Physical Immortality

Originally posted by Harper_
lol, didn't say I was leaving Earth in in 4-5 months, no, I may be leaving these boards in in 4-5 months, (at best)

my bad i thought you said this:/

Originally posted by Harper_
(I won't be coming back to earth, that is, I still have at least four or five months here though)

you do see how i got that right??? hopefully next time you learn how to express yourself more clearly. o and thank for laughing and not answer my question shows your superior state of mind

Originally posted by Harper_
The way I think is alot diffirent to the way you all think

im most certain you have no idea how i or any one of us here think. and i dont appreciate your condescending tone, toward our way of thinking.


one thing i know if you treat the people close to you like this, immortal or not your gonna die alone.




and ill end with this

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

Harper_ ...until you let me run you over with my truck, TWICE, bury you with a tombstone and make sure the undertaker did his job right...and then you come knocking on my door a few hours (or even a few days later) telling me. "see I told you" this is all BS!!!!

People and all their theories and beliefs and this, that, and the other thing...but NONE of them ever are willing to PROVE anything...or willing to hang it all out there to show the world....sorry man...as of this moment...you or anyone being immortal is like Madonna being a virgin!

The only way to ever believe in immortality of any type is to disbelieve in everything around you. Disbelieve what your eye's see, what your body feels, smells, touches, disbelieve what you think.

By disbelieving in reality you are exposing yourself to the power's of the world beyond. Reality dictates that you have been born, you have grown, you have aged, you will die and cease to exist. But if you believe in a spirit, if you disbelieve in the lie that is your current existance you will be able to achieve something. What you achieve is fearlessness. You will be reckless because chaos is the only way to destroy you and you're surrounding. Destroy the reality, destroy the body, destroy the mind, reach death quicker and you'll be one step closer to immortality.

Harper think's he's physically immortal, maybe that mean's hes not afraid to die, because he believes in spirit. He also says that immortal's can be hurt. Which further proves my point that his view of physical immortality is just fearlessness itself. He is not afraid to die, not afraid of anything that will happen to him physically because he is immortal from the physical, he is the immortal spirit that can not be physically destroyed because to him the physical does not exist.

physically immortality does not exist, harper is either insane or crazy. We all know deep down that only God is immortal. If we were god's wouldn't you think you'd have control over your life? The truth is you and I do not have control over our lives. We are mortals, for you to believe that you are immortal like god is bad karma in itself. Play your position, don't believe you are anything more than what you are. It would only be setting yourself for a grim awakening when you challenge God himself.

Originally posted by BeyondPlanetEarth

How did does one achieve immortality?

Slowly through understanding

Mephorium, you don't know your arss from your elbow,

Hi Harper!

I think that this 'state of immortality' you are talking about is achieved with a 'state of mind'...

am I close?...

Originally posted by Glyph_D

Originally posted by Harper_
lol, didn't say I was leaving Earth in in 4-5 months, no, I may be leaving these boards in in 4-5 months, (at best)

my bad i thought you said this:/

Originally posted by Harper_
(I won't be coming back to earth, that is, I still have at least four or five months here though)

you do see how i got that right??? hopefully next time you learn how to express yourself more clearly. o and thank for laughing and not answer my question

shows your superior state of mind

Originally posted by Harper_
The way I think is alot diffirent to the way you all think

im most certain you have no idea how i or any one of us here think. and i dont appreciate your condescending tone, toward our way of thinking.


one thing i know if you treat the people close to you like this, immortal or not your gonna die alone.




and ill end with this

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

Its your ego that is fragile here, I laugh because I thought it an honest mistake (on your part), and as for your way of thinking, yes I do, you are for the most part still very physical in your way of thinking,
you will never understand anything I say here if you continue to think in such crude terms,

You do realise who much pressure I'm under just writting this stuff here?
there are alot of people who don't want you to know about this,
and all the most of you want to do is waste time trying to give me a hard time?, you will never get anyone else come here a discuss this with you,

I'm here (in this forum) for a very limited time, if you choose to waste you that is up to you, but will not see it again,

I answer as many question (of any kind) as I can, some will be answered later, when that reply would have more bearing, if you don't like that, then leave, or I will, I have already wasted too much time replying to this crap,

Discuss this subject, and this subject alone from now on,
I will not reply to anything else, if you have a question try and keep it to just one at a time (but you can be as deep as you like)
I will try to reply to all, but if I miss one (or you missed my reply) ask me again,

If you choose to talk about crap, instead of this subject, I will not waste anymore time here and head for another site

(and yes, I understand that if I've already stated that I won't be replying to any more crap, they will still do it, funny that)

Originally posted by untilted
Hi Harper!

I think that this 'state of immortality' you are talking about is achieved with a 'state of mind'...

am I close?...

Very close

and...

