Loose change on the view , was blocked by the president

to those that think 9/11 was done by terrorists without assistance from CIA intelligence or Isreali intelligence


1.can you beleive the goverment (some fractions within) are capable and would do that to there own citizens for money? and more power? even if u don't think they did 9/11

2.can you believe other governments in "less free" nations would do this to there people. do you beleive democracy's use propoganda more where as dictatorships use more "force" to maintain there power. what would be some example's of propoganda, and how could they distribute it

3.honestly would u feel scared if you found out the government wouldn't mind killing a couple thousand people to make a couple trillion for the elite?

4. could u think of any good reasons to act like you believe that fractions within the government are looking out for your wellbeing even if they may not? why might you be surprised to learn you are willing to look the other way?

just trying to get people thinking, that's all. some people are scared that they may have to get off there butt's or make a few changes in there belief systems in order to see from a different perspective.

maybe when the economic stagflation hits you will not be able to afford your cable bill and watch you favorite tv show, and you will feel enough pain to turn the light on in your cranium?

[edit on 25-5-2007 by cpdaman]

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Was Bush Speech Scheduled To Pre-empt The View?
ABC show set to feature 9/11 truth heavyweights cancelled in favor of Bush's Al-Qaeda obsessed press conference

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, May 25, 2007


Did master political strategist Karl Rove schedule and script George Bush's speech in the Rose Garden yesterday to pre-empt the possible appearance of 9/11 truth movement heavyweights on ABC's The View?

That's the suspicion many people outlined to us in e mails and calls yesterday.

Though we learned privately that guest appearances by William Rodriguez and the Loose Change crew on the show hosted by Rosie O'Donnell were cancelled at the start of the week, the ABC website still listed their names as being scheduled.

Presidential news conferences that take place in the daytime and do not relate to any kind of breaking news or national event do not cut into regular programming on major non-news channels, and yet ABC chose to air the speech in its entirety after The View was cancelled for that day.

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Many 9/11 truthers now suspect that this was a Rovian ploy to distract attention or in effect completely displace the subject matter raised by Rodriguez and Loose Change that was set to be aired on The View.

In his speech, Bush re-hashed dated and questionable "intelligence" about Al-Qaeda and entered into a sophomoric rant about how the terrorists want to kill our children, invoking the phantom group no less than 19 times.

"Just about everything else that came up during the hour-long news conference was traced to bin Laden's terrorist network," writes Dana Milbank today in the Washington Post.

"They are a threat to your children, David," he advised NBC's David Gregory."

"It's a danger to your children, Jim," Bush informed the New York Times' Jim Rutenberg."
"This last warning was perplexing, because Rutenberg has no children, only a brown chow chow named Little Bear. It was unclear whether Bush was referring to a specific and credible threat to Little Bear or merely indicating there was increased "chatter in the system" about chow chows in general."

Was Bush's relentless propaganda pitch about Al-Qaeda scripted to coincide with the slated appearance of 9/11 truthers on The View, a show that enjoys 30 million viewers over the course of its air time? Was this a Rovian scheme to neutralize 9/11 truth?

In between his 10th and 11th mention of "Al-Qaeda", a sparrow stepped up to the plate to challenge Bush on his crap and put the cowardly Washington press corps to shame by pooping on his shoulder.

Originally posted by Funkydung

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Though we learned privately that guest appearances by William Rodriguez and the Loose Change crew on the show hosted by Rosie O'Donnell were cancelled at the start of the week, the ABC website still listed their names as being scheduled.

Quick. Somebody find out the phone number for the producers of "The View." I checked the official White House calendar and Bush doesn't have any more press conferences on his schedule!

OMG! What an opportunity to foil Karl Rove and the Neocon elite by re-scheduling Dylan Avery on "The View" before they catch on!

you people act like they were really gonna show lc .. they just had the
liar avery and william rodrequze sp?.. and all the janitor says is that he heard " loud booms " around ... im sure he did .. lots of falling debris and
plane parts .. it must have been very confusing in the basement in the moments after the plane hit . but you all act like the movie was to be shown. .. sorry , it wasnt . just blow-hard avery spewing his quotes that
are taken way , way out of context .

so, why are you people here...?

you need:



NOW, or it will be too late!

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by yuefo
I don't watch the show either. BUT about 3 million people do,

Which tells us that those 3 million people have no brains and have no lives.
It's a very sad commentary about the state of affairs in America.

Originally posted by BPI
I don't watch The View but calling everyone who watches it "ignorant" is actually an example of ignorant.

