Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

My warning to Mr. Bin Laden. Dear sir, Should you find it necessary to attack the United States Of America heed this warning. America can muster the best and the brightest the toughest and the meanest men you will ever see. What are you going to do when you have 50 million American killing machines down on you? You fight for your Islamic ways however if you attack us again Islam is dead, We will nuke your beloved religious sites, Lay waste to every Arab city that harbors your kind and kill every dream you have ever had. Attack us again sir and you will be to blame for this not anyone else, Just you. So as you sleep tonight think about what I have said just before you bring the world down on your head.
Convert to Islam? No sir, I will send you straight to hell.

Actually, OBL doesnt no shat because he didnt mention blackbox voting and the scam going down in Ohio. And I thought OBL was hip to the whole scene. Seems like he just reads USA Today or something to stay current and isnt aware of the very basic scams in our voting history. OBL just lost points with me, I would never vote for him to be President.

Originally posted by thedogsbollix
"if we were smart"
A smart american now there is a thought, if you were smart you wouldnt have a beady eyed crook running your country and ruining everyone elses country at the same time, would appear that the coterie of crooks that surrounded him are getting legs and running like rats on a sinking ship.

Good point. Americans arent smart. What does that say for the rest of the world, most of which continues to run to us whenever they are threatened.

Where are you from?

Originally posted by QuasiShaman
reply to post by infinite

 

Our evangelist christian leaders have the same mind set here! Just (obviously) from the christian/israel side of the coin. No difference!

The problem here is religion. It truly is evil!

The lack of religion has also created some pretty bad events too. I think it is safe to say humans will use what every delivery system they can to further their goals for good or evil. Religion in itself is not evil, and once used as a political tool by evil men it is no longer a religion.


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Well, now I see Alex Jones is predicting an attack and he correctly predicted the 9/11 ahead of time. I don't always agree with Alex on many things, but I think he is sincere and does his research! Things are starting to point to an attack maybe this month!

Alex Jones Predicts attack before October!

reply to post by mel1962


Please provide documented proof that Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attacks.

reply to post by SmokeyJo


smokeyJo - thanks!!

Lookie here:

ANSWER: To apply pure black dye is not permissible. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, "There will be people who will come later (in my Ummah) and apply black dye. They will not even smell the fragrance of paradise." (Abu Daawood).

However, it is permissible for a Mujaahid (warrior) to apply black dye in order to give the impression of being young. (Jawahirul Fiqh vol2 pg421) It is also permissible for one to dye his/ her hair black to beautify himself/herself for one's marriage partner if he/she is young, and the hair has turned grey due to some sickness, etc.

www.shariahprogram.ca...

So - he's either doing it as a sign of warrior status, or he's getting married. I'm leaning toward the former.

Follow up:

What is the ruling on dying hair?

The ruling on dying hair differs for men and women. For men, it is forbidden except for two occassions, which are:


1) One’s hair has turned grey at a young age in which case it is permissible to dye it to its original colour, i.e, black.


2) One’s hair has turned grey due to old age in which case it is permissible to dye it other than the colour black.


3) When one is in war in which case it is permissible to dye one’s hair black to deceive the enemy.

www.muis.gov.sg... 007515121618

da-da-dum O_O

Originally posted by Night Watchman
reply to post by mel1962

 

Please provide documented proof that Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attacks.

Here you go, its on YouTube Video!

Alex Jones Pre 9/11 Prediction!

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Originally posted by Valhall
Follow up:

What is the ruling on dying hair?

The ruling on dying hair differs for men and women. For men, it is forbidden except for two occassions, which are:

3) When one is in war in which case it is permissible to dye one’s hair black to deceive the enemy.

www.muis.gov.sg... 007515121618

da-da-dum O_O

So now that we are "deceived" what are we to think? Lol

Originally posted by Night Watchman
reply to post by mel1962

 

Please provide documented proof that Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attacks.

Keyword search in youtube "alex jones predicts 911"

Originally posted by Valhall
Follow up:

3) When one is in war in which case it is permissible to dye one’s hair black to deceive the enemy.

www.muis.gov.sg... 007515121618

da-da-dum O_O

Nice find.

Since I really doubt he thought the change would help his effort to hide, it just really might be a 'code' after all, as some have already suggested.

Very interesting.

Thats not prediction, hes just blaming on the U.S. govt. for either doing it or allowing it to happened like he blames the U.S. govt. for past terrorist attacks like WTC 93, Oklahoma city bombing.

I'm surprise he didn't mention about U.S.S. Cole or the embassy bombings. Guess he didn't predict that.

reply to post by Night Watchman


If you actually took the time to read the article that was linked in the post you are asking about, they it tells you exactly how to get the proof you ask. It is easily found on google as well. It seems to be pretty well documented that 2 months prior to 9-11 Alex Jones was telling people what would happen and who would be blamed for it. I must admit, I was shocked when I first came across it and spent a lot of time trying to verify it. You would assume that someone who told you 9-11 would happen and who would be blamed for it would have gotten a lot more coverage somewhere.