Originally posted by Harper_
There is not just one technique, but diffrent parts of the world tend to lean more towards ways related to their culture,

A way someone in say the US or the UK, will tend to be diffrent to someone in India or China

There are many many diffrent ways to reach this state,

as far as I know there is one similarity for all those different techniques: to get relaxed and reach silence in your mind...

but... I suppose that is only the first step?

Originally posted by spiritp0wer
The only way to ever believe in immortality of any type is to disbelieve in everything around you. Disbelieve what your eye's see, what your body feels, smells, touches, disbelieve what you think.

No, thats insane

By disbelieving in reality you are exposing yourself to the power's of the world beyond. Reality dictates that you have been born, you have grown, you have aged, you will die and cease to exist. But if you believe in a spirit, if you disbelieve in the lie that is your current existance you will be able to achieve something. What you achieve is fearlessness. You will be reckless because chaos is the only way to destroy you and you're surrounding. Destroy the reality, destroy the body, destroy the mind, reach death quicker and you'll be one step closer to immortality.

Sorry, but thats just nutz lol, but yes what you see as "chaos" is bad but not in the way you think,

you can't be insane and reach immortality

Harper think's he's physically immortal, maybe that mean's hes not afraid to die, because he believes in spirit. He also says that immortal's can be hurt. Which further proves my point that his view of physical immortality is just fearlessness itself. He is not afraid to die, not afraid of anything that will happen to him physically because he is immortal from the physical, he is the immortal spirit that can not be physically destroyed because to him the physical does not exist.

It's true I'm not afraid to die, but I've lived through things that would have killed others, and the pain is not anyless, more so in fact, at least if you die the pain stops, so I am a little afraid of the pain,

don't confuse immortality with indestructible,

physically immortality does not exist, harper is either insane or crazy. We all know deep down that only God is immortal. If we were god's wouldn't you think you'd have control over your life? The truth is you and I do not have control over our lives. We are mortals, for you to believe that you are immortal like god is bad karma in itself. Play your position, don't believe you are anything more than what you are. It would only be setting yourself for a grim awakening when you challenge God himself.

physically immortality does exist, (and you base your theory on what?, a lack of evidence?) and no I'm not insane,

and to the rest of what you wrote, I will simply say "I am a child of God" as are you all

Originally posted by untilted
and...

Originally posted by Harper_
There is not just one technique, but diffrent parts of the world tend to lean more towards ways related to their culture,

A way someone in say the US or the UK, will tend to be diffrent to someone in India or China

There are many many diffrent ways to reach this state,

as far as I know there is one similarity for all those different techniques: to get relaxed and reach silence in your mind...

but... I suppose that is only the first step?

YES, Very very usefull, yes you would need this

what about energy?...

do you have to be on some kind of diet (like - vegetarian) to become immortal?

Originally posted by Harper_
Mephorium, you don't know your (expletive) from your elbow,

I cannot say that I know how to respond to this. I was actually hoping to read about your journey, or at least understand your destination; now I am to think you have come here to seek attention, and that is a shame. It seems I have struck a nerve. Is it because I do not simply believe without evidence in your claim?

Almost every individual that comes here to make an extraordinary claim spends more time attacking the opponents of that claim than providing proof of it.

As for the quote above, I suggest you read these guidelines. They won't make you physically immortal, but they will make a better member out of you

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Originally posted by Harper_

Originally posted by BeyondPlanetEarth

How did does one achieve immortality?

Slowly through understanding

More cryptic pseudo-spiritualist BS.

Mephorium, you don't know your arss from your elbow,

this is the second time in this thread you've attacked someone who gave you the benefit of the doubt. Starting to see a pattern.

Its your ego that is fragile here, I laugh because I thought it an honest mistake (on your part), and as for your way of thinking, yes I do, you are for the most part still very physical in your way of thinking,
you will never understand anything I say here if you continue to think in such crude terms,

Firstly, you threaten to move yourself to a different board if we dont take what you say unquestioningly. Secondly you claim that this persons (and by proxy all of us here in this thread) ego is fragile. From my understanding of ego and karmic balance, once these are achived, infinite PAITENTCE is achieved, especially when dealing with "lesser" thinkers. Your full of ego and full of it.

You have provided ZERO evidence to back your fantastic claims. You have expanded NOTHING in regards to the steps you take. In fact on the last page (page 6) is about the only useful information:

quote: Originally posted by untilted
and...

quote: Originally posted by Harper_
There is not just one technique, but diffrent parts of the world tend to lean more towards ways related to their culture,

A way someone in say the US or the UK, will tend to be diffrent to someone in India or China

There are many many diffrent ways to reach this state,


as far as I know there is one similarity for all those different techniques: to get relaxed and reach silence in your mind...

but... I suppose that is only the first step?



YES, Very very usefull, yes you would need this

And you didnt even give the information, you just confirmed it, meaning you've given nothing to this thread but a big claim and a lot of hot air.

We need a mod, this thread is bunk.

