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Forest on Mars !?!?

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posted on May, 4 2007 @ 03:14 PM
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* or this 'craters' or some kind of 'poligons'!?




* or this 'craters' or 'canals' in site with 'glass tubes'




posted on May, 4 2007 @ 06:28 PM
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I think we must return back to thread ( it would be great if zorgon or someone else open a thread about this anomalies- specialy regarding “tower“ structures - as we see “them“ in many different places - so folks will not miss this fascinating subjects).







Sleep N. H., and Zahnle K. "Refuge from Asteroid Impacts on Early Mars and the Early Earth" - have a theory called Ballistic Panspermia .

Basically, their idea was that Mars was long before (4.5 mil. years ago) was some what safer from “violent borbardment from Sun“:


Whereas the Earth was probably hit repeatedly by objects up to 500 km across which would have vaporized the oceans and created a deadly steam atmosphere (see Earth, early conditions), fewer giant impacts would have taken place on Mars (because it is a smaller target) and the absence of large amounts of surface water would have saved the planet from being as severely steam-sterilized. Any Martian thermophiles living just a few hundred meters below the surface, it has been suggested, would have been able to survive the trauma of collision with a 500-km-wide object. Furthermore, because of Mars' relatively cool interior and low gravity (allowing cracks, in which microbes could reside, to extend further down into the planet's interior) thermophilic subterranean organisms may have existed in a wide habitable zone extending to depths of several thousand meters. On Earth, by comparison, although thermophiles 1 km below the surface might have survived an ocean-boiling impact this would have left an uncomfortably narrow habitable zone – much below 1 km and microbes would probably be cooked by the planet's hot interior.8, 9


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Look all this water talk now, clouds, even snow....And I also suspect , that there are no just microorganisms...or was not just them in the past.

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posted on May, 4 2007 @ 08:42 PM
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The region is Valles Mariners// Chandor Chasma, and thus are the highest resolution images EVER taken by MRO - showing small features up to 3 feet (1m).

You see thus white bleached ( mineral deposits) ridges - theory goes:

'These fluids may have produced conditions to support possible habitats for microbial life.'



The most likely origin for these features is that minerals that were dissolved in WATER came out of solution and became part of the rock material lining the fractures
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. The alteration along fractures, concentrated by the underground fluids, marks locations where we can expect to find key information about chemical and perhaps biologic processes in a SUBSURFACE environment that may HAVE BEEN HABITABLE!!! "







* large image must see ( finally the real deal...only if goes further to hot places)





....finally the real deal...only if goes further to hot places

source - NASA



posted on May, 4 2007 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by blue bird

Zorgon - can you tell something about “soul catcher“?


Well that would be best if you look up the threads and blog here at ATS by "sleeper" with John Lear participating there. I myself do not know anything about that and have not had time to track where the idea came from... and that thread is over 100 pages long...


Anyway as to posting more Mars threads, I suppose I could start a new one, but there are so many Mars threads now the viewers are scattered, With the moon thread we talk about all anomalies in one thread LOL easier to keep track of.

But we go back to "The Waters of Life" in this thread



posted on May, 4 2007 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by blue bird
Mars is specially mysterious when it come to 'craters' - there are so many 'minicraters'...so many of them are unbelievably flat and perfectly rounded...some looks like 'polygons'...some are especially surrounded by veil of secret - like 'Crater with Dome'!?


Yup I had the "golfball" quite some time ago, and Enterprize really likes to push the triangular crater Ukert on the moon, but THESE are my favorite..

Eve's Apple (complete with leaves...)



From Mars with Love.... ( I have 12 Hart Craters so far...)



Martian Valentine




posted on May, 5 2007 @ 05:51 AM
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Zorgon you dawg. I shoulda known you were up to sumpin' collectin' heart craters...


Blue Bird, I understand I have a tendency to divert and sometimes crash threads with my jumping around from one topic to another. Our geek squad leader John Lear gently pointed this out when it was not so obvious to me, and it caused me to certainly stop and think twice about my style.

Its my brain, it doesn't laze like yours, but it takes in everything at once then parses out the good bits. I just want you to know it isn't a subjective or otherwise personal agenda to undermine your gallant work here.

