Forest on Mars !?!?

Originally posted by blue bird
What is this -highly reflective object - something diffuse in nature, emanating from it !?

I don't know what that object may be (maybe just a rock ), but what I know is that it may not even be highly reflective, it can be just white.

And this one I find interesting // same msss strip //:

That thing is surely interesting, and I don't have any good idea of what it may be.

Originally posted by blue bird
What is this -highly reflective object - something diffuse in nature, emanating from it !?




msss

What is emanating from this highly reflective object is a cylindrical hologram with mutiple humanoid projections at different degreed angles similar to a totum that is spiraling upward from the shinny base.

Ladies and gentleman you are witnessing what is called a Martonian City. Look closely and study the magnificent architecture in the foreground and background inbedded in this photo and discover beautiful humanoid statues or projections. This may take some time for you nonbelievers to see these things but if you will concentrate and open your mind you will see these things also.

Life exists on Mars as you will see in the future and on this thread many are the visual pioneers and explorers interpreting what they see on Mars. In order to see these anomolies use a high quality magnifying glass in a darkened room this will project this photo similar to 3-D into the retina of your eye. Rik Riley





[edit on 29-6-2007 by rikriley]

hey guys...kind of busy but wanted to swing in and share this image:




Frost on the ground in a Viking image.

There is more, bluebird, if you want to peruse them and download them. Many show "true color" images...but it isn't an official nasa site.

www.solarviews.com...

Here is a nice pic of the martian atmosphere from the same site:

Thanks Tex .... what a nice view of atmosphere for almost non-existing one!


And here is another one - this is what is inside Utopia Plantia crater -coral colony or remnants of it!?





...and inside:

msss



[edit on 30-6-2007 by blue bird]

More details from “coral“ crater floor...





* smaller crater/ hole / pit inside - possible water substance inside // flow-off canal is visible



* rim !? wall!?






** found another “ hearth“ shape inside crater floor

This is from detail full resolution view of ridges on crater floor - looks like entrances, and the smaller one has a visible hole in the middle of arch like opening:






msss

* interesting crater with square floor





msss

bigfatfurrytexan, thanks for the Viking photo. For those who do not know this panaroma of the Martonian surface was taken from the Viking 2 Lander from Utopia Plantia. Contrary to popular belief my contention has always been that this is a dusting of snow verses frost. In this photo there are anomolies in what is called the Rock Field. Rik Riley

bigfatfurrytexan, thanks for showing the atmosphere from the Viking Orbiter view on Mars. This photo is from the rough impact Argyre impact basin and this area clearly shows the rectangular shaped ruins of a once intelligent civilization. Rik Riley

[edit on 30-6-2007 by rikriley]

The atmosphere is no thin, wispy atmosphere. it is complex, multilayered.

This is that same pic with only the magenta plate:




And one with the cyan, magenta, and yellow:





note the variagation in the upper atmosphere.

Originally posted by blue bird
* interesting crater with square floor





msss

bluebird, this is definitely an interesting photo. Remember I can see in 3-D and at the top of the photo center if you will stretch the image vertically you will see the buildings of a Martonian city. Toward the top of the so called crater is a clear image of a face of a woman facing right with another face super imposed on her hair. On the square floor of the so called crater is an image of a hybrid humanoid facial image with slanted eyes inside the top right 90 degree angle. Rik Riley

bigfatfurrytexan, You are correct it is a multilayered atmosphere on Mars. Earth has a multilayered atmosphere. Hmmm Maybe there is much more oxygen and water on Mars then we have been told by NASA. LOL Rik Riley

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I found some super sized Valles Marineris png's and on the third set strips there is this thing:




You can find the full size images here:

ser.sese.asu.edu...

Why is it interesting?

I have posted a link to an interesting story about the Tunguska even, involving these dome shaped objects lying on the ground in the remote Siberian forest. They are suppose to be related to a mythological creature/object that spits out fire every now and then. The whole ground rumbles and fire flies around destroying villages and forests. The idea is very interesting, and anyone is interested just U2U me for some details. The research was quite good on the link.

I live near mexico. Know lots of mexican folks. many of my employees visit family over there and visit doctors over there quite frequently.

There is a story about these dome shaped objects in the Chihuahuan foothills that almost nearly match identically the ones from the Tunguska story.

Now, as i am perusing the mars images excerpted above today, i find a dome object lying in the middle of the of the most stark examples of destruction in our solar system. The contents of this valley litter the landscape of the entire planet.

Just wanted to provide context behind why i found the above image so interesting.

[edit on 30-6-2007 by bigfatfurrytexan]

About the “almost non-existing atmosphere “ I was of course ironical... I also posted this same Viking image in BW previously - for the same reason: clearly visible and compact atmosphere.


* Earth

Contact between southwest Melas Chasma wall and interior surfaces - unbelievable strip ... color / enhance is a must, because it is pretty dark,
But look at some cropped parts of strip - holes that look like entrance - remnants of some kind of artificial structures !?




* zooming




* another “hole“ / entrance
eliptical elevation in the middle of “ hole“....

msss



[edit on 30-6-2007 by blue bird]

Originally posted by blue bird
And here is another one - this is what is inside Utopia Plantia crater -coral colony or remnants of it!?

That was a good find.

That sure looks like an organic growth of some kind, even the fact that it has an area where there aren't any of those features.

I thought that it reminded me of a recent photo from HiRISE, so I went looking for it and I found it, it's this one, that also has some strange features, like this:

That page is titled "Indications of Ground Ice in Arcadia Planitia", but I find it stange to have such ice effects at such latitudes (38.1N in the HiRISE photo and 40.29N in the one you found).

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I found some super sized Valles Marineris png's and on the third set strips there is this thing:

You can find the full size images here:

ser.sese.asu.edu...

