New Drone, similar to the C2C one

Originally posted by wildone106
its GLARINGLY Obvious its a forgery, yet people here continue to believe its real. They imagine if its not an alien vehicle, its some kinda "drone" that has miracle anti-gravity developed by humans, as if thats not amazing enuff.

Originally posted by ZikhaN

Originally posted by wildone106
Its a 3D model rendered with HDR lighting..check these out..3d models in real environments, anyone with 3ds max can do it, no hollywood specialist needed.

geektechnique.org...

www.nickbertke.com...

Sweet, I really like this one:

Btw, you can tell that this one is a CGI put into a real-life photo:

[edit on 23-5-2007 by ZikhaN]

How dare you post a picture of my mother-in-law and her sister ??

Originally posted by etshrtslr

Originally posted by Latitude

Ok. But if you maliciously cause a widespread panic from an attempt to profit you could go to jail.

There is no wide spread panic going on. Some pictures posted on a web site are not going to cause a panic at best they give people like us something to talk about. This topic is not even being discussed by the msm. The only people that know of this stuff are the ones that hang out on sites such as ATS.

If this thing makes the mainstream media the odds are high for widespread panic. Myself, I dread this happening because the hills will be full of rednecks packing shotguns. Let's see what happens in a week or two, especially if we get another sighting.

Originally posted by wildone106
How can u even imagine it to be a flying gizmo?? How the heck would it propell itself?? Its not REAL. get it??

Originally posted by SuicideVirus
If this flying gizmo is a promotion for the new Transformers movie, I wonder what it's supposed to turn into. Hopefully something cool like a dirt bike or a snowmobile.

Well anti-gravity ofcourse. Anti-gravity has supposedly been achieved by mankind since the 2nd world war. So why not?

But you just convinced me that the craft is a CGI put into a real-life picture. It's so easy to tell, especially from the picture I posted.

Originally posted by highCT

There IS something illegal about putting pictures out on the web that could cause mass panic worldwide to promote a movie....

I for one am sick and tired of UFOs/Aliens being treated as just a joke. Actions must be taken and if Im the one that needs to step up, I will.

Collectively we are not making sense here. Nearly everyone on this Board is screaming for Disclosure saying 'We have the RIGHT to know! It's not 1947 any more. We can handle it.' Then we turn right around and say a few strange pictures posted on the web could cause a mass panic.

Which is it? And WHAT panic? Anybody here paniced? Raise your hand if you're in a panic over these pictures.

See? No panic.

IMO you will never convince a prosecutor to take on a criminal case over this. Even Homeland Security won't jump at this; there's been no response and no cost, therefore no damage to recoup. That leaves you with a civil suit. Good luck finding the grounds. You going to sue because you don't find it amusing? If you DO sue over this, you will perpetuate the one thing that truly angers you. You want UFOs/aliens to be taken seriously, right? Then don't sue. Not only will you be laughed out of court, the opposite of what you want, you will wind up a small blurb in the paper or newscast about the nutcase who brought suit because some fake UFO pictures were posted on the web. Then everyone rolls their eyes and says how the UFO nuts are complete idiots.

If this is a marketing campaign, ANY publicity at all is a plus. In fact, you could make a case that anyone who sues over a marketing campaign is working for the campaign.

Those flowers do look like monkey flowers from what I can tell from wikipedia and quick googling. Since this is way out of my league I'd still like a professional opinion on those, anyone have relatives or friends who are big into plants?

Originally posted by Latitude


If this thing makes the mainstream media the odds are high for widespread panic. Myself, I dread this happening because the hills will be full of rednecks packing shotguns. Let's see what happens in a week or two, especially if we get another sighting.

The msm does stories on ufo's all the time and not one has caused a panic. So why would a few more pictures shown on tv or in a newspaper cause a panic?

When hundreds of thousands or millions can see a ufo at once then that might cause a panic....like in the movie Independence day.

But pictures of a relatively small drone that is more than likely a cgi causing a panic because it was shown on tv or in a newspaper is beyond absurd.

