Physical Immortality

Originally posted by Glyph_D
ive been waiting for this thread to get some life back in it.

Harper_ could you answer my questions from pg3???

you spoke of leaving earth in 4-5 months. are you transendening the material plane? or going to a different sector within our material world?

you say your 30ish, would you be the age of 32? i happen to know that the age of 32 is very a significant age in spiritual release.

lol, didn't say I was leaving Earth in in 4-5 months, no, I may be leaving these boards in in 4-5 months, (at best)

I'm more than 32,

Originally posted by harvosky
Hey harper...well I know there's been people here attacking you and all, but that's the point of ats.. So all I want you to do is Please describe to us how we begin the process. Teach us how to start and on our own, through self discovery we will be able to reach this state.

It's a suggestion because the question answer isn't really getting us nowhere. With due respect of course. I have stories to tell about what i've gone through in the past year. So please share this information with us.

Thank you.

I am trying here, but you can't judge unless you know, I am trying to get you to stand on your own two feet,

So why ATS? How did you come to decide to share this info with the members of this particular board? Are there other boards where you're participating and sharing this info, or just here?

And why now?

[Edit to add]

How many of you understand Creative Visualization?
how it's done, how it works etc

There's a link in my signature to an on-line article called "As a man Thinketh". Any resonance for you there?

[edit on 5/24/2007 by yeahright]

Originally posted by yeahright
So why ATS? How did you come to decide to share this info with the members of this particular board? Are there other boards where you're participating and sharing this info, or just here?

And why now?

[Edit to add]

How many of you understand Creative Visualization?
how it's done, how it works etc

There's a link in my signature to an on-line article called "As a man Thinketh". Any resonance for you there?

[edit on 5/24/2007 by yeahright]

Why ATS?, because of the people who vist, and as of now this is the only board, , but later may be others boards,

Why now?, because certain things that have been happening to me over the last seven years are now coming to ahead

btw I'll check out your link

Heres another question.

What do you think age is?,

Why do people with hard lives get older faster?

Originally posted by Harper_


The way I think is alot diffirent to the way you all think,

for you to understand what I'm saying here you are going to have to become more subtle, and there are certain thing that would not make any sense to you (and would do more harm to your understanding than good) if I just blurted them out without you understanding some basic ground work,

Theres an old Chinese proverb "A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single footstep"

By subtle do you mean cryptic. So far the questions ive presented to you have been half answered or brushed off (with a response of ill answer soon.) All this talk about karmic balance mixed with your ego is controdictory (Example of your ego are bolded in the quote)

I can think of another proverb : say what you mean and mean what you say.

either start giving some answers or people are going to get pissed off.

Harper....With due respect....There is an ancient saying (I'm not making this up)
that I believe was translated from Hindu or Chinese. It literally means:

"If you cannot tell me about your beliefs or philosophy in 2 minutes, or write about them in 5 lines,
then they are not worth hearing about."

Originally posted by InSpiteOf
either start giving some answers or people are going to get pissed off.

Quickest way to shorten your lifespan. Okay, maybe not the quickest, but definitely long-term effective.

Let's individually maintain our level of expectations, here. We're having a conversation. Nothing more. Anyone seriously expect to receive the secret to physical immortality on this thread? If so, you probably deserve to get pissed off. Back away from the keyboard. Go outside and take a few deep breaths. Listen to the birds sing. Then come back and avoid this thread. Head over to Secret Societies and crack on the Masons or something.

We're having a free form exchange of ideas. A conversation. Expect nothing more and you won't be disappointed. And hey, if you happen to achieve immortality out of it, good for you. If that's what you truly want. Just be careful what you hope for.

Peace.

