New Drone, similar to the C2C one

Personally.. I think its done for the amusement of watching members rip each other to shreds. Cause that always happens. You guys spend more time doing that then investigating the photos.

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Originally posted by highCT
i know eaglewingz but this case just turned from blah to amazing quick!

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call me crazy but I think it two different crafts above? the writing is different and the wing is just a bit different. very odd no? i wonder what will come of this and if i will start seeing these crafts now instead of the fire orbs LOL

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What is that? Kind've looks like klingon sanscript. Q'Plah!

Originally posted by carnival_of_souls2047

Originally posted by highCT
i know eaglewingz but this case just turned from blah to amazing quick!

img134.imageshack.us...

call me crazy but I think it two different crafts above? the writing is different and the wing is just a bit different. very odd no? i wonder what will come of this and if i will start seeing these crafts now instead of the fire orbs LOL

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What is that? Kind've looks like klingon sanscript. Q'Plah!

lol, I was thinking the same thing....
also looks similar Japanese Katakana and some Greek as well.....

anyone else have any new info?

Originally posted by schuyler
Take a look at these pics from a strictly aerodynamic point of view. Leave CGI out of this entirely.

A modern airplane (well, any flyable airplane, actually) is aerodynamic because of the shape of its wings.
rest of obvious dribble snipped

We already know these things are not conventional aircraft that use "wings". So what's your point? A really good analysis of a possible mode of propulsion was already submitted by jhamende and somebody else where the ring houses a superconducting anti-grav device.

Originally posted by Dulcimer
Does anyone else think this could be the start of some sort of viral marketing?

That is what I am thinking at the moment.

Yes, This is total bull****! These are fake! FAKE FOR GOD'S SAKE!

Originally posted by schuyler
...A modern airplane (well, any flyable airplane, actually) is aerodynamic because of the shape of its wings. Air coming over the leading edge of a wing takes longer to get to the trailing edge than air going under the bottom of the wing...
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I'm not entirely sure this is true. Isn't most mordern aircraft like F-22 and such unable to fly without the computer on board because it's not aerodynamic by design? I remember seeing some documentary or such where this issue was discussed.

Originally posted by Latitude
We already know these things are not conventional aircraft that use "wings". So what's your point? A really good analysis of a possible mode of propulsion was already submitted by jhamende and somebody else where the ring houses a superconducting anti-grav device.

The point is as I stated. The 'wings' are non-functional. So why are they there? I already agreed that the ring could be a propulsion system. But overall, the craft is made to look 'aircraft like' to enhance it's believability. I'm saying that strictly from an aerodynamic point of view, it's fake. If that's all gibberish to you, gee, I'm sorry.

I've been "fine-toothing" the two craft for the last few hours. One thing I'm noticing is that there are a few places where the image similarities are too strong to be coincidental. For example, if you look in the center ring of each craft the small, squarish bent-wire protrusions in a few places are virtually identical, e.g.,:




I merely cropped and flipped the ring portion of one of the images and the protrusions line up almost perfectly - too perfectly. To me this lends a bit of extra credence to the CGI argument.

I'm still hoping this these are terrestrial drones, or even better, "the real McCoys", but alas, it is appearing less so...

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[edit on 5/22/2007 by Outrageo]

Originally posted by schuyler

Originally posted by Latitude
We already know these things are not conventional aircraft that use "wings". So what's your point? A really good analysis of a possible mode of propulsion was already submitted by jhamende and somebody else where the ring houses a superconducting anti-grav device.

The point is as I stated. The 'wings' are non-functional. So why are they there? I already agreed that the ring could be a propulsion system. But overall, the craft is made to look 'aircraft like' to enhance it's believability. I'm saying that strictly from an aerodynamic point of view, it's fake. If that's all gibberish to you, gee, I'm sorry.

If anyone looks at this thing from a conventional "aerodynamic point of view" they will always label it fake. That's because conventional aerodynamics don't apply to it at all. To understand what I'm saying you have to use unconventional thinking.

The "wings", as you have called them, may not be used to propel or levitate this object at all. They may serve a completely different purpose. My thoughts are the small "wings" might be sensors or antenna. The large "wings" may be storage or cooling tanks. Notice the large wings have two tubes connecting the segments together? One for input and one for output. I think the cage on top may be a concentrator/transmitter/receiver array.

I know it may hurt but you if to think outside the box to grasp these concepts.

Originally posted by SloS13
For those of you saying it's a man-made drone.

1. The machines don't use any known propulsion (I dont see any props or turbines).

2. If we do have drones with some completely new propulsion, they wouldn't be flying around where people could take pictures of them.

Agreed, and:

3. They wouldn't have made-up "alien" markings on the bottom either.

BTW - man-made or otherwise, if you saw this on your morning stroll, would anyone here be brave enough to stand under the thing and photograph it?

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Originally posted by Outrageo
I've been "fine-toothing" the two craft for the last few hours. One thing I'm noticing is that there are a few places where the image similarities are too strong to be coincidental. For example, if you look in the center ring of each craft the small, squarish bent-wire protrusions in a few places are virtually identical, e.g.,

Why would they not be identical? They are likely mass produced. That's like saying Ford Mustangs must be CGI because they all have identical headlights

[edit on 22-5-2007 by Latitude]

Originally posted by jhamende
ArMap, the craft is a giant ring!!!

It does not look that big to me.

If it was a giant ring then the shadow in the inside of the ring should have a more smooth edge because it was the shadow of something at a greater distance. That sharp shadow is one of the things that makes me think that it is not a very large object, if it's a object.

and a coil would be in the ring itself wrapped around the inside of the ring like an alternator wrapped over and over.