Just look back to the Chicago O'Hara ufo story. Covered by all the msm and yet no panic.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by etshrtslr]

Originally posted by ZikhaN

Originally posted by wildone106
How can u even imagine it to be a flying gizmo?? How the heck would it propell itself?? Its not REAL. get it??

Well anti-gravity ofcourse. Anti-gravity has supposedly been achieved by mankind since the 2nd world war. So why not?

Sure. Those curvy spikes coming out of the center ring create a gravity wave vortex that is tuned and adjusted by the various appendages. It's the same principle Viktor Schauberger experimented with for the Nazis.

www.americanantigravity.com...

It requires re-incorporating the old Einstein idea of a cosmological constant, which used to be thought of as spatial aether, but has recently been reconcepted as dark energy. The trick is to create a vortex of dark energy, which is at its lowest pressure at the top because of the increased speed of the "stuff" (acting like a fluid). As a result, you have a decreased spatial pressure above the craft, which acts the same way a conventional wing does, that is, it provides lift. The ring base itself acts as a collector and accelerator, which guides the energy into the amplifying funnel. It's not like ion propulsion, which is more straight pushmi-pullyu. Ion propulsion doesn't take advantage of the vectoring forces created by the rotating energy vortex (think Fleming's "Left-Hand Rule" for electric motors, but in multiple dimensions).

Most American flying saucers and fuselage craft use a variation of this method, with the major difference being the vortex drive engine is encased within the ship's hull. This alien design is obviously primarily designed for work in space, and not within an atmosphere, however, I suppose the probes could drop down for a brief, closer look if necessary.

Heh heh.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by SuicideVirus]

Originally posted by spf33
and ats seems to be the only forum that is looking at all these images indepth, out of maybe only 3-4 forums that are talking about these images.

then howcome ATS hasn't come up with these yet..

Scanned images high res

Originally posted by CthulhuRising

then howcome ATS hasn't come up with these yet..

Scanned images high res

This image offers no improved resolution, it's an upscaled version of what aleady exists.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by spf33]

Originally posted by SuicideVirus

Originally posted by ZikhaN

Originally posted by wildone106
How can u even imagine it to be a flying gizmo?? How the heck would it propell itself?? Its not REAL. get it??

Well anti-gravity ofcourse. Anti-gravity has supposedly been achieved by mankind since the 2nd world war. So why not?

Sure. Those curvy spikes coming out of the center ring create a gravity wave vortex that is tuned and adjusted by the various appendages. It's the same principle Viktor Schauberger experimented with for the Nazis.

www.americanantigravity.com...

It requires re-incorporating the old Einstein idea of a cosmological constant, which used to be thought of as spatial aether, but has recently been reconcepted as dark energy. The trick is to create a vortex of dark energy, which is at its lowest pressure at the top because of the increased speed of the "stuff" (acting like a fluid). As a result, you have a decreased spatial pressure above the craft, which acts the same way a conventional wing does, that is, it provides lift. The ring base itself acts as a collector and accelerator, which guides the energy into the amplifying funnel. It's not like ion propulsion, which is more straight pushmi-pullyu. Ion propulsion doesn't take advantage of the vectoring forces created by the rotating energy vortex (think Fleming's "Left-Hand Rule" for electric motors, but in multiple dimensions).

Most American flying saucers and fuselage craft use a variation of this method, with the major difference being the vortex drive engine is encased within the ship's hull. This alien design is obviously primarily designed for work in space, and not within an atmosphere, however, I suppose the probes could drop down for a brief, closer look if necessary.

Heh heh.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by SuicideVirus]

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Okay so I hardly understood anything of what you just wrote, except for the last paragraph. I do get that you're trying to explain how anti-gravity works though. Or?

Anyways are you trying to say that anti-gravity doesn't necessarily have to be alien? You're right, their crafts would be built to take advantage of space, but since anti-gravity can take advantage of practically any part of the universe (space and planets if you will), and is thought to be highly technologically advanced, it would be more accurate to couple it with alien origin.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by ZikhaN]

Research Update:

Been scouring the web for every unusual/alien/runic/ancient/glyph/sci-fi font set I can find to do a comparison with the characters on the underside of our 'craft'.