I understand that yes it is permitted to dye ..but Quranically preferrably a color other than black..This is not to negate the possibility of a signal..but perhaps another reason His Diabetes would cause Alopecia , his diet in harsh environments, and stress which would understandibaly make anyones hair turn white or fall off. In the picture he looks terrible symptomatic of someone ill without access to therapy.

www.cnn.com...

This would then necessitate a hair piece or coloring it, using any such product actually agrravates the condition, so is forced to use the black coloring. I am sure the Quran would consider his intent along with what is available in the area..I am not sure whether or not there are readily avaible clairol products on the shelf in the rural Pakistani boutique shops or drugstores. That being said it may be a hairpiece..it does not even look natural.Ladies please weigh in. You know the real deal.

I have revisited the issue of forced conversion..Quranic and Biblical and we may get a better perspective whether what he is doing is quranically acceptable..which i found is not ..Actually many early Muslim conquerors preferred not to convert so they could collect a tax under their tolerance provisions as we are people of the Book with the same Abrahamic tradition..
The following answers the question
Does the Quran teach to kill, tax or convert infidels as a general principle? Also does the Quran teach that in the last day trees will cry out there is a Jew behind me come and kill him?

coolguru.sulekha.com...

Absent overt threat is there a signal or what..where there any in his last ones?..I don't think so..that idea I believe came from earlier attempts..still ongoing, that messages were encryped in the medium itself..after scanning millions of images by the country's leading cryptologists..one who proposed such analyses and decipehered the Famed KGB Russian cyrillic codes which has a monument in Virginia (I have to recheck geographical on location and post later) They found as of yet..none.

So we have left only the message..I am Alive..and ..that the enemy are the transnational Corporations and interlocking directorates that seem to include ex-members of government . consultants and lobbyists. from all the countries involved in the war , and which have allegiance to no nation ..there is indeed a wealth of evidence to that..and Intrepids comments are well worth noting.

If anyone should worry it should be them as they and their oil fields, apparatii and other enterprises are definitely worthy targets as opposed to the masses unarmed civilians.

There is no doubt we are caught in the middle of information propaganda war from both ends, striving to to get the upper hand, and we must look at the entire landcape and not just one tree as Osama is . who or what really is in the forest..why do the other trees appear to be falling and disappearing..who or what is doing the logging..Perhaps the message was "stand back and look"..so you can tell the difference between the "forest and the trees".

Clearly, we must all go back and refresh a perhaps not so favorite subject history..but we had better ..so we can explain the puzzling contradictions of this war, distinguish more objectively who are friends and enemies are..and prevent the increasing numbers of the latter. If we love our country..thats the least we can do..if we intend to really keep it and our liberties that is or we will wind up like that Ms. Teenage America..who could not answer why so many young could not find America on a world Map. She couldn't .


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Delta, whether you agree with Alex Jones or not, he predicted the event before hand, see below!



prediction

noun
1. the act of predicting (as by reasoning about the future)
2. a statement made about the future

Originally posted by SmokeyJo

The rigorous Salafi Islamic school to which bin Laden belongs “condones this dye only in preparation for war,” he said.

So may be it is a signal after all. Hope we do not actually find out though. The current situation will be a picnic compared to the next post attack retaliation. At least that's my thought.

Originally posted by mel1962
reply to post by deltaboy

 

Delta, whether you agree with Alex Jones or not, he predicted the event before hand, see below!

So did the news media and newspapers he points out that he used as a reference about a possible terrorist attack. I guess everybody has foresight eh? Remember that Bush had a warning that something was coming while he was in Crawford, TX back in August 6, 2001.

reply to post by deltaboy


Prediction = Intelligence???????

The President was given information, Alex actually predicted the event! The President didn't figure it out until after the second plane hit!



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The more I read on the Islamic websites concerning the black dye, the more I'm convinced this was done to make a statement that he has "gone back to" the Mujaahid role.

Question:
What is the ruling on dyeing a white beard?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Dyeing it with something reddish or yellowish is Sunnah, but dyeing it black is haraam according to the sound opinion, and it was also said that it is makrooh. This ban applies to both men and women, except for the man who is engaged in jihaad (mujaahid). Al-Maawirdi said: “It is not haraam in his case.”

Some people have the habit of dyeing their hair pure black at peace time (i.e., when not engaged in jihaad). This is not right according to sharee’ah. There have been cases where prospective brides and their families have been deceived and cheated when a prospective husband has dyed his hair to give the impression of being young and strong when in fact he is old and weak.

islamqa.com...

Okay, so that rules out marriage.