Yes, I do agree. That is a pretty smelly ignorant comment. My question to the people who obviously do not like Rosie O'Donell. Why? Even if she was the "spokesperson" for the truth movement, why not? What bars her from, theoretically, being that spokesperson? I don't watch the view but I have been following some of her arguments and she does have some good points.

Back in the day when I was even more of a sheep than I am today, I did see Rosie in a bad way, specially when she launched those rubber thingys with all the little wiggly "hairs" at the audience. But, I had no idea why? I can now see that it is just another syptom of mind conditioning. Think about it. After she made those comments about 9/11 on the view, the smear campaign that followed was outrageous. Instead of addressing her comments and concerns, the media decided to trash her person and lifestyle. How ignorant.

inally posted by nick7261
Or is it pot that makes people paranoid...

It's the buds, believe me.

Originally posted by UNnoticed
I don't see any other celebrities stepping up to the plate to put their point across like she has...so if rosie is all we got's then rosie it is...unless one of you fine folks wants to step up and take charge...but I don't see anyone doing such...except criticizing rosie for her actions...

Anybody want to hazard a guess as to why no one else other than Rosie wants to step forward? .....................................I didn't think so.

Originally posted by BlueTriangle
I say hooray for President Bush! He found a good way to prevent a one-sided propoganda viewpoint with no rebuttal from being broadcast to the millions of idiots sitting on their butts in the middle of the day while the rest of us worked for a living.

i beg to differ. he found a good way to spout his own one-sided propoganda to 'millions of idiots', while simultaneously silencing the loudest of the dissenting populace.

p.s. some idiots are home workers, part time workers, shift workers, and independent entrepeneurs with flexible schedules. the industrial revolution is over. get with the times.

I just heard that Rosie is done on the view. There is a report on the radio that says she won't be back after her arguement with Elizabeth.

Awww!!! Poor baby's going to pout now!!


Rosie's Kaput
[edit on 25-5-2007 by JIMC5499]

[edit on 25-5-2007 by JIMC5499]

Originally posted by JIMC5499
Anybody want to hazard a guess as to why no one else other than Rosie wants to step forward? .....................................I didn't think so.

because they have their life and liberty threatened?
because they've seen what happens when you speak out against this criminal cabal?

Originally posted by BlueTriangle
I say hooray for President Bush! He found a good way to prevent a one-sided propoganda viewpoint with no rebuttal from being broadcast to the millions of idiots sitting on their butts in the middle of the day while the rest of us worked for a living.

First off, this is probably responded to later on in the discussion. However, I just wanted to try and clear things up a bit.

The View was going to have the crew from Loose Change on and not the show itself (not stated in the above quote but seemingly stated by others before this post). There were supposed to be a couple other 'truthers' on as well.

Second, they DID invite po(o)pular mechanics and the NIST to join them in a debate and both parties refused. That's the ONLY reason this would have been a one sided show.

And last, you like to call great people like my wife who probably works a hell of a lot harder than you when she is at home during the day taking care of children and running her own transcription business. I just love it when people 'like you' make ignorant comments like you did above. It just goes to show that, well, you are ignorant and blinded by your love and faith in this government.

Wake up. Do your research. Figure it out for yourself. But, as I fear it is with most people who refuse to do this, the idea of this being the truth scares you too much to really dig. You don't want your world and view on reality to change the way it would if indeed you did simply connect the dots and do some real research.

Originally posted by acmeartifacts
spit out the blue pill nick

Couldnt have said it better myself mate...

"I think the fact that you guys actually cling to a personality like Rosie to spread the "truth movement" shows just how ridiculous it is."


OK, here is what I think is ridiculous.

1. That all three buildings fell faster than the law of physics say they should have.

2. That all three buildings fell exactly in the same manner even though each building was damaged in different locations.

3. That WTC building 7 fell when no damage was apparent but a few small pockets of fire.

4. That hardly any plane wreckage was found.

So, if we just go with #1, that would be enough. If someone says that when you drop and apple it will fall up, you know they are lying because the laws of physics state otherwise. Now, when someone tells you that a building can fall faster then a free fall object thrown from the top of that building there is something seriously wrong. Because that is against the law of physics. How can our government actually think we would believe them when they are telling us that the laws of physics don't exist in this case. This one fact alone deserves some explanation. And no one has given a reason for WTC #7 falling. There have been hundreds of steel skyscrapers that have burned for days and all that was left in the end was the steel frame. Look it up. SO,WHY DID WTC7 FALL? HUH?