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

Originally posted by Harper_


The way I think is alot diffirent to the way you all think,

for you to understand what I'm saying here you are going to have to become more subtle, and there are certain thing that would not make any sense to you (and would do more harm to your understanding than good) if I just blurted them out without you understanding some basic ground work,

Theres an old Chinese proverb "A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single footstep"

By subtle do you mean cryptic. So far the questions ive presented to you have been half answered or brushed off (with a response of ill answer soon.) All this talk about karmic balance mixed with your ego is controdictory (Example of your ego are bolded in the quote)

I can think of another proverb : say what you mean and mean what you say.

either start giving some answers or people are going to get pissed off.

Not cryptic,
No ego, (if I had an ego, I wouldn't be sharing this infomation with you)

and as for your "proverb" I do, but it seems not to your pace or style,

Originally posted by lw2525
Harper....With due respect....There is an ancient saying (I'm not making this up)
that I believe was translated from Hindu or Chinese. It literally means:

"If you cannot tell me about your beliefs or philosophy in 2 minutes, or write about them in 5 lines,
then they are not worth hearing about."

I can tell you some of my beliefs, or even some of my philosophy in a lot less time than 2 minutes,

or would you rather I talked about Physical Immortality?

Originally posted by yeahright

We're having a free form exchange of ideas. A conversation. Expect nothing more and you won't be disappointed. And hey, if you happen to achieve immortality out of it, good for you. If that's what you truly want. Just be careful what you hope for.

Peace.

so far this "conversation" has been us asking questions (by this persons request) and getting half answers and brush offs. Is it really to much to ask that this person offer something valid to the thread they started other than "im on a higher level" or "you need to be more subtle"

How do you ask a specific question about this topic while being subtle?

Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by InSpiteOf
either start giving some answers or people are going to get pissed off.

Quickest way to shorten your lifespan. Okay, maybe not the quickest, but definitely long-term effective.

Let's individually maintain our level of expectations, here. We're having a conversation. Nothing more. Anyone seriously expect to receive the secret to physical immortality on this thread? If so, you probably deserve to get pissed off. Back away from the keyboard. Go outside and take a few deep breaths. Listen to the birds sing. Then come back and avoid this thread. Head over to Secret Societies and crack on the Masons or something.

We're having a free form exchange of ideas. A conversation. Expect nothing more and you won't be disappointed. And hey, if you happen to achieve immortality out of it, good for you. If that's what you truly want. Just be careful what you hope for.

Peace.

No, I didn't and don't waste my time with silly games such as these,

This is real,

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

How do you ask a specific question about this topic while being subtle?

I understand your point. I'm merely suggesting no one gets unduly upset about how the OP does or does not respond. We can control our own actions and reactions. We have absolutely no control over someone else's.

Think of it as a game. At this point, it's Harper's game. Only he knows the rules. The rest of us have to figure them out. We can either go flame happy and kill it off now, or let it play out. I'm curious. But I've always been more inclined to pick up a critter and study it than squash it flat.

[Edit to add]

Originally posted by Harper_
No, I didn't and don't waste my time with silly games such as these,

No you didn't what? Spend your time however you like. I can't waste it for you.

[edit on 5/24/2007 by yeahright]

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

Originally posted by yeahright

We're having a free form exchange of ideas. A conversation. Expect nothing more and you won't be disappointed. And hey, if you happen to achieve immortality out of it, good for you. If that's what you truly want. Just be careful what you hope for.

Peace.

so far this "conversation" has been us asking questions (by this persons request) and getting half answers and brush offs. Is it really to much to ask that this person offer something valid to the thread they started other than "im on a higher level" or "you need to be more subtle"

How do you ask a specific question about this topic while being subtle?

You don't need to ask in a subtle way, just try understanding in a subtle way,

you people think this is something exotic and complex, it's not,
you still think in a crude physical (blatant) way, its not

try answering a few questions,

Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

How do you ask a specific question about this topic while being subtle?

I understand your point. I'm merely suggesting no one gets unduly upset about how the OP does or does not respond. We can control our own actions and reactions. We have absolutely no control over someone else's.