[edit on 25-5-2007 by InSpiteOf]

ok first Harper_ the reason i feel and stay with my body is because i choose to take it with me when i leave this plane. you do not know who or what i am(and you do not have too), but it would be imperative of you to not assume anything about me or others here on this board. for it will only stagnate what you seek.

and so you know i "do not" what immorality. it is the very reason we die, that enables us to achieve the impossible. by accepting your immortality i would there by deny myself of achieve the "great".

the reason i came here was for 1-curiosity and 2-to see what kind of minds would seek your guidance.

you have proven yourself unworthy of my interests(but my interests are very specific), but you may interest others.




for those that wish to know how all this(immortality) is possible. its is a correction of resource distribution within the systems of the entity. naturally speaking we a humans grow, the reason we stop growing is due to our energy being consumed in different and unnecessary ways. the point being we die because we fail to replenish our bodies.

when/if you can make your system accept "pure ether" as its source, you will have obtained what is called immortality. the trick in doing this is fasting your self off of what your body has evolved into accepting as its source. there are many ways of achieving this, the most usefully and most effective is- removing your mind from the equation, allowing your "desires" to starve and fade into oblivion.

however as i stated before you will be sacrificing something far more precious should you walk this path. i myself am a martial artist i would never sacrifice my soul for a few more moments to circle the drain of life. and many jutsu's conflict with the nature of immortalism, imo this is the greatest reason why i will always reject make-shift immortality.

but ultimately you all have options, and you should never allow any one to dictate those options.

I've been reading through this topic whenever I've come to the paranormal forum. I haven't read every post but I'd like to ask, what has Harper_ done to deserve the abuse he's getting, if you disagree with the things he is saying, you could at least disagree politely.

I have one question but I'm not sure exactly what you mean by physical immortality (like if you never age physically, or if you can't get hurt. Sorry if you said and I didn't pick it up.)

Guys i have read this thread and honestly i can say that harper is a peace of crap. He is playing everyone and we are all going along thinking it is real. Believe me it is the kid from the " my uncle gave me cancer because i found out he was involved i the fbi and aliens and here is my story thread", this guy is fake and is playing everyone, just look at the way he talks and refuses to answer questions...

you cant be immortal, at least not in the sense of living forever with your human body. You can learn to control yourself with meditation to control breathing and such, maybe even with science prolong your life or with a healthy diet and exercise. This guy is all Bull, he is just some annoying little computer kid that has nothing better to do so he comes on ATS and starts threads hoping to realize he has a uneventful life.

Originally posted by ATSGUY
Guys i have read this thread and honestly i can say that harper is a peace of crap. He is playing everyone and we are all going along thinking it is real. Believe me it is the kid from the " my uncle gave me cancer because i found out he was involved i the fbi and aliens and here is my story thread", this guy is fake and is playing everyone, just look at the way he talks and refuses to answer questions...

you cant be immortal, at least not in the sense of living forever with your human body. You can learn to control yourself with meditation to control breathing and such, maybe even with science prolong your life or with a healthy diet and exercise. This guy is all Bull, he is just some annoying little computer kid that has nothing better to do so he comes on ATS and starts threads hoping to realize he has a uneventful life.

I'm not sure, but I can't remember reading that he's going to force everyone to do it. It's for you to decide if you want to believe him or not, but you don't have to insult him.

Originally posted by Kappo
I'm not sure, but I can't remember reading that he's going to force everyone to do it. It's for you to decide if you want to believe him or not, but you don't have to insult him.

Hes been rather condecending to us. talking about we think on a lower level than he does. Claiming it is our ego that is causing us not to see what a wonderful gift he's trying to give us, and threatening to move his idea's to another board.

Harper has answered questions that go something like this

quote: Originally posted by untilted
Hi Harper!

I think that this 'state of immortality' you are talking about is achieved with a 'state of mind'...

am I close?...



Very close

(A question that only requires a yes or no answer, one which can easily be picked at random to apply to his agenda)

while categorically ignoring or brushing aside questions like this :

quote: Originally posted by InSpiteOf
I think posting a number of questions and having you answer is better. it creates less waste on this board and i think the mods might say something to that effect.

Just answer them one by one if need be.

What was the first stage you went through to reach this immortality?

Where should people start?

What if you are terminal? Can you still aspire to this state?


Very good questions,

You can start by knowing this is real,

the rest I'll uncover as things progress, (soon)

He made a thread with an interesting concept, claimed he had seen proof of this, and infact is an immortal, then when asked to back it up, attacks or ignores those posing the tough questions.

Thats why he is being treated with hostility.

Edit: bolded his/her responses in the quotes for ease of understanding.

[edit on 25-5-2007 by InSpiteOf]

Perhaps, did you consider, that he might have had a good reason for not giving you blunt answers and not answering all of them at once?

Sorry I missed the top bit of your post, I'm just going to have a look back then edit this message.

Edit: Sorry, can you pin point a certain few posts as I've read a few which you may consider condescending, but I came up with a good reason for why he was acting like that. (I can't search myself I don't have much time, and your perspective will be different.)

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