With that said, on the subject of the soul catcher, I have been contemplating the matter. As my mind expanded out into the solar system searching for clues to the towers it brought back another insight.

We have a great analogy right here on Earth. They are called light houses! So how do towers equate to light houses equate to soul catchers? I can complete the equation in four words. Wait for it...

remote viewing navigation system

But I digress as this came from "out there". It raises more questions than it answers. Still though, isn't it fun? Let's share the movie rights



posted on May, 5 2007 @ 06:22 AM
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O boy am i at least puzzled by J. Skipper findings...and also I am looking very, very thoroughly through original MOC strip images of map projection of South Polar region!


*Mars




* Earth




original strip MSSS

source: Mars Anomaly Research


I am expecting MOS to take the same great resolution images of this highly “mysterious“ region up close - as in a imaging “bleached“ rocks....and what are they waiting!?


* nicely colored hart crater...amassing to look at this shape!



posted on May, 5 2007 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by Matyas

remote viewing navigation system...

...Still though, isn't it fun? Let's share the movie rights


Indeed.

It makes me wonder. I now have to correct my thinking to account for imperfect technology. Technology using science alone, uncombined with other facets of energy and motivation. Remote viewing....that, in itself, is an interesting subject.

Does anyone here know such a person? If so...that would make for a good thread.


Blue Bird, i know that you are aware of the information....but that really, really looks like electrical sculpting on the Valles Marineris pictures above. I suppose it is possible that pulverized rock powder could form a muddy water in the newfound scar after the cataclysmic event, thus providing a cement like substance behind as the water slowly evaporated.

Do we see this action in other parts of the Martian Planet? I see quite a bit of water erosion, modest amounts of wind erosion...could that be what is responsible for such things as this:





posted on May, 5 2007 @ 07:16 AM
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From long ago - seasonal changes were obviously puzzling astronomers.
Those “greenish“ dark spots changing during late winter/beginning of spring!?

Interesting 19 century view through telescope 242 and 358 on 6? inch object-glass.

* WINTER




APPEARANCE OF MARS, 1852, FEBRUARY 3, 6 H. 50 M., Greenwich Mean Time. Power of Telescope, 242 and 358 on 6⅓ inch object-glass


*SPRING




APPEARANCE OF MARS, 1852, MARCH 23, 5 H. 45 M., Greenwich Mean Time. Power of Telescope, 358; 6⅓ inch object-glass.


* SUMMER




* and some observations and ideas:


There is another theory about Mars, certainly not so absurd as either of those just named, but scarcely supported by evidence at present—the idea, namely, advanced by a French astronomer, that the ruddy color of the lands and seas of Mars is due to red trees and a generally scarlet vegetation. Your poet Holmes refers to this in those lines of his, "Star-clouds and Wind-clouds" (to my mind among the most charming of his many charming poems):

"The snows that glittered on the disc of Mars
Have melted, and the planet's fiery orb
Rolls in the crimson summer of its year."
It is quite possible, of course, that such colors as are often seen in American woods in the autumn-time may prevail in the forests and vegetation of Mars during the fullness of the Martian summer. The fact that during this season the planet looks ruddier than usual, in some degree corresponds with this theory. But it is much better explained, to my mind, by the greater clearness of the Martian air in the summer-time. That would enable us to see the color of the soil better. If our earth were looked at from Venus during the winter-time, the snows covering large parts of her surface, and the clouds and mists common in the winter months, would hide the tints of the surface, whereas these would be very distinct in clear summer weather.



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posted on May, 5 2007 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


Do we see this action in other parts of the Martian Planet? I see quite a bit of water erosion, modest amounts of wind erosion...could that be what is responsible for such things as this:





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- Salt Desert / Iran

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This salt pan, located in Death Valley, California, is a natural depression where water accumulated, evaporated, and left behind salt deposits

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** although I myself have more theory of that image...latter



posted on May, 5 2007 @ 08:03 AM
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* Bannu Region:



* ridges..deep gullies.... rivers....canals.... small green glens between....salt range.....

