University Apologizes For Using Slave Labor

Exactly, most of the migration of white people came much later and it seems that these people and their descendants are been blame for something that others did before they even were here.

And still many forget that the first slaves in the US were indenture slaves and they were not black either.

The Forgotten Slaves: Whites in Servitude in Early America and Industrial Britain

www.revisionisthistory.org...

They were white and they were many just children, the untold story of the first slaves.

The chronicle of White slavery in America comprises the dustiest shelf in the darkest corner of suppressed American history. Should the truth about that epoch ever emerge into the public consciousness of Americans, the whole basis for the swindle of "Affirmative action," "minority set-asides" and proposed "Reparations to African-Americans" will be swept away. The fact is, the White working people of this country owe no one. They are themselves the descendants, as Congressman Wilmot so aptly said, of "the sons of toil."

Who is apologizing for them.

What I want? Everyone to treat each other like they're equal.

Just today I was talking to a cab driver about the tip issue. I work in a restaurant as a server.

Why is it that probably 80% of the black people I wait on (and other people too, it's a universal thing known by anyone in the restaurant industry) do not tip, or tip very badly?

Commonly, regardless of the bill, black people will either not tip, or tip very low with respect to their check - eg, one day this week, I received $2 on a $50 check, and $0 on a $50 check.

This is not me having a "racist" or otherwise bad attitude in any way. I'm very very good at what I do, and in no way am I racist, nor have I ever been. I grew up in the UK, not the US, and I judge people based on how they act and how they treat me, not *any* other criteria.

This is not all black people. This is not a sweeping generalisation, however, talk to anyone who works in an industry where their income is tips, and they will tell you the same thing. There are some black people who will tip and tip well, and be really great people, great customers. There are also some white people that are a pain in the ass and do not tip. However, percentage-wise, black customers are more work, less money, in general, than any other race.

I'm honestly curious to know if there's a reason that I can work really hard waiting on that table - in general black people are also statistically more likely to have complex orders, unusual requests, or expect even things that we're not actually supposed to do, as well as expecting 100% of my time and attention - but yet not receive due compensation for that. Is it because I'm white? Is it because they assume I'm getting paid to wait on them? (that whole $2.65 goes a long way... especially once you take out taxes and healthcare for those massive $0.0 paychecks). If you do not tip, I actually LOSE money waiting on you, because not only do my other guests suffer, but I have to tip out the bartender and busser 2% of what you spend.. So if you spend $50, and tip 0, I pay $1 for the privilege of waiting on you. This isn't something I get a choice about, it's a corporate restaurant, and the bartender still has to make your drinks, and the busser still has to clean your table, even if I don't get money from you at all.

I reject the argument of "too poor to tip" by the way, since if you are excessively poor, to the point where you can't afford to tip, why are you eating out? Or what is that roll of $50's and $100's doing in your hand when you pay me? Or why are you adding extra things to your check?



So yeah, what's up with that?




[edit on 26-4-2007 by Inannamute]

oops, double.

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I figured the article was going to be about them using sweatshop labour to make their school clothing or something. That's just ridiculous.

I don't think they should be apologizing for something they were never involved in 200 years ago, let alone sitting around making up stupid things like this.

All they are doing out is pointing out the differences in people and never letting it die down, instead of actually promoting people as equal they just keep bringing up crap from the past. Probably why racism is once again ON THE RISE. Yes, racism is exploding once again, probably due to all the politically correct stuff going on. I've begun hearing racist comments from people I never would have thought.

[edit on 26-4-2007 by Yarcofin]

Originally posted by Dissension
They were ordered to shoot because they were attacked! I agree that it was a tragedy that so many people died; a horrible tragedy, but it didn't give them the right to shoot at their rescuers. Then you have people stealing BEER! I can understand taking food. In fact, I would do the same in their situation, but BEER?

Now, as far as the subculture, you know EXACTLY what I am talking about. It sounds like you are trying to bait me. I see your trolling motor. Ain't going to bite. Especially with that biggot hero of yours in your profile. I'm above that.

We all came from Adam. I wish some people would realize that. Take care dude.

Peace.

