Ron paul to be removed..

Wow, this is my first exposure to Ron Paul. What in independent thinker! Great to see. Great Cynthia McKinney link as well. I think it's easy to be a pessimist these days but that's for whiners and quitters. Sure, acknowledge the lies and propaganda. Admit that we no longer live in a true democracy (have we ever?). Now what?

I love that term Cold Civil War. It's very accurate. The majority of the public now understand that their votes simply don't count. Bush and his ilk will do whatever they choose. They believe we are sheep, widgets, fodder units. I wonder how much the average citizen will be willing, ultimately, to take?

But see, they are masters of deception and illusion. See how the immigration reform issue is now the top subject of the media? And it successfully causes a significant percentage of the populace, perhaps the less educated populace, to focus on that issue. It is the new engine of fear since fear of Osama and al Qaeda has worn off.

Would that getting rid of these people would be as simple as dropping a ring into the crack of doom.

Originally posted by infinityoreilly
My apologies Leyla for my calusness, I'm trying to explain how the average Joe(thats me,cabinet maker in an industrial west coast port city) feels right now. I've been awake now since Chistmas 2006, I've done as much research on the anomalies 911 as I can without destroying the rest of my life through neglegence. I think I'm hip to the overall vibe that is the truth movement. I'm ready to die for the cause of truth.

Thats all right Infinity. I'm sorry I got upset too. Ron Paul however is in the Republican party, if he ran on a third ticket then no one will know who he is. He actually has a better chance as a republican. So spread the word and let people know who Ron Paul is. That is if you support him. If you don't then thats your right. But if his popularity wanes between now and the election or he withdraws. I do have a second choice canadate.

I say we give Ron Paul a chance. If he don't make it or if he turns on us after he gets in, then its time for guns. This is it for me, it's do or die time for this government.

Originally posted by Leyla
[ But if his popularity wanes between now and the election or he withdraws. I do have a second choice canadate.

I too have a second choice, if Ron Paul doesn't make it to the finals. If he does I will most likely vote for him. It's a long road to the primaries, and the attacks will get more organized. He will be quoted and those quotes will be taken out of context and used to slander his record. And maybe if he actually becomes a real threat than someone close to him will be threatened like happened to Ross Perot. He pulled out of the race when his daughter was threatened, later he reentered but his momentum was lost. I hope for the best for America, but I expect buisness as usual unless the country is really ready to put our red/blue tribalism on the back burner for awhile.

If Guliani keeps on complaining about Ron Paul people

might think RP is as bad as Bush and vote him in.

I mean Bush had no agenda, he was just elected as a nobody.

Well JFK JR. had to get out of his way first.

Bush had no agenda until after 911.

He might have done the same things without 911 and the UN stonewall

but he had no good reason to be that inventive.

Well since it won't make a difference who is elected president, might as well vote for one who's saying the things you wanna hear.

If there is any little hope that he's not tied to the N.W.O agenda and he would be a pain in the ass to them if he was president.

I say, go ahead and vote for Ron in the hopes that he is the real deal. (my opinion only)

[edit on 22-5-2007 by selfless]

Originally posted by selfless
Well since it won't make a difference who is elected president, might as well vote for one who's saying the things you wanna hear.

If there is any little hope that he's not tied to the N.W.O agenda and he would be a pain in the ass to them if he was president.

I say, go ahead and vote for Ron.

Selfless I have been keeping my mouth shut this whole time in regards to your other posts. I won't say how upset I was over someone telling me who to vote for. If that wasn't your intention then what was? Why are you so worried on which canadate we vote for? Have you done any research on any of the canadates? Then how do you know what Ron Paul stands for? If he wasn't tied the the NWO agenda do you really think the GOP would be making such a fuss in trying to ban him from the debates? No- simple answer.

I'm sorry but I had to get this out. I'm glad you approve.

Originally posted by Leyla

Originally posted by selfless
Well since it won't make a difference who is elected president, might as well vote for one who's saying the things you wanna hear.

If there is any little hope that he's not tied to the N.W.O agenda and he would be a pain in the ass to them if he was president.

I say, go ahead and vote for Ron.

Selfless I have been keeping my mouth shut this whole time in regards to your other posts. I won't say how upset I was over someone telling me who to vote for. If that wasn't your intention then what was? Why are you so worried on which canadate we vote for? Have you done any research on any of the canadates? Then how do you know what Ron Paul stands for? If he wasn't tied the the NWO agenda do you really think the GOP would be making such a fuss in trying to ban him from the debates? No- simple answer.

I'm sorry but I had to get this out. I'm glad you approve.

No i never said don't vote for Ron Paul.

I think you misinterpreted my posts.

All i was saying is, it's very unlikely that there will be a president if it's not part of an agenda.

Presidents are just actors, there hasn't been a real president since JFK and he got murdered, figures.

By all means go ahead and vote for Ron Paul.

My intentions in this thread was so that people don't let hope for Ron Paul blind them into thinking that everything will be alright if he is elected president.

That's all i was trying to do, tell the truth.

Originally posted by Leyla
If he wasn't tied the the NWO agenda do you really think the GOP would be making such a fuss in trying to ban him from the debates? No- simple answer.

How on earth can you even be a candidate to be president and not be part of the N.W.O agenda if the political system is a designed illusion by them in the first place?

Do you see what I'm saying?

I never told you who to vote for Leyla and i never told you not to vote.

I was just exposing the political system for what it really is.