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posted on May, 5 2007 @ 08:43 AM
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* Tajikistan ((ESA))




*Mars

source...Skipper



posted on May, 5 2007 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Eve's Apple (complete with leaves...)




This is “Canal“







posted on May, 5 2007 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by Matyas
remote viewing navigation system...



Now THAT is an interesting thought... It is a well known fact in astral projection that if you are not careful, your soul may get lost and not return, hence the fact that few even venture into space and as yet I have not seen ANY reports of someone who left the solar system. If anyone has seen such stories I would be interested. Remote viewing is essentially the same as astral projection in effect .

This is something worth pursuing... if there is any truth to aliens "guiding" us, a "lighthouse on the path that humans would first explore by that method of travel would seem a very good idea.

I wonder what sleeper thinks of that concept?



Does anyone here know such a person? If so...that would make for a good thread.


Sleeper and there already are several threads with him...

Ingo Swann and his book "Penetration" which is available in pdf version and he has a websight...

Pegasus also has a copy of the CIA remote viewing manual used to train psychics in Project Stargate (1969-1995)

John Lear...

Maybe we should get a volunteer remote viewing chapter of Pegasus so we can scope everyone else...


Speaking of remote viewing, perhaps when "others" are viewing US, they may manifest an apparition in the sky... This noctilucent cloud is staring right back at us...






[edit on 6-5-2007 by zorgon]



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 02:08 PM
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Green...green. and more green.... - images done by Keith Laney:


























source: Keith Laney net



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 04:05 PM
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blue bird

Do you know how Keith Laney makes those colour images?

I saw once a site from someone who used the photos taken with the ultraviolet filter because "they looked better". I hope Keith Laney uses a more scientific approach.

And what is the importance of green? When seen from space most green areas on Earth do not look as green as we see them.



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 04:28 PM
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At his independent website, Image Analyst, Keith Laney, shows alternative conclusions and
possible color corrections for THEMIS image data. Keith is also a well-respected image
processing volunteer at Ames Research Center. He is one of the most well-qualified independent
interpreters of THEMIS data in the world. But never have his independent color assessments
been allowed to be posted at the NASA websites to show differing expert opinion about color
schemes for THEMIS. Obviously, the work Keith has done is respectable and would go far to
contribute to the discussion about correct color calibrations.

Keith Laney has been providing good analysis for making the correct settings for THEMIS true
color:and IR interpretations, and for using different image enhancement software (ISIS) which is
able to interpret the data from THEMIS with far better results. These new strides in image
interpretation should be recognized and heralded in the NASA peer review process, and
collaboration should be celebrated at NASA with outstanding image processing talent as Keith
represents.



public response to NASA peer review bulletin



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 04:39 PM
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_ Amazon forest:











................ and on...and on......and on.....



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 05:18 PM
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More on colors of Mars:


'Investigation shows that there are several indications that the NASA is tampering with the colors, and changes them from an Earth-like environment into a red inhospitable environment. But it seems that the young scientists at Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) are not convenient with this.

At the press conference last saturday, the JPL-scientists showed the latest picture of the Martian landscape. It showed a salmon-coloured desert with a blue sky. It seems that they did it on purpose, since previous pictures were all extremely red.'



These images were shown on conference:





and this






.....and a graphic expert Keith Lane was there lol

.........maybe, sometimes NASA - stands for Not Always Straight Answer .....



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[edit on 6-5-2007 by blue bird]



posted on May, 6 2007 @ 05:50 PM
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More on color of Mars:


NASA and ESA:





Then in 2004, the European Space Agency took it’s first full color image of the Gusev crater. What made the ESA image so immediately interesting was the fact that the “dark mass” features seen streaking portions of the floor of the 90-mile-wide Crater in the NASA imaging (left). Can now be seen in true color by ESA revealed by Mars Express (right) to be various amazing shades of G R E E N ! ( big lett. by me)


'The “streaks,” then, would simply be more colonies of algae from the craters … spread by algae spores surviving for a time between the crater floors ….'[

'During 2004 observations from the ESA Mars Express spacecraft in orbit around Mars, methane was detected in its atmosphere. And even more recently, Methane has been detected on Mars by three independent groups of scientists. And this could be a sign of life - indicating methane-producing bacteria'



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