"We are Gathering"

FYI:

mengaurd, If you really recieved the message then you wouldn't need to be asking a bunch of questions because:

1. you would know where to meet
2. you would be in contact with all the others already via direct-thought
3. you would know who all the others are
4. you would know all the who, what, when, why and how of the message and what it all means
5. you would not need to post here to attempt to figure it out

therefore, if you don't know what it is all about then you are obviously insane or attempting to play with peoples heads here on the board.

-Euclid

I see your point.

EDIT: The questions that euclid just raised are fair, after all the majority of us have only heard the voice, and nothing more.

Is there going to be some sort of mass-revelation as a result of our discussions?

Presumably, only those of the actual 'gathering' would know that.

Of course, you could say that we have a gathering here, but i doubt it's of the kind that menguard is looking for...

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It's not magic, people like you and me call it instinct. Open your eyes.

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I have already posted that, but some forgot about the details, they got caught up in the questions, it's (in) here.


Analytical views always draw a well balanced crowd. It makes things go fast but without repetition. lol.

(Scratch that)

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Now the question is, why has that scratched a sore in people, when it is your right to be awake and aware. Aware that there is just something below [our humaness] that lies dormant in-less its activated upon.

Something to jumpstart that engine to get it going again.
And that something is truth, which reaches us to the light.

The light is where the answers lie, have we not forgotten this world in under a spell.

I actually like where this is going. I have a good feeling about it. It's could to get conflicting opinions and beliefs. And its good to see that so many people are feeling this calling. And hey even if it were made up, at least their thoughts are good. I'd rather my world be manipulated by everyones positive feelings. If we all felt this calling for knowledge, change, responsibility, then we'd be on our way to living in a utopia.

My point is, even if everyone here is crazy. Their heart is in the right place. And that means everything to me.

And even those opposed, they are here, giving their opinion they feel is truth to them. They don't have to do it, but they want to help convince us of their truth, compared to ours. They're trying to save us all from our accused insanity And thats alright by me. I feel this thread is nothing but a positive exchange.

FYI:

Please be aware of analytic overlay. Many of you have said you have heard a voice or voices. You must ask yourself where it comes from; if this voice does not identify it self as your own consciousness.

Analytic overlay occurs after information from the "implicate order" is presented to our unconscious mind and then is translated by our pre-conscious, sub-conscious and conscious minds. It is our conscious minds' attempt to interpret data that it has recieved from our unconscious mind. Its interpretations are usually incorrect. Bear that in mind.

The implicate is order is a contrivance of David Bohm (physicist). It is not some airy-fairy concept but is steeped in science.

Please remember.... there is only one mind that permeates the universe and the multiverse. We only have consciousness and sentience. Our brains are transducers that recieve and process data from the environment around us. Nothing more.

-Euclid



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'This thread is to (show ourselves) there is friends amongst usl'

Remember that.

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'Only' is a word that shows limitation to our being.

We are undefinable, yet we try so hard to make sense of this layer because it categorizes our beliefs.

We are beings with unlimited potential, something only our dreams can take notice.

Your mind observes the world around it and if you can‘t rationalize it, your subconscious will “tell” you something. If you can rationalize this world, look again because something is wrong. That’s why this site exists, because everyone knows something is wrong and they are trying to figure out what.

A word of warning:

If you stop investigating the real problems in our world as a result of the message, or anything else, you wont receive another and you will just be as lost as everyone else. We are not meant to be a bickering species, the lies we are told make us so. We need to be gathering, because “they” own us. Divide and concur.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta
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I am everything and nothing; everything and nothing is within me.

It is also without you and of you and reciprocated as you are of it, you are within it and you are without it.

Energy can not be created neither can it be destroyed. When was the first energy and how?

There was no first and there will be no last.

Energy is in everything and nothing has the opposite energy.

Energy is everything and nothing, as the eternity of everything can not be measured, therefore by definition we must call it nothing since it is not truth evaluable through measurable tangibility. We are not only in; we are simultaneously in and out, ergo we are of, and of is we.

These opposing energies hold everything together.

The eternal opposition renders an eternal neutrality and perfection. The eternity of existence perfectly exists, it must not have more positive than negative, nor more negative than positive, by default it is neutralized as it is the combination of everything and nothing, positive infinity and negative infinity... immeasurably eternal at the defined through undefined concept of 0.

The Energy of light is life, the energy of dark is death.

Without the dark there is not known the light, without the light there is not known the dark. The energy of light is the survival of dark, the energy of dark is the survival of light. Light and dark both bring life, to live is to die, to die is to have lived, it is life that is the energy of both light and dark, and it is light and dark that are the energies of death, light can cause death and dark can cause life: energy neither lives nor dies, rather eternally exists. Too much light would blind and scorch you, too much dark would have you become lost and cold. Light and dark are neither positive nor negative in solitude, rather they work together symbiotically in a photonic symphony of neutral and mutual co-existence... always letting the other know its purpose and be aware of its attributes.

Growth is of light, decay is of the dark.

Growth is also of dark. Without the dark the plants would surely be torched. If growth is only of the light then why not throw out the dark? As mentioned previously we know what would happen to life if we threw out the dark. Growth occurs in the dark, and decay can occur in the light.

