

Jasn

Is there intention to send US over the edge. Are they looking for another Revolution? are they hoping we hit the streets and head for DC im masses. Would they like US all to join Militias (plenty here in MI)?
Frankly at 44 I'm still ready for a good fight ! "I may not be as good as I once was- but I'm as good once as I ever was".
Funny that recent personal family history has lead me down the path of ancestors who were Masons, Convenants and Knights. Although the reviews are mixed on all- I've decide most is mere propaganda to discredit their integrity. Heretics only because they didn't follow the Catholic churches dogma & twisted doctrine. It has been intended for them to secretive because their lives depended on it. This also played nicely into the Churches rhetoric for Heresy and Devil worship and evil intentions. So we point our fingers at the Masons- not at the obvious tresspassors to god/Nature and man- The "Ordained" Churches.
Gov'ts got this 'tool' from religion- if you can't baffle them with your BS- then prosecute them.
Mentally- I'm wearing my armour, Sword & shield in hand, mounted and ready to ride- bring it on!!!
Trust I am Present, and beware.

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1. Your avatar creeps me out.

2. They aren't concerned in the least about a revolution. John Q. American doesn't tend to pay attention to things like this. That's the point.

Jasn

Why chance rigging the elections? They have done a much better job at making the general population believe their vote doesn't matter anyway, so they don't vote. More and more people pick up that apathetic perspective in todays society, and I feel its much more effective than rigging the election.

If you think it was really too big a deal who won in 2000, I doubt it. I garentee you we would still be at war. 2004? We would still be at war. Bush vs Gore, that isn't a choice. Kerry vs Bush, that isn't a choice either. Ron Paul vs Obama, to me that isn't a choice, only because obama stands for everything I am against. I believe that is what it is going to come down to. THAT election is when you need to worry about election rigging because THAT election may make a real difference.

I doubt you care, but i really dont agree. Bush had to win because who else would have went along with it... Gore? i dont think so, he is not nearly as psychotic as Bush.

There have been far too many lies, to big of an agenda to hold up. Bush has played the part of believeing his own BS for 7 years. That is a skill that few have.

The presidency was honor for Gore, it is a game for Bush and he knows it. He's been smiling ever since the recount in Florida. He knows he is playing a game, and he even has one of those 'game genies' like sega.

Originally posted by jmilla
The ONLY way to even stand a chance of having a peaceful revolution is to VOTE RON PAUL in '08. And guess what folks, they arent going to let that happen......

Well, if you and others are serious about Dr. Ron Paul, then you have at least 4 things you can do, in order of importance:

1-write his name in, in the primaries if they shut him out of the ballot.
He must be nominated 1st, before anything else meaningful can happen. Let's get him on the ballot.

2- go to www.ronpaul2008.com... to see what he is all about, (this should be # 1) or
www.ronpaul2008.com... to donate

3- if your state requires you to be a Registered Republican in order to vote, then you have 3 days left in Delaware to get Registered as a Republican, for example. Afterwards, re-register as whatever you like.

Party Registration Deadline: Wednesday, October 31st 4:30 PM Delaware
Click here to see what is going on/ required for YOUR state:
www.ronpaul2008.com...

4- to get involved on a local level, go here: ronpaul.meetup.com...

Let's get these business as usual azz's out of the gov. RP takes a very dim view of H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 as he was one of the few who voted NO.

www.govtrack.us...

RP is a Libertarian and a Constitutionalist. This automatically makes him an 'enemy' of the system.

VOTE RP IN '08!

Originally posted by tom goose
The presidency was honor for Gore, it is a game for Bush and he knows it. He's been smiling ever since the recount in Florida. He knows he is playing a game, and he even has one of those 'game genies' like sega.

Gore is a politician. Actions speak louder than words. We don't know what gore would have done. Being a politician, I would bet it doesn't matter whether bush or gore became president.

Bush pre 9/11 was all about reducing the troops in the world. Ron Paul has made this point countless times. Pre 9/11 bush was against an interventionist foreign policy. It just goes to show you a politician will always be a politician.

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I agree and feel that Gore would have been NO better. Clinton certainly wasn't.



Jasn

All our rights will be taken
the sheeple don't care as
long as they get their Tivo
rights are a privilige not a right.
and why is it I don't get to vote
on anything important
non binding referendum WTF.


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