Our 3 dimensions will become 4 and time goes bye bye

"The Universe is about to flip from having three dimensions of space and one of time to having four dimensions of space"


LINK to Abstract


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I agree there are many spiritual traditions think that this is happening now and some go so far as to say it should be complete by 2012.

But as far as what is being said in the abstract I have no idea being a non scientist if it relates to your topic or not.

We show that regular changes of signature on brane-worlds in AdS bulks may account for some types of the recently fashionable sudden singularities. Therefore, the fact that the Universe seems to approach a future sudden singularity at an accelerated rate of expansion might simply be an indication that our braneworld is about to change from Lorentzian to Euclidean signature. Both the brane and the bulk remain fully regular everywhere. We present a model in which the weak and strong energy conditions hold on the brane, in contrast with the standard cosmologies leading to the analogous kinematical behaviour, with a diverging Hubble factor.

arxiv.org...

Can you please interpret?



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Ok, I am not a astrophysicists either so I stole this from another discussion on the topic, I hope it clears it up a little bit.

It don't get much weirder than this. The universe is about to lose its dimension of time says a group of theoretical astrobods at the University of Salamanca in Spain. And they got the evidence to prove it.
The idea comes from the study of braneworlds: the thinking that the universe we see around us is a 4-dimensional cosmos called a braneworld embedded in a multidimensional universe. The "signature" of our universe is the number of space and time-like dimensions it has: in our case we got 3 space-like dimensions and one time-like dimension. It's what astrobods call a Lorentzian universe. So far so good: lots of astronutters think the same thing.

But our universe may not always have been like this. Some theorists think it may once have had a Euclidean signature meaning that all the dimensions were space-like. Now Marc "Bars" Mars and a few pals in Spain say that the Universe's signature might be about to flip from Lorentzian to Euclidean. In other words, our dimension of time is about turn space-like. Gulp!

This ain't entirely bonkers and here's why. Bars Mars has calculated what it's like to be an observer in a universe that is about to flip and get this: it would look as if it were expanding and accelerating away from us. Sound familiar?

Yep, it's exactly what astrobods have been observin over the last few years, a phenomenon they attribute to dark energy. If Bars Mars is right, dark energy ain't got nothing to do with it and we're all starin' down the barrel of a cosmic catastrophe.

Still, maybe four space-like dimensions will be better than three. Who needs time anyway?

www.arxivblog.com...

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The Mayan calendar ending 21 december, 2012, may also be since "time no longer exist".

Here is another article about the holographic universe (not sure if it ties into the OP theory or not) about 2012 and the end of time.

Terrance McKenna also came to the same conclusion really.

And the Apocalypse also mean "unveiling". It doesnt have to mean death and destruction.

There are many other things also saying that we are going towards a very exciting time ahead. What im wondering is... what will happen to humans? I do not believe we all die. The crystal/indigo kids being born speak against that. They talk about very exciting times ahead instead.

So... yeah. We'll see. Exciting times indeed.



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Well, it will be hard to miss if it happens.

The Universe will become bounded and finite and filled with infinite energy, and from our point of view, if you were there to have one, time comes to a stop.

I'd say you wouldn't have time to notice, but with the time axis issue it might kill you instantly but the instant could be eternal, so it could be a problem.

There are also sources that suggest that human kind need to reach a critical mass when it comes to enlightenment before time stops if we want to continue life.

The Critical Mass of Enlightenment

The critical mass of enlightenment can be defined as the smallest number of awakened human beings whose collective influence can initiate a significant shift in global consciousness. The process of creating enough enlightened ones to achieve this critical mass can be likened to the transformation of coal into diamonds.

So please help to influence as many people you can. It may actually matter to the survival of our species, even if scientists and skeptics may not think so.

The pressure of surrounding human unconsciousness creates an urgency in the potential enlightened one to awaken from illusion.

Ive been feeling like this for years.

Remember, the Hopi indians believe we are currently in the fourth existence. This is the final chance. Every civilization before ours perished because they did not listen to spiritual things and only followed science.

You may believe that or not, but I wouldnt be surprised since we are seeing exactly that on this planet at this point in time as well. You see people asking for scientific evidence for everything, and if none can be provided, they dismiss it as false.

But there are also tons of 2012 videos about awakening and such things on youtube and the interest in the paranormal is at an all time high, so we may have a shot.



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Where is the proof? Such a big claim with no mathematical proof is nothing more than garbage.

Originally posted by DraconianKing
Where is the proof? Such a big claim with no mathematical proof is nothing more than garbage.

There it is... Talking about awakening



I read that were scientist who made that claim. What matematical proves are you asking for?

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We are already in the fourth dimension.

3D=Space, 4D=Time.

We exist in 'space-time' (that is my opinion anyways).

I think we reside in many more, but most of us (including myself) are only aware of a few.

Originally posted by DraconianKing
Where is the proof? Such a big claim with no mathematical proof is nothing more than garbage.

check out the link. I can follow about half of it. It's not my field.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
We are already in the fourth dimension.

3D=Space, 4D=Time.

Only instead of having a time dimension in the sense of duration, it becomes a distance like "up".

Everything happens simultaneously, the energy level becomes uniform and approaches infinite, and a few other nasties. I'd say you won't miss it, but I'm not sure if you're obliterated before time stops or you are stuck in it forever.

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You are trying to attribute energies and amounts which are only relevant from a reference point with "time".

If "time" became a spatial dimension, there would be no reference point from which the energy level would matter. It would indeed be like the three dimensional world we know, however time becomes an act of motion.

Also, I can't find any mention of "Marc "Bars" Mars" anywhere but in a few quotes from this same article?

This topic is very fascinating to me. However, I can't seem to find the source of this. Can anyone point it out here?

Originally posted by DraconianKing
Where is the proof? Such a big claim with no mathematical proof is nothing more than garbage.

Here it the math.

MATH LINK TO PDF

I'd love to understand what this is about -- what exactly happens to the current 4d (time)? I cannot see this NOT ending pretty badly, does this tie into a pole shift, or anything like that? Can something explain, uh, in english?

just out of curiosity but the mayan calander had to end somewhere didnt it, otherwise they would still be working on it now , it just so happens it ends soon and im confident 2012 will go by without a hitch. I have a calender every year and it ends every year with a hangover what makes the mayan calender so special other than the fact they were very aware of the stars. Also we have evolved in a 3 dimensional world i dont think we could comprehend 4 dimensionial world (excluding time) if for some reason all sound changed to a pitch so high we couldnt hear it we would not instantly evolve the ability to hear it we would just be deaf, if such dramatic changes did happen im afraid i think we would just be left behind.

Could someone explain clearly what would happen ? Like if ya would been driving a car and that would happen ? Would ya like ..umm stop, like someone pushed the pause button ? or what ? I know that there arent real answers but still...

First off, hi to everyone because I am new to posting on this site. I've been browsing it for a few months and just recently decided to join so I can join in on the conversations. Again, hello to all.

Well it sounds to me that even if this is true then there is absolutely nothing that can be done to change it or stop it so I'm not going to worry about it. However, I think we will live to see 2013.

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