Think of it as a game. At this point, it's Harper's game. Only he knows the rules. The rest of us have to figure them out. We can either go flame happy and kill it off now, or let it play out. I'm curious. But I've always been more inclined to pick up a critter and study it than squash it flat.

[Edit to add]

Originally posted by Harper_
No, I didn't and don't waste my time with silly games such as these,

No you didn't what? Spend your time however you like. I can't waste it for you.

[edit on 5/24/2007 by yeahright]

Thats fine, bye,
I'm not going to jump through your hoops, or move at your speed,
if you know more about this subject then you can tell me what to do, and how to do it,

I'm not playing your "games" you stamp you feet like an angry spoilt child because you don't get what you want right now,

if anybody else feels like this person please feel free not to post,
you complaining is not helpping this thread,

be critical, fine, but don't try attacking me because I don't do it your way,

Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by InSpiteOf

How do you ask a specific question about this topic while being subtle?

I understand your point. I'm merely suggesting no one gets unduly upset about how the OP does or does not respond. We can control our own actions and reactions. We have absolutely no control over someone else's.

Think of it as a game. At this point, it's Harper's game. Only he knows the rules. The rest of us have to figure them out. We can either go flame happy and kill it off now, or let it play out. I'm curious. But I've always been more inclined to pick up a critter and study it than squash it flat.

[Edit to add]

Originally posted by Harper_
No, I didn't and don't waste my time with silly games such as these,

No you didn't what? Spend your time however you like. I can't waste it for you.

[edit on 5/24/2007 by yeahright]

This is no game, and I'm starting to get tired of this, do you have a question or not?, do you want to answer a question or not?

other than complaining about the way I do things do you have anything to add?

QUOTE - "This is no game, and I'm starting to get tired of this, do you have a question or not?, do you want to answer a question or not?


other than complaining about the way I do things do you have anything to add?"



I noticed that some posters have asked you questions, but not received a reply?

You do however reply to the negative posts?

You seem to get hooked into confrontation with certain members?

So here is my question:

How did does one achieve immortality?

Originally posted by Harper_
other than complaining about the way I do things do you have anything to add?

Bubba, not ONCE did I complain about the way you do things. In fact, I may very well have been your biggest, if not only, ally on this thread. ]

But I greatly appreciate your fully and thoroughly disclosing your abilities of comprehension, albeit inadvertently, I'm sure.

And with thst I bid you good day, sir.

Originally posted by Harper_

You don't need to ask in a subtle way, just try understanding in a subtle way,

you people think this is something exotic and complex, it's not,
you still think in a crude physical (blatant) way, its not

try answering a few questions,

How do you understand a concept ("quite simple" in your own words) that has a difinitive output, in a subtle way. Your mixing oil and water here.

How about you go back a few pages to those questions you said you'd answer in time, and answer them.

Or how about you answer the question of what is the first step.

Originally posted by Harper_This is true, Physical Immortality is very real

I myself will not believe in physical immortality until I have discovered it or it is demonstrated before me, but I believe there is a level of physical invulnerability that can be reached with proper training. Whether or not you found this level of physical invulnerability, I cannot say.

Originally posted by Harper_...Remote View me prior to 1999...

I'm not sure that remote viewing has been proven irrefutably on ATS either

Originally posted by Harper_... and there are more Physical Immortal people around you than you could imagine...

Now this is starting to sound like Highlander. I hope you don't walk around with a sword screaming, "There can only be One!"

Originally posted by Harper_I'm here to tell you what I know on this subject...

I hope so, as you probably know extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Too may times have people come here making claims without offering much, if any, proof at all. And then they usually disappear when their claims collapse under pressure, although, you are being generous with your 4-5 month time-table.

Originally posted by Harper_ As this thread evolves I will let almost everything I know on this subject be covered...

I'll be here, watching with interest. I have a very open mind when it comes to human potential, so I hope you will demonstrate yours and will not let us down.

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