To start off im not going to stoop to your level like i really want to and call you all sorts of names that God wouldnt be proud of. I'll just respond as civily as possible.

First I'm not trying to bait you. I really am trying to figure out what the hell this subculture you are referring to is it the rap, references to slavery what???I dont know what the hell is in your mind. I think your problem is that YOU KNOW what you mean and its going to be offensive/ignorant and im not going to like it. But hey speak your mind if your too ashamed to state your opinion maybe you should try changing it.Malcolm X= bigot hero um you obiously dont know history like i said before.. watch the movie.read the book. After you do all this then you can holla at me and we can debate/converse over malcolm x.dont perpetuate ignorance please. How many people were stealing BEER? Everone i say had diapors water, etc. If you saw someone steal beer then thats an exception, it he was just an idiot anyways (but then again you need something to calm you down after going throught that ordeal and members of your family has died and you have a 2yr. screaming b/c she's thirsty plus you've got some guard waving a gun at you not answering your question. hell i'd drink too). They did not attack their rescuers' b/c they were not being rescued. They were being contained there is a big diff. these are/were human beings and some (not all) of those gaurds treated them like animals. So what would you do if after a few days, multiple deaths in the family, everythng you have worked for is gone, you are surrounded by sewege water, and yu see reporters and gaurds coming in and out of the city but you cant leave you just might get a bit violent yourself.

IVYMIKE i just wanted to say that although we disagree i appreciate the fact that you have tried to keep this on a civil level unlike some people.
Last im tired of saying this but I am a female.

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos
IVYMIKE i just wanted to say that although we disagree i appreciate the fact that you have tried to keep this on a civil level unlike some people.
Last im tired of saying this but I am a female.

Don't worry is hard to tell the gender of members just by name and avatar.

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptorSo the two images of black people are: Rappers and Gangstas or Jesse and Al.

:shrugs:

Actually, that's FOUR images. But I wouldn't expect you to know that, you ignorant David Duke mother...

Originally posted by truthseeka

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptorSo the two images of black people are: Rappers and Gangstas or Jesse and Al.

:shrugs:

Actually, that's FOUR images.

But I wouldn't expect you to know that, you ignorant David Duke mother...

Actually they're two different sets of images. So saying the two "images" is just fine.

Just try and wrap your mind around that one. I know you can do it!

[edit on 26-4-2007 by RetinoidReceptor]

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Actually they're two different sets of images. So saying the two "images" is just fine.

Just try and wrap your mind around that one. I know you can do it!

[edit on 26-4-2007 by RetinoidReceptor]

Bask in your ignorance.

Gangster is NOT equal to rapper, and Jesse Jackson is NOT equal to Al Sharpton. Therefore, you have no sets of images. Therefore, you still need to brush up on basic math skills.

Mmmm I see what hes saying? I relate gangsters and rappers as the same image, as I also relate both jesse jackson and al sharpton as the same image, I also include ambulance chasing attorneys in the same category as well.

Truth, you really seem very angry.

Hate is poison.

Originally posted by truthseeka

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptorSo the two images of black people are: Rappers and Gangstas or Jesse and Al.

:shrugs:

Actually, that's FOUR images.

But I wouldn't expect you to know that, you ignorant David Duke mother...

So, are you basically calling this member a racist? In a nasty manner I might add?

Originally posted by truthseeka

Gangster is NOT equal to rapper,

I believe is many rappers that has been involved in some gangster related issues, and some has die from confrontations also, yes some are related to gangster activities.

and Jesse Jackson is NOT equal to Al Sharpton.

But don't they pursue the same issues and the same goal? and where one is on the media scoring points so the other one also try to get points too.

I am sorry but I could not help myself with the comparisons.

rappers DO NOT EQUAL gangsters. Just because some are doesnt mean all are. thats like saying some white people are racist that means all. (see how that doest add up)

gang·ster Pronunciation[gang-ster]
–noun
a member of a gang of criminals

Dictionary

Bow wow not a gangster, eve,trina foxy brown, jackie o, common,angie martinez, baby bash, big daddy kane, nas, nelly, outkast, q-tip, rakim,eminem, bubba sparxx, will.i.am, will smith, redman, method man, mims, rich boyying yang twins..i could go on. There is a diff. between having hard lyrics and being a gangster. Between having done things in your past and being a gangster. hell even pretty ricky raps and they sure as hell arent gangsters (if you dont know who they are...look it up)

Some rappers are gangsterrs. Some rappers WERE gangsters, Some rappers are not gangsters. So you see there is a spectrum..moral of the story do not overgeneralize.