Originally posted by BlueTriangle
...the millions of idiots sitting on their butts in the middle of the day while the rest of us worked for a living.... You guys need to find a better spokesperson ... the fact that you guys actually cling to a personality like Rosie

I love the way you seperate yourself out from the rest of us there, good thing we have hard working joes like you to keep us filthy CT'ers in line. Just out of curiosity, what is it precisely that makes you so much better than 'us'? What makes other people idiots to you? Why even come and waste your precious time posting on a site teeming with idiots?

I've seen some really rude posts on this thread, if you don't like Conspiracy Theory related material, or the people who discuss them, why not sign up to Newsmax discussion board, or do you guys just feel an inherent need to come here and belittle people? That's pretty damned arrogant considering the company you're in. In my experience, ATS is probably one of the finer collections of intellectuals and their material I've found on the internet. Grow up.


If you don't like Loose Change, try this on for size...
video.google.com...

[edit on 25-5-2007 by twitchy]

Who actually watches "The View"???? A bunch of hens sitting around cackling about nothing.

If some big break of a story is going to be on, I sure wouldn't want to spread the message via "The View"


Oh, and btw, I am a woman, I am home during the day quite a bit, raise kids, have a photography business and do mortgages. I certainly don't watch the view!

Sorry, but this is a *really* weak CT. Yeah, GW just had to preempt a crappy show with cackling women. The truth would have been heard!(by a bunch of housewives!!! OH NO!)


[edit on 5/25/2007 by llpoolej]

What is up with this huge fascination with Rosie?
What she says and does are discussed on this forum constantly.
Every day it seems she's on the news (why the doings of celebrities are newsworthy in the first place is also beyond me)
I punched "Rosie" into the search box and got over 800 returns!!
Try it yourself.
It's beyond me what it is about her that makes her just so interesting.
I have yet to hear about her saying or doing anything of any interest at all.
Yet there are pages and pages and pages about her at ATS.
Is ATS turning into the new Rosie O'Donnel discussion board?

Can someone please enlighten me about this?

Originally posted by JIMC5499

Anybody want to hazard a guess as to why no one else other than Rosie wants to step forward? .....................................I didn't think so.

Although I do like the point that someone made towards the end here that indeed it does come down to fear of getting smeared by the people in power I do beg you to do some more looking into the 'celeb' populace before you make a blanket question like this. You may be surprised to find out just HOW MANY are actually in line with the idea that there is something VERY wrong with the 'official' story.

Originally posted by subject x
What is up with this huge fascination with Rosie?
What she says and does are discussed on this forum constantly.
Every day it seems she's on the news (why the doings of celebrities are newsworthy in the first place is also beyond me)
I punched "Rosie" into the search box and got over 800 returns!!
Try it yourself.
It's beyond me what it is about her that makes her just so interesting.
I have yet to hear about her saying or doing anything of any interest at all.
Yet there are pages and pages and pages about her at ATS.
Is ATS turning into the new Rosie O'Donnel discussion board?

Can someone please enlighten me about this?

um maybe its because she is helping to expose the corrupt government to millions of people. yeah its very interesting.

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Management and sources close to Rosie O'Donnell tell us that the host of The View is incensed with what seems to be a deliberate campaign to discredit her before she exits the show and that Rosie may cut short her contract and leave early next week.

The show was again in the headlines this week following O'Donnell's blazing row with Neo-Con Stepford Wife Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

Prominent 9/11 truth activists William Rodriguez and the Loose Change crew were set to feature on the ABC broadcast as guests yesterday, but the entire show was cancelled in favor of carrying a Rose Garden Bush speech.

We are told that ABC always knew Rosie wasn't going to host the show yesterday but misleadingly failed to alter the schedule stating that the 9/11 truth representatives were set to feature.

Now we understand that there is a deliberate effort on behalf of the show's Neo-Con producer to drag Rosie's reputation through the mud in the final weeks of her hosting appearances.

This is an orchestrated attempt to discredit O'Donnell and make other TV networks think twice about handing her a new show.


O'Donnell is deeply incensed by this move and is considering walking out on the show early next week. She is meeting today with ABC chiefs in an attempt to resolve the matter but could be gone within days.

O'Donnell has consistently sparked controversy for being the lone voice on daytime television in speaking out against the war in Iraq and questioning the official story behind 9/11.

We also understand that Rosie is seeking another forum to go fully public on 9/11 and present more evidence that directly contradicts the government's version of events.

NEO CON PROPAGHANDA IN FULL EFFECT.



Youll live your entire lives never knowing you've been had
its what sheep do.