To be or not to be? - that IS the question.

To be and not to be - that is the answer.

Questions are better than answers.

There is no better and there is no worse. The eternal answer is the ever determined question, the ever determined question is the eternal answered. The answer is of the question and the question is of the answer.

We must put up with the bad to get to the good.

There is no good and there is no bad, there is only occurence.

My mind creates a new space for dark energy to go so that the physical world around me is not bent by its force.

There are no new spaces created, space is eternal. If your mind is infinite then it is already of the "dark". An infinite mind would be of the eternity of possibilities and probabilities.

They do not co-exist - neither in the same "time". All things in light have always happened and are always happening. All things in dark happen only now and right now.

The eternity of light and dark have always happened and always will happen, and they do co-exist to make one another known.

If the energy is making a conscious effort to speak "We are gathering" and it is in the present tense, "I am" tends to think this gathering is of the dark energy. If the energy is making a conscious effort to lead one to the conclusion that there be must another gathering to occur, then it would be light energy.

You are the light and the dark. It is you and you are, the unwhole of it: eternity. You are energy, not only one type, and not only two types, but sempiternally interconnected to the neverending abyss of space and time.

All I know is all I know.

Know eternity and you will forget the solitary and ever conflicting duality of all.

manguard, you are reading too much Crowley. He was insane as well.

93

actually it looks like many of you read too much Crowley.

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Since I started meditation I've had all kinds of bizarre experiences. OBE's, NDE's, Bedroom visitations, hearing telepathic voices and weird dreams. One dream I had not long ago was ominous to say the least. In the dream I was a sleep in my bed at night and started dreaming and during the dream I was confronted by my Grandma who had died a while ago. Basically she told me not to worry and that we would be together again very soon.

Well I didn't think much about it until I over heard my sister talking to my mother about a dream she had while on holiday in New York. She told my mother how she had dreamed about her grandma and how she told her not to worry as they would be together very soon. When I heard this, to say it sent a shiver down my spine was an understatement. I instantly thought crap - does that mean I'm going to die soon - yikes.

The most unusual thing was when I asked my sister when she had the dream and it turned out it was more or less the same time as I had mine. Well it certainly was a coincidence and definitely makes you wonder. Well it's been a while and I'm still alive and kicking so I'm relieved about that. I still dont know what to make of it, but it did seem ominous at the time.



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Originally posted by kindred
Since I started meditation I've had all kinds of bizarre experiences. OBE's, NDE's, Bedroom visitations, hearing telepathic voices and weird dreams.

FYI:

NDE = near death experience. NDEs occur AFTER physical/clinical death; So you are saying that you died not once but many times and had a near death experience for each death?

Clarify your self and get your information straight.

-Euclid

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Originally posted by euclid

It is our conscious minds' attempting to interpret data that it has recieved from our unconscious mind.

If the mind was "unconscious" it would not be able to relay and receive any information. Our minds are eternally "conscious" at different levels of awareness.

Please remember... there is only one mind that permeates the universe and the multiverse. We only have consciousness and sentience. Our brains are transducers that recieve and process data from the environment around us. Nothing more.

There is not a "uni-verse", it is not a whole, it is an eternity of space and time, unbounded and immeasurable, therefore there is an eternity of minds that permeate the existence and together they are an eternal mind, but never are they one. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; there is no expansion, there is no ending and there is no beginning. One can not exist by itself, it requires two and three and four to know itself, and if ever one stopped or was bounded by nothing (universal expansion), then one could not escape its eternity as nothing is what one is bounded by, thus unlimited and morphed into eternity. The environment around us also transduces and processes data, how do you think it knows to change when change occurs? We are the environment, we are the data. If nothing more then surely everything less.

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menguard,

i have a couple of questions.

1. Why did you want to know our age, location, etc?

2. Why do you talk with (parenthases) around some of your words?

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yes, sharing dreams. This why I further believe our brain is a receiver. Our thoughts are free to wander.

Pay attention to your dreams, even the most obscenely bizzare ones, and think about what they mean. I've had some very intimate life-changing ones. And I've also had simple ones I've shared with close freinds.

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Originally posted by captainplanet
Your mind observes the world around it and if you can‘t rationalize it, your subconscious will “tell” you something. If you can rationalize this world, look again because something is wrong. That’s why this site exists, because everyone knows something is wrong and they are trying to figure out what.

We/Humans do not have minds. All we possess is consciousness and sentience. Nothing more. There is only one mind and we live and move within it. We can get information from It. I get data from It all the time.

What I am attempting to elucidate here is that there is the danger of analytic overlay. The data one recieves from the "Mind (the one mind that exists)" can be corrupted by our own individual thoughts. The data can become mangled from filtering through our belief systems, preconcieved ideas; this leads to mis-interpreted information, misanalysis of messages/data recieved and ultimately incorrect postulates, i.e. truths.

-Euclid

Your world is being taken from you while you all sit by trying to explain that which is not worth explaining.

Meditate, it’s good for your state of mind. But when your done meditating, look at something everyone else is looking at, because your eyes can see. Your mind is calm. They need your help and will not listen to poetic rhetoric.

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What is insane?
A difference in opinion with the social consensus, or following the consensus home, where the hole began. It is a choice, as with everything.