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Physical Immortality

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posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 04:27 AM
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Yeah, it's real, but if my first reaction this is anything like yours mayl be, secptical will most likely be an understatement,

(Okay you may say prove it, and the only thing I can offer you is if you want to check me out, Remote View me prior to 1999, (if you want to find out why I'm doing this check out all the energy action around me over the course of the last seven years,)) I'm sure there must be some of you skilled in this ability

This is true, Physical Immortality is very real, and there are more Physical Immortal people around you than you could imagine, you pass them in the streets, see them working in libaries, shops, etc,
The goverment doesn't know they are there, but the greys do, and so does at least one certain remote viewer by the name of Courtney Brown,

There are some good Immortals doing good things, but not all of them are good, and the ones that are not tend to have more sway amongst these people, (they expliot trust, and are highly maniplative)


This is the last Chapter of this situation,

I'm here to tell you what I know on this subject, I will not expose the good people, but anything else is fair game,

Somethings are quite complex, like the things that led up to me taking this action,
Somethings can be quite simple, like the things involed in becoming Physical Immortal, (you would think that would be complex wouldn't you, lol)

The fact is some of you reading this could reach Physical Immortality easly in just a decade or so, while some of you couldn't (it heavly dictated by Karma, you have to get rid of all you old negative Karma first (and that could be many life times worth) and some of you may not be able to do that in just one life time, But many of you can.....

Basicly the more good you are the easier this can be,

I will also tell you what you can do once Immortal (you will develope in many diffrent ways, including Psychic abilities, yeah every Immortal is Psychicly active all the time, and to a very high level of development, all this is part of the standard package and all Immortals have it)

As this thread evolves I will let almost everything I know on this subject be covered,


Where Shall we begin?



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 05:00 AM
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do thses immortals aspire to a certain technique?
i know with taoist yoga one can finally reach immortal stage
and many other practices



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 09:28 AM
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Sounds like something worth some trouble... So, how is it achieved? What to start with...



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 09:34 AM
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May I direct you Dr. Aubrey DeGrey



Aubrey David Nicholas Jasper de Grey, Ph.D., (born 20 April 1963 in London, England) is a controversial biomedical gerontologist who lives in the city of Cambridge, UK. He is working to expedite the development of a cure for human aging, a medical goal he refers to as engineered negligible senescence. To this end, he has identified what he concludes are the seven areas of the aging process that need to be addressed medically before this can be done. He has been interviewed in recent years in many news sources, including CBS 60 Minutes, BBC, the New York Times, Fortune Magazine, and Popular Science. His main activities at present are as chairman and chief science officer of the Methuselah Foundation and editor-in-chief of the academic journal Rejuvenation Research.

Aubrey de Grey was educated at Sussex House School, Harrow School and Trinity Hall, Cambridge. Prior to his work in cellular and molecular biology, he studied computer science. In 1985 he received a B.A. in Computer Science from the University of Cambridge and joined Sinclair Research Ltd as an AI/software engineer; in 1986 he co-founded Man-Made Minions Ltd to pursue the development of an automated formal program verifier. Although de Grey has never held a teaching position at Cambridge, until 2006 he was in charge of software development at the Genetics Department for the FlyBase genetic database.



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 12:53 PM
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I don't believe in physical immortality. Immortality means living forever. Physical immortality means that your body will live forever.

I've had 1 particular experience where I know I should be dead(it occured when I was 2 years of age), but I'm not. I don't think I'm immortal though. I've had very strange things happen to me since.

My father believes what you believe, but with slight difference. He thinks that reinacarnation stops after we have become perfect. Once we have become perfect, we stop dying(meaning we do not reincarnate - we go into the spirit world). I do not know if I believe this because I think very thoroughly...too thoroughly; meaning, he could be very right...or very wrong. No one knows.

Thinking about it, do you actually mean that physical immortality is simply reincarnation...but with memory of what has happened before? Or do you mean...hit-by-a-truck-at-120mph-and-not-one-severe-scratch?



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Dhaerma
do thses immortals aspire to a certain technique?
i know with taoist yoga one can finally reach immortal stage
and many other practices


There is not just one technique, but diffrent parts of the world tend to lean more towards ways related to their culture,

A way someone in say the US or the UK, will tend to be diffrent to someone in India or China

There are many many diffrent ways to reach this state,



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by ChrisDeemian
Sounds like something worth some trouble... So, how is it achieved? What to start with...