No direct, conclusive match as yet (though quite a few individual characters from different alphabets).

It's almost as if our designer/CGI artist 'borrowed' a character here and there or copied the style to create a new faux-font of his own. More on that later, but in the meantime, I thought I'd toss you all an interesting find related to our current discussion...

For those of us that have picked apart the SectorSeven site(s), you'll notice that on the bottom of one of the index pages there are some characters that, at first blush, bore a resemblance to some of the characters on our UO craft.

Well - in addition to trying to decipher our UO script I simultaneously looked for a match of the SectorSeven characters. BINGO!

Whoever designed the SectorSeven site took rather unimaginative liberties with the Klingon language of Star Trek fame. Not only are the characters a direct match - right down to the strokes - but the characters, when translated into English, phonetically spell: "GOTCHA!"



Anyway - still hunting, and, in a way this removes a rather intriguing component from our SectorSeven viral marketing theory: If the character set on the SectorSeven/Transformers site is NOT related to our UO Craft - then what the heck is the correlative link to this UO/Image, if any?

No direct craft/aerial vehicle match, no character match, no source/instigator match. Are we at ATS inadvertently contributing to SectorSeven/Transformer marketing without a valid reason?

This just gets curiouser, and curiouser...

NOW GET BACK TO WORK!

Originally posted by CthulhuRising

Originally posted by spf33
and ats seems to be the only forum that is looking at all these images indepth, out of maybe only 3-4 forums that are talking about these images.

then howcome ATS hasn't come up with these yet..

Scanned images high res

These were posted to the Open Minds forum by their member - fore. He got these from C2C I think and they are the hi res pics. The guys over there have done some great analysis from what I can tell.

Here is the link: lucianarchy.proboards21.com...

[edit on 23-5-2007 by rodback]

Originally posted by Outrageo
NOW GET BACK TO WORK!

how closely are you following the sector seven arg, as the arg is really is, the transformers one?

has this "gotcha" been identified and used somewhere else within the transformers arg already?

you've seen this?












[edit on 23-5-2007 by spf33]

Originally posted by ZikhaN

Okay so I hardly understood anything of what you just wrote, except for the last paragraph. I do get that you're trying to explain how anti-gravity works though. Or?

Anyways are you trying to say that anti-gravity doesn't necessarily have to be alien? You're right, their crafts would be built to take advantage of space, but since anti-gravity can take advantage of practically any part of the universe (space and planets if you will), and is thought to be highly technologically advanced, it would be more accurate to couple it with alien origin.

Well, supposedly gravity is the same thing wherever you go. So any anti-gravity design we come up with here on Earth would likely be duplicated by intelligent technicians on other planets (assuming there are any). Think about light, for instance. It doesn't matter whether it's on Earth or wherever, lenses used to manipulate that light are going to be in the same shape. Same thing with the manipulation of gravity or its various associated dimensions. Cone and funnel shapes are common. They form naturally in fluid environments, like tornadoes, and we use them ourselves on things like our rocket exhaust cones. Flying saucers are saucer shaped exactly because a concave surface (i.e., the inside surface of a saucer), is a lensing shape, allowing energy to be directed and focused at specific points external to the ship itself, allowing you to essentially dig yourself a hole in spacetime so that you can fall into it.

The trick is to manipulate the curvature of spacetime (often represented as a funnel) through the use of counter-rotational eddies such that the general gravity environment is amplified or nullified. Anybody who has paddled upstream in a canoe knows what I'm talking about. And the way you manipulate gravity is indirect. That is, ordinarily the only way you could manipulate gravity is to pit mass against mass in a straight-line push and pull. With a smaller antigravity device you utilize the hidden dimensions common to gravity and magnetism to accomplish the manipulation, whether using virtual waveguides or conic/vortex field generators.