I think those images are from a infrared camera, so what we see may not be the exact shape of the objects, the white areas are hotter areas while the darker are the cooler areas.

Originally posted by blue bird
Contact between southwest Melas Chasma wall and interior surfaces - unbelievable strip ... color / enhance is a must, because it is pretty dark,
But look at some cropped parts of strip - holes that look like entrance - remnants of some kind of artificial structures !?

Those things don't look like holes to me, and the original IMG file it's not dark.

I downloaded the IMG file (not map-projected) and saved it as a GIF using NASAView, and after that I loaded the image on Photoshop and used the Auto-levels adjustment only on the parts in which I was interested (that makes better results because Photoshop will not use pixels outside the area of interest to calculate the best levels), and this was the result.

Originally posted by blue bird
* interesting crater with square floor





msss

Great find blue bird.

Interesting.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
I found some super sized Valles Marineris png's and on the third set strips there is this thing:

Why is it interesting?

I have posted a link to an interesting story about the Tunguska even, involving these dome shaped objects lying on the ground in the remote Siberian forest................

Tex, could you please post larger image!

Relating Tunguska story - do you mean: Academic Valery Uvarov and 'Installation' - which is 'keeping Earth in stabile orbit' - because if Earth is to move, the whole solar system would become unstable. It is truly fantastic story!

Originally posted by ArMaP
What's wrong with mundane explanations? They may be dull but if they really explain something why should we disregard them?

We should not disregard them but we should not attempt to make unreasonable assumptions and employ illogical means to arrive at mundane conclusions that will upset no paradigms.

That is the problem, it does not look like a tree, to me.

Fine...

Is it that hard to believe to I may see things in a different way?

After due consideration yes, i do find it hard to believe that you can not recognize a tree for a tree.

And I did not meant to say that they look like ponds, my idea was that they also look like the spreading of liquid from a central area with higher liquid concentration to the outer area through capilarity.

But it looks far more like trees than it does strange pools of spreading liquid employing capillary movement...

No, but my idea is not to defend convention or any other thing, my idea is to try to show to other people that there may be other possible explanations.

Such heroism... Why insult the mostly educated participants here by suggesting that they are not and have never been aware of the more mundane explanations? Why such strange assumptions?

If those explanations are the same or if they follow the conventional explanation that is (usualy) just a coincidence.

I don't believe in coincidences and don't believe those who do.

I have already answer that question from another member, maybe on another thread.I don't like to see people spending their time and efforts on something that may be completely wrong, that is why I try to show to other people that maybe there is another explanation.

I don't like to see people taken in by official lies and establishment misdirection and that is why i do my best to present views that do not require the picking and choosing of unrepresentative data that forms the core of many major scientific fields. I am the one trying to show people alternative views and i do not appreciate the fact that you have the audacity to claim that you are in fact the one presenting novel views. All i have ever seen you do in these forums is defend conventional views and for that i do not and never will have any respect.

My idea is not to force any explanation on anyone.

But apparently to keep repeating the same old conventional ideas or employ not so conventional logic to defend it.

My way of doing it might not be the best, but it's the only way I know.

That much i can agree with.

The main reason is that they do not look like a 3D object, they look flat.

How can something with a shadow be 'flat' and why do we expect it to look '3d' from such altitudes with such bad camera's?

Some things may look like shadows and not be shadows at all.
These may look like shadows here
But they do not look like shadows when seen closer.

Thanks for basing your 'explanation' on the foundation that i must be ignorant of something not to 'understand' your most conventional ideas...

Once more, it does not look like a tree to me, that is why I don't admitt that it looks like a tree. I can see similarities but I don't think they are enough to consider those things trees.

Similarities it is then and given a few months/years you might even admit that it looks a great deal like trees but can't be because NASA says so.

I have no intention to make anyone not consider the possibility of those things being trees, I just want to show that to some people (to me, as I do not speak for anybody else, but surely I am not the only person in the world with this opinion) that explanation is not the most obvious or even the most likely to be the true explanation.

It's 'likeliness' is entirely based on what sets of data you employ and if you happen to pick the official NASA one then yes, those are very unlikely to be trees. Why anyone would still choose to use the official NASA data and assumptions is beyond me but i suppose some of us only changes their minds when the science community tells them to.

I think I already answered it.

They just, somehow, do not look like trees even if they do somehow share some similarities?

OK, if we consider that NASA changes all the information that goes against what they defend, why should they allow those photos to appear?

Because NASA does have some accounting to do the public at large and simply hiding ALL the information they can no longer get away with so what they do is hide as much as they can as best as they can normally meaning in plain sight by means of editing.

Wouldn't be easier for them to just not publish the photos?

Sure it would but the illusion of a free flow of information would then be entirely shattered. President selection Bush did admit that being a dictator would be easier but as he well knows the American public are still quite unlikely to tolerate that.

Once they have the photos published, the only thing I have to use as reference for the photos is their information.

But there is no reason not to apply common sense and thus discern the true sun angle by looking at the shadows cast. We KNOW they tamper with these photo's and sometimes even go as far to invert the photo's by 'accident' while posting it in the wrong orientation or simply flipping the left side to the right; one presumes they believe these can later be explained as simply 'errors'.

Because I wasn't there and because my paranoia does not affect me that way.

Well this is long past paranoia ( which is what i may have had to be to go search for the data that clearly supports my claims against NASA) and entirely in the realm of evidence you can check for yourself.

www.marsnews.com...

www.marsnews.com...

www.marsnews.com...

There are far more links related to the true colour of Martian skies and the like but i think i have posted such before.

Those links shows that NASA will destroy hi res shots to hide detail but i can present more specific information showing that they will actively air-brush out detail in a given photo or data strip.

Stellar