I understood it as a rotating ring on top of a non-rotating coil.

And you say "superconducting coil capable of sustain "enough current (whatever that means)." I figured you would know, but that means a conductor capable of conducting large amounts of amperage.

Do you know the amperage that we are talking about? I don't, and apparently, the scientist that said that did not knew it also because it said "enough current".

Someone asked how one of these might work and I posted a response with the closest explanation possible from actual physicists.

And for that I thank you.

And yes this is a giant ring so It does resemble what the scientist are describing!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is one of the problems, we do not have any easy way of knowing the size of that thing, but, to me, it does not look big and it does not even look like it was really there.

This just in from the "Contact ATS Button":

Hello, I have been following the C2C drone fotos, and found mention of it on your boards. I am interested in joining, but thought that this information should get to you guys asap about the drones and maybe you could share it... I am not sure the boards would like a newbies input, ha ha...

Anyway, there is some speculation in the posts that the drone is a possible Transformers movie viral marketing campaign...

I had been already thinking that since the first Chad photos appeared on the C2C website, because I had already stumbled upon a viral marketing website set up for the movie! On the website it shows video and stills of possible 'aliens' on a fake Shadow Agency called Sector7.
www.sectorseven.org...
They have had numerous passwords leaked through the ads and trailers, and the most current password is: GRAVESEN But if you log in using the code: codeblack Then you can see some text very similar to the markings on the underside of the C2C drone ufo

In addition to the photos on their site they also have photos of activists protesting them etc... There is also a site that is like a activist anti site called www.vector-sigma.org...
password: MEGAMAN (all caps)
I am not sure if you need to log in to the site to see this link:
www.vector-sigma.org...
but it is a 'document' that states that the 'Shadow Agengy' has known for a very long time about the Transformers, but have kept it hidden from the general public.

There is also a comic book series prequel that has come out setting up the movie, and describes drones looking for the Allspark.

it is also interesting to note that ILM, the special effects house that worked on the movies is almost directly between Tahoe, and Capitola Ca. In fact, the drone would have had to have flown over I-5 without being seen to go from Tahoe to Capitola, almost passing over Skywalker Ranch on the way!
Please pass this info on! Maybe the posters should look into finding those comic books, and seeing if the 'drone' is similar to crafts in the Tansformer universe. It could also be for the Fanstastic Four, silver surfer...
Take care,

Springer...

Originally posted by Latitude
I know it may hurt but you if to think outside the box to grasp these concepts.

No need to get nasty and personal there Latitude, though I must say I don't understand what "it may hurt but you if to think" means. If you are not a native English speaker, then I apologize. But "These concepts," as you put them, are total guesswork. "Storage units"? Is there any evidence of that whatsoever or are you just tossing up ideas seeing what will stick? "Maybe" they are this. "Maybe" they are that. "Maybe" does not constitute analysis. Every supporting point I have read so far about these pics is total conjecture.

What is amazing to me is the vitriolic defense of these things without any supporting evidence. What makes these things so important that they must be real at all costs? What makes these pictures so important that you resort to calling people's contributions 'gibberish' and accusing them of NOT thinking "outside the box."

That's a pretty lofty post to place yourself on. I see no evidence whatsoever that you are thinking more innovatively than anyone else here. I think you'd better make sure 'thinking outside the box' doesn't mean 'thinking outside the atmosphere.'

From what I see, they look similar to Final Fantasy airships. I'm on-board with the people who would like to see this on video. I might be nuts, but wouldn't something like this be reported by thousands of people if it was clearly visible in broad daylight?

Originally posted by Latitude

If anyone looks at this thing from a conventional "aerodynamic point of view" they will always label it fake. That's because conventional aerodynamics don't apply to it at all. To understand what I'm saying you have to use unconventional thinking.

The "wings", as you have called them, may not be used to propel or levitate this object at all. They may serve a completely different purpose. My thoughts are the small "wings" might be sensors or antenna. The large "wings" may be storage or cooling tanks. Notice the large wings have two tubes connecting the segments together? One for input and one for output. I think the cage on top may be a concentrator/transmitter/receiver array.

I know it may hurt but you if to think outside the box to grasp these concepts.

Hmmm, okay then. We have one of the FATHERS of PHOTOSHOP, David Biedny (google that name) who knows it's CGI and YOU feel the need to "preach" to us about thinking outside the box?

I am all for having an open mind but I am not going to let my brain fall out mate.

Going forward, I suggest you add your ON TOPIC commentary and speculation without the personal jibes.

Springer...

Originally posted by Springer
This just in from the "Contact ATS Button":

and what connections are there between paramount pictures and clear channel if any?

does clear channel mind being used for free advertising thru viral marketing on c2c?

i dunno, i don't really see anything in those links that resemebles or even really hints at our object here.

Originally posted by Springer

...who knows it's CGI and YOU feel the need to "preach" to us about thinking outside the box?

Springer...

unless he's actually working on this as a project, he knows nothing.

he is making assumptions that these images are fakes.

Springer,
Thanks for the "heads-up" !! Very interesting, indeed !

If you're able to contact this source, tell him/her that ATS would
love to have them aboard ! (I'm sure you have, though)

Again, thanks !
Lex

P.S. Have you looked around the sites the source referenced ?

In regards to what was posted about the transformers sight. I find it interesting that if you go thru the site(s) they have NSA stuff on iraq and troop deployment. Rather unusual for a viral marketing campaign.

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