Just understanding that it is real, and doable is a good start,



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:03 AM
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then help us out give us the techniques needed for this otherwise its just saying i can do this and leaving it . show the people how to do this



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:08 AM
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Prove it.
Give me one little bit of evidence that can substantiate your very strong declaration.
Links?
Photos of the "immortal" person years apart.
Anything??
Without any proof this thread will stink of BS.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
May I direct you Dr. Aubrey DeGrey



Aubrey David Nicholas Jasper de Grey, Ph.D., (born 20 April 1963 in London, England) is a controversial biomedical gerontologist who lives in the city of Cambridge, UK. He is working to expedite the development of a cure for human aging, a medical goal he refers to as engineered negligible senescence. To this end, he has identified what he concludes are the seven areas of the aging process that need to be addressed medically before this can be done. He has been interviewed in recent years in many news sources, including CBS 60 Minutes, BBC, the New York Times, Fortune Magazine, and Popular Science. His main activities at present are as chairman and chief science officer of the Methuselah Foundation and editor-in-chief of the academic journal Rejuvenation Research.

Aubrey de Grey was educated at Sussex House School, Harrow School and Trinity Hall, Cambridge. Prior to his work in cellular and molecular biology, he studied computer science. In 1985 he received a B.A. in Computer Science from the University of Cambridge and joined Sinclair Research Ltd as an AI/software engineer; in 1986 he co-founded Man-Made Minions Ltd to pursue the development of an automated formal program verifier. Although de Grey has never held a teaching position at Cambridge, until 2006 he was in charge of software development at the Genetics Department for the FlyBase genetic database.


I don't know anything about that guy, but nothing listed there has anything to do with Physical Immortality,

it's not has hard as most people would think it is,
and it's more about your energy than "physics",



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by sdrawkcab
I don't believe in physical immortality. Immortality means living forever. Physical immortality means that your body will live forever.


You understand you are already Immortality right?,
your soul is indestructable, you just don't tend to remember all your past lives, physical immortality just means you don't need to die of old age,
You wouldn't want to be trapped in physical form forever, (you answer this question yourself later)



Originally posted by sdrawkcab
I've had 1 particular experience where I know I should be dead(it occured when I was 2 years of age), but I'm not. I don't think I'm immortal though. I've had very strange things happen to me since.

My father believes what you believe, but with slight difference. He thinks that reinacarnation stops after we have become perfect. Once we have become perfect, we stop dying(meaning we do not reincarnate - we go into the spirit world). I do not know if I believe this because I think very thoroughly...too thoroughly; meaning, he could be very right...or very wrong. No one knows.


Your Farther is very right,

you don't need to come back if you reach a certain higher state
in fact you can't reach this "plane" if you are "perfect" (but only God is truly "perfect") once you have learnt what you needed, helpped people, and paid off all your negative karma you don't need to reincarnate here,
(but you can if you really wish, you just commit some wrong in that higher plane to get sent back)

And what you have written here is the answer to your first question, (you answered it yourself,
)

When it's times to leave you can,



Originally posted by sdrawkcab
Thinking about it, do you actually mean that physical immortality is simply reincarnation...but with memory of what has happened before? Or do you mean...hit-by-a-truck-at-120mph-and-not-one-severe-scratch?


Both, but that is a diffrent type of immortality, there are some immortals who are fully aware of every life they are born in too, remembering all of their other lives clearly, but they still age, and die from age etc, but I'm not talking about this type

I'm talking about real physical immortality,
if an immortal did get hit by a truck (and there are certain things that would stop this) you would still have a much higher chance of suriving this (True)

but if you mean physical immortality as in drop-a-nuke on you and you'd walk away, then no, they are not "totally" indestructable, they can bleed but have a much higher chance to get through things that would kill the average joe,



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by Dhaerma
then help us out give us the techniques needed for this otherwise its just saying i can do this and leaving it . show the people how to do this


Don't worry, this will unfold has we go along, you have to understand the basics first, or you wouldn't understand anything later,

(you don't expect to just jump in a jet plane and learn to fight right away do you?)

[edit on 24-4-2007 by Harper_]



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by Shadoww
Prove it.
Give me one little bit of evidence that can substantiate your very strong declaration.
Links?
Photos of the "immortal" person years apart.
Anything??
Without any proof this thread will stink of BS.


Dude if it was that easy to get proof everyone would know about this already, you wouldn't need me to tell you,

These people do not want to be know by people like you,

You show me the plans for the latest "top secret" fighter planes that nobody knows about,

I don't mind anyone being sceptical thats fine I understand (I was)

But don't make snap judgements on things you don't know,
Or for that fact, rude okay,

(and btw, even if I did give you photos, you would say it was fake wouldn't you?)



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 09:12 AM
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Harper_ you are describing a phenomenon similar to the movie Unbreakable correct?

A man/woman who can survive unbelievable feats and walk away without a scratch.

We are all immortal you are correct on some level or another. Some people don't believe in a soul, but regardless of their forgetfulness they still have one.

We are ONE with Spirit. We are all energy vibrating at different levels, into threshold levels our eyes can pick up. The reality is we are mainly empty space on a quantum level, but go down even farther to the planck scale (This is quantum physics, just an easier way to understand for some) we are all connected. This is the String Theory idea that everything stems from one point in the cosmos.