This would ordinarily require huge amounts of power, which we only know how to generate through bulky fusion reactors. However, the problem is more easily solved by finesse rather than brute force, by utilizing the curious multi-dimensional properties of certain elements which were discovered during the 1950's when tests were conducted to enhance the yield of atomic bombs.

Anyway, the point is, when you're dealing with the same stuff, whether it's water or air or dark energy, the tools you use to manipulate it are going to end up looking the same no matter who figures it out. Us or them.

Originally posted by spf33

Originally posted by Outrageo
NOW GET BACK TO WORK!

how closely are you following the sector seven arg, as the arg is really is, the transformers one?

has this "gotcha" been identified and used somewhere else withing the transformers arg already?

you've seen this?

The "w" looks like a match but I don't see that the others are that close. They are kinda close but not exact...ya know what I mean?

Originally posted by rodback

Originally posted by CthulhuRising

Originally posted by spf33
and ats seems to be the only forum that is looking at all these images indepth, out of maybe only 3-4 forums that are talking about these images.

then howcome ATS hasn't come up with these yet..

Scanned images high res

These were posted to the Open Minds forum by their member - fore. He got these from C2C I think and they are the hi res pics. The guys over there have done some great analysis from what I can tell.

Here is the link: here

yes, i have been on the omf. been waiting for the reg to go thru. where did the high res images come from? is there just the one?

the one you linked here, it's just an upscale. i have the 1169x767 upscaled to 3000x1968 in layer in photoshop over top of your 3000x1968 image and its exactly the same.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by spf33]

Spf;

Oh yeah... I've seen those, though IMO the match is not that close. There are many other actual, ancient, and fictional language/character sets that make a closer match (some I'm comparing are below).



So far, it seems our designer/artist has either borrowed a character here and there or has stylized an existing font (or fonts) for his own purposes.

I am currently in communique with several linguistic/glyph/writing experts at several universities around the world regarding this and am waiting for some consensus response before reporting back here. Suffice it to say that so far, there is no consistent corollary with any of the Asian languages, nor any of the ancient runic languages, though our UO craft shares a few disparate elements of both.

As it stands now, my guess is that our 'creator' studied a bit of sci-fi movie/game languages (Matrix/Klingon/V/D'ni/Hylian/Aurek-Besh/Sarati etc) and then used a font-creation program to create a hybrid character set which he then incorporated into his CGI work.

Or it's a real UFO... (!)

Originally posted by rodback
These were posted to the Open Minds forum by their member - fore. He got these from C2C I think and they are the hi res pics. The guys over there have done some great analysis from what I can tell.

Here is the link: lucianarchy.proboards21.com...

[edit on 23-5-2007 by rodback]

I wonder why the link to OM does not work? Even after you tried to fix it.

Originally posted by Latitude

I wonder why the link to OM does not work? Even after you tried to fix it.

Obviously part of the conspiracy. If you look on the Om board there is a huge thread on the ATS conspiracy, even to the point of them downloading malware into a member's computer, encouraging 'agents' to monitor the boards (See, I told you about that already! here's 'confirmation!') Many there feel here are too many skeptics here and only their board is for truly open minds.

Originally posted by SuicideVirus

Originally posted by ZikhaN

Okay so I hardly understood anything of what you just wrote, except for the last paragraph. I do get that you're trying to explain how anti-gravity works though. Or?

Anyways are you trying to say that anti-gravity doesn't necessarily have to be alien? You're right, their crafts would be built to take advantage of space, but since anti-gravity can take advantage of practically any part of the universe (space and planets if you will), and is thought to be highly technologically advanced, it would be more accurate to couple it with alien origin.

Well, supposedly gravity is the same thing wherever you go. ...

Woah, that was like a whole essay. Your last paragraph could have been enough T_T I was like "Okay, get to the point already" while I was reading;P

Anyways, I agree. That's practically what I was trying to say when I wrote that anti-gravity works everywhere. It works in space, and it works on planets. Even if the gravity is less than that of Earth, anti-gravity totally eliminates the law of gravity, hence "ANTI-gravity"^^

[edit on 23-5-2007 by ZikhaN]


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