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos
..moral of the story do not overgeneralize.

Good point IC. I hope one of our members here will eventually get that point.

Originally posted by marg6043
I believe is many rappers that has been involved in some gangster related issues, and some has die from confrontations also, yes some are related to gangster activities.

And? That means gangster = rapper? Please.

White men in suits steal more money than ANYONE else, but you don't see white collar worker = crook. I wonder why that is...

But don't they pursue the same issues and the same goal? and where one is on the media scoring points so the other one also try to get points too.

Again, there is no equation here. It's like saying George Bush and Bill O Reilly are the same.

Besides, my issue was with him saying that the black image is rappers and gangsters. Truly an ignorant statement, and if you agree, put on the shoes.

So making now comments on Black is now been racist? or making comments on anything that is realted to blacks is racist?

I don't get it, and I am not putting any shoes just because you feel all mighty and selfrighteous in your opinions.

For been a truth Seeker you are blocking the truth about the issues in this nation that has been perpetuated for the pleasure of keeping racism a none dying issue.

Well you make a comment about a group of people in which 99.7% are black.What do you exect us to think. I dont here you or anyone else saying Country music stars are wife beaters. even though some have been arrested for that. It would be one thing if you said "There are some rappers who life like gangsters" ok you wouldnt be wrong. But you overgeneralized. BTW what does this have to do w/ the OP

Okay I'll explain the correlation between rappers and gangsters and al sharpton and jesse jackson if I MUST for the slower individuals here.

al sharpton and jesse jackson-"civil rights" leaders, whenever there is an issue about a black person and a white person or society, they come in and play the race card.

gangsters and rappers-not only are some rappers gangsters or former gangsters, but rappers portray the "thug life" and often sing about shootups and sex and the ghetto as well as using ghetto slang and dressing like gang members (minus the bling bling of course).

So you see my friends, they can be grouped into two categories and thus 2 main perceived images of black people in America today (not all play the race card -though lots of them do. and not all are rappers or gangsters)

For those of you that have problems categorizing things, we do that when things are similar and we can find correlations between the two.

Lesson closed!

[edit on 26-4-2007 by RetinoidReceptor]

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos
"There are some rappers who life like gangsters"

Yes and also denigrate black women with their own music. Perpetuating the racism.

OK you wouldnt be wrong.

Wrong? I still don't get it, but I can tell this much, I refuse to be politically correct just because some may get offended.

I am Spanish, black, Italian and taino, guess what If I am to feel offended anytime one of the races on me get targeted with jokes, denigrating music, comments and opinions, I will have not life, but I have to brush it out and keep on going, with the biggest smile in my face.

But you overgeneralized.

Well I think that I have the right to overgeneralized if I want to. because to tell you the truth that is how been done so far. Keep the division fed and fueled.

BTW what does this have to do w/ the OP

You are right it doesn't have anything to do with, but that happen a while back and everybody seemed to enjoy it.

BTW can we just learn to love each other?

Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Okay I'll explain the correlation between rappers and gangsters and al sharpton and jesse jackson if I MUST for the slower individuals here.

gangsters and rappers-not only are some rappers gangsters or former gangsters, but rappers portray the "thug life" and often sing about shootups and sex and the ghetto as well as using ghetto slang and dressing like gang members (minus the bling bling of course).

Please dont insult my intelligence as i did not insult yours. Let me ask you this....I speak with 'ghetto slang'. Talk about sex and shooting(not committed by myself of course). does that make me a gangster? . You said it yourself SOME rappers potray this lifestyle. So if we use your logic then if SOME members in a group focus on something then there is a correlation. SOME white people are racists, dont want black people to suceed, think we should still be enslaved. So that means there is a correlation and white people=racists. Right?