My girlfriend gave me the book The Universe in a Single Atom by the Dalai Lama, but have not started it yet. The above book's excerpt:

After forty years of scientific study with some of the greatest scientific minds, as well as a lifetime of meditative, spiritual, and philosophic study, the Dalai Lama presents a brilliant analysis of why all avenues of inquiry-- scientific as well as spiritual--must be pursued in order to arrive at a complete picture of the truth.


As the saying goes "The Truth Shall Set You Free!"

The path of Gnosis will probably grant you with immortality, although you may have to leave this body first (who wants to leave behind a massive body when you can fly around in a spark?
aka MerKaBah light body?).

I don't pretend to have all the answers fellas, but you can research immortality and will find similar responses. Remember we are all immortal, our souls have existed since before Time. We are masters of our worlds, don't forget that.

Your thoughts create reality, change it to however you please!


If I lost anyone, ask a question.
bs



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by biggie smalls
Harper_ you are describing a phenomenon similar to the movie Unbreakable correct?


No that would be an extreme, (if he had been immortal he would have never gotten on the train)


Originally posted by biggie smalls
A man/woman who can survive unbelievable feats and walk away without a scratch.


Very True, (but even non immortals can sometimes do that)
But immortals can get hurt,


Originally posted by biggie smalls
We are all immortal you are correct on some level or another. Some people don't believe in a soul, but regardless of their forgetfulness they still have one.


Again, True


Originally posted by biggie smalls
We are ONE with Spirit. We are all energy


Bingo!




Originally posted by biggie smalls
vibrating at different levels, into threshold levels our eyes can pick up. The reality is we are mainly empty space on a quantum level, but go down even farther to the planck scale (This is quantum physics, just an easier way to understand for some) we are all connected. This is the String Theory idea that everything stems from one point in the cosmos.

My girlfriend gave me the book The Universe in a Single Atom by the Dalai Lama, but have not started it yet. The above book's excerpt:

After forty years of scientific study with some of the greatest scientific minds, as well as a lifetime of meditative, spiritual, and philosophic study, the Dalai Lama presents a brilliant analysis of why all avenues of inquiry-- scientific as well as spiritual--must be pursued in order to arrive at a complete picture of the truth.




Originally posted by biggie smalls
As the saying goes "The Truth Shall Set You Free!"


One of my favourite saying,



Originally posted by biggie smalls
The path of Gnosis will probably grant you with immortality, although you may have to leave this body first (who wants to leave behind a massive body when you can fly around in a spark?
aka MerKaBah light body?).
You don't need to study Gnosis to have that lol



Originally posted by biggie smalls
I don't pretend to have all the answers fellas, but you can research immortality and will find similar responses. Remember we are all immortal, our souls have existed since before Time. We are masters of our worlds, don't forget that.


True


Originally posted by biggie smalls
Your thoughts create reality, change it to however you please!


Outstanding,



Originally posted by biggie smalls
If I lost anyone, ask a question.
bs


But remember this is more of an Art than a strict science, you don't need a PhD in anything to understand this,



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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immortals and no goverment,or agency,or cult has detected them?hard to believe....

[edit on 24-4-2007 by waterwalker]



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:13 AM
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quote]Originally posted by waterwalker
immortals and no goverment,or agency,or cult has detected them


No goverment or agency, No (they have alot of control)


but at least one secret society does


The thing is no goverment or agency would understand it for what it is even if they did notice something,



[edit on 24-4-2007 by Harper_]

[edit on 24-4-2007 by Harper_]



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:14 AM
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[edit on 24-4-2007 by Harper_]



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:16 AM
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erm where is the snap judgement???
is asking for proof a snap Judgement?
Is Calling something that has no proof BS rude?
It isnt to much to ask.
I wouildnt expect anyone to believe anything i said without me backing it up with proof.
We are meant to be Skeptical here on ATS and to demand proof.
You have proven Zip Nada..
Its you who should watch what they are posting.
Posting BS you have read without any proof tends to make people question or dismiss you out of hand.
Prove me wrong.
Until then as far as im concerned your thread is pure unadulterated BS.

All you know amounts to zilch doesnt it??



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Harper_
There are some good Immortals doing good things, but not all of them are good, and the ones that are not tend to have more sway amongst these people, (they expliot trust, and are highly maniplative)


Ok there are good ones and bad ones...


Originally posted by Harper_
The fact is some of you reading this could reach Physical Immortality easly in just a decade or so, while some of you couldn't (it heavly dictated by Karma, you have to get rid of all you old negative Karma first (and that could be many life times worth) and some of you may not be able to do that in just one life time, But many of you can.....

Basicly the more good you are the easier this can be,


Ok so you have to be good...

Where did the bad ones come from? After your immortal (paying off all your old negative karma), can you then go back to old immoral ways?



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