Sorry, I did not listen to the debates.

Sure the Republican candidate is important and possibly the next President.

Just because he brings up 911 and Al-Qeda or reasons for war into
a Republican debate, a non issue for them since a Republican put us there
for good or bad reasons, does not guarantee Ron can make sense out of
a fight we were told we would not be in. IRAQ was to be well behaved
and welcome us.

Weather it was 911 or not, our presence might have been necessary in
IRAQ and elsewhere.

911 is now a issue unto itself, thats the objection.

However I don't see 911 being brought up again, by way of Ron Pauls
removal or not.

This just in----

Key GOP Group Endorses Ron Paul

May 22, 2007

ARLINGTON, VA - The United Republicans of California (UROC) have unanimously endorsed Congressman Ron Paul for president of the United States. UROC, formed in 1963 to support Barry Goldwater, represents the traditional conservative wing of the California Republican Party.

"The unanimous endorsement from the United Republicans of California proves what the campaign has been saying all along," said campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Ron Paul is the only true conservative and real Republican in the race."

In their official statement endorsing Dr. Paul, UROC called him "the leading advocate for freedom in our nation's capital" and recognized that:

Ron Paul's voting record demonstrates that he has voted against:

· raising taxes;
· unbalanced budgets;
· a federal restriction on gun ownership;
· raising congressional pay; or
· increasing the power of the executive branch.

His voting record demonstrates further that he voted against:

· the USA Patriot Act;
· regulating the Internet; and
· the war in Iraq.

Dr. Paul is the only candidate with a record that matches the UROC's platform.

"Whether the issue is life, the Second Amendment, foreign policy, spending or taxes, Ron Paul is the only traditional conservative candidate," continued Snyder. "Traditional conservatives across the country should support Ron Paul for president."


www.ronpaul2008.com...

bbs.freetalklive.com...


this is a good forum thats talking ron paul. free talk live is a huge help to the ron paul movement. its not just about ron paul its about all the crap that is happening around us. they want small government and show how government and the laws are out of control...taking our rights away from us.....but really dont give a rats a$$ about the conspiracy part...but they do get the calls on it. hope to see you over there. btw get FTLs podcast. its awsome. oh yeah i would get alex jones podcast too. hes a bit more in your face and very much against this NWO and exposes them daily. his brodcast since the debates have been about the conspiracy around the ron paul blackout and spin that fox has done with the polls and all of it.....he is one of the main forces that is exposing what our govenment is really doing to us. ron paul has been on his show many times and ron will be on alex's show next tuesday i believe for an hour. check out alex's pod cast and site www.prisonplanet.com...








[edit on 22-5-2007 by Funkydung]

It's now or never America..

When is the next debate`?
Make sure to create a new thread after the next TV debate with Ron Paul -

...
Russo radio interview InfoWars..

There is a big one on June 5th on CNN.

Great - I think It would be cool to start some thread about 5th June a couple of days before that date.

So that you could all warm up before the debate on CNN.
Like a football match... Make some coffe for the family and stuff..
You know like a gathering...somthing nice - To make your children remember...

I mean like the moonlanding.

Tell your family about this new candidate..
Goto your freinds family and watch that debate on CNN..
Make it interresting.

Start a thread about 5th June CNN Debate..
A week before it takes place.

Who wants to start such a thread..?

Your thread allready exsits. Just keep making posts here and I'll keep assimilating information and posting.

OK lets think this through a bit. If Ron Paul starts winning primaries, there will be threats on his life and the lives of his children, it's guaranteed. If he is successful, he will, in all likelihood be assassinated or become the victim of a character assassination program. No one who supports the dismantling of the federal reserve is going to escape the ire of the international banksters. Perhaps they don't care now, because their control is assured via electronic voting machines, I don't know.

However suppose that Ron actually wins what happens next? What happens is that he begins to end foreign aid and to start closing down U.S. bases overseas. U.S. bases, like it or not, constitutional or not fill a power vacuum in the areas where they are deployed. When they are removed our enemies will move in. As in times past when America has embraced isolationalism, they will view America as weak and the time for the assault on America will begin. It's inevitable. It is likely to hasten WWIII, which is probably inevitable anyway.

Despite this analysis Ron Paul has my support and my vote during the primary elections. He is truly the last conservative of a dying breed and the only principled legislator I have seen among the recent spineless shadow government lapdogs we've had for leaders. He is the only leader that has an interest in upholding the U.S. constitution. His direction is the principled one and the correct one, far closer to the ideals of our founding fathers, than the wretched marxists (like George Bush and the Clintons) we've dealt with so far. I'll be praying for him.....

this ranking on MSNBC that, no duh, bashes Ron Paul and has him in dead last. But the comment on him by msnbc is seriously funny.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

for those to lazy to click and poke around he is ranked last (12th) and the comment is "Just please stop e-mailing us. Thanks."

How sad the bias in the media isn't even hidden when its directed at Ron Paul.

Yes - I read that poll some days ago - One more thing to notice on that list is the number of words..
It rise in number of words near the top..

Just like a reverse pyramid. of words.
total fraud I think..

But funny Is a pretty good word to express that poll page.
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And that CNN Debate - lets just see what happends of activity here..
It's basically the same subject - about Ron being Rejected in one way or another..

Rudy is getting schooled by Ron. He gave Rudy a list of books to read based on foreign policy also the commision report on 9-11. And deemed Rudy 'Unqualified' to Be President.


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