The Disclosure Project is looking for a Professional Publicist

Kroms

Your posts are practically dripping with contempt and rage and hate. Against Greer, me, tock, other Greer supporters....

Not only that, but your desire to "beat" me in some kind of "ATS popularity contest" is utterly transparent.

I told you, I'm nobody important! Just a random truth seeker on ATS who happens to support Greer. It's pointless to try to "beat" me in some kind of ATS pissing contest - and you never will anyway, because I know how to control my emotions, and evidently you don't.

You're only hurting yourself and your own reputation by getting yourself all worked up into a rage and spewing all your venom at Greer and me and tock and others like this......

Originally posted by tezzajw

Originally posted by millerman
There have already been MANY large-scale UFO sightings, whole waves of UFOs being seen over large cities by hundreds or thousands of people. (The "Battle of LA", the "Phoenix Lights", just to name a few).

Did these mass sightings 'freak' people out? No. So what does Greer have to worry about if he vectors in some UFOs for close-up mass sightings to occur?

Well as I said, he claims to have done this in the past, and he claims to be planning on doing it again with the full support of a G8 country.... what else can I say?

And in the book Greer claims that at least some of these mass sightings coincided with him and his team experimenting heavily with the CE-5 protocol.

Greer CLAIMS it. Can he PROVE it?

Of course not!

The CE-5 protocol is essentially a meditation/telepathic communication with the ETs. How do you prove something like that?

He claims to be doing the best he can for us, by lining up the full support of a G8 country so that we can experience a major open contact event. What else can I say?

But evidently THE ETs THEMSELVES have some sort of issue with actually setting down and getting out of their crafts!

Exactly how do you know this, or is this just your opinion on what the vectored UFO aliens might actually be thinking?

Well, look at the available evidence!

We have all these thousands of UFO sightings, sometimes whole WAVES of sightings........ where the UFOs are quite happy to put on a show and zip around in the sky, but they NEVER TOUCH DOWN.

So EVIDENTLY.... the ETs have some sort of issue with touching down and getting out of their crafts.

Follow the logic?

I can only speculate as to what their issue is - but I have a strong suspicion that they
a) have legitimate safety concerns, since NWO/MIC likes to SHOOT AT THEM AND DOWN THEIR CRAFTS, and
b) have some kind of "Prime Directive" type law which governs the circumstances under which they can make direct face-to-face contact with people in public.

If you don't have any factual basis for your speculation, then it is just speculation.

Correct, I am making an educated guess - since I don't speak for the ETs themselves, and I wouldn't be so pretentious as to claim to speak for them.............

Hence Greer having to line up this G8 country with "full support of their air force, navy etc" in order to line up this alleged, imminent, major open contact event......

Hence, Greer making something else up for his cult to believe.

We'll see, won't we?

Originally posted by millerman

You're only hurting yourself and your own reputation by getting yourself all worked up into a rage and spewing all your venom at Greer and me and tock and others like this......

Again - OFF TOPIC -

Your the one personalizing this, even without any reference to the topic at hand.
Rather then debate me - or even attempt to, you again recite me being a rageful venomous recluse intent on harming my reputation. I only resort to defend my actions after you make it personal. You seemingly love to do this, perhaps it is your only defense? I mean, you yourself even admit that you call people (me) names because that is the only way you can articulate the way you feel at that particular moment.
millerman
I'm not taking pleasure in calling you names; I'm just trying to be honest with you about how you are coming across.


So how about it - instead of consistently not answering questions pertaining to this thread and making it a personal vendetta - why not answer my ON TOPIC questions? Or is it too hard?

The topic of this thread is concerning the Disclosure Project, not each other.

Final warning... remain on topic and desist with the personal 'stuff' (please).

Originally posted by millerman

Hence Greer having to line up this G8 country with "full support of their air force, navy etc" in order to line up this alleged, imminent, major open contact event......

Hence, Greer making something else up for his cult to believe.

We'll see, won't we?

See, if Greer is right - I will be the first to say I was wrong about him. Greer seemingly started off his quest for disclosure without bringing his new age beliefs in front of the pubic eye - now, he seems a bit discredited.

IF France is the G-7 whoops sorry, G-8 country (lol) involved with Greer's disclosure - why in the heck would Greer need to hire a publicist? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. He would have the whole of that particular G-8 country's media in the palm of his hand - and the government involved would supply him with whatever media needs he wanted. His search for a media publicist just goes to show - perhaps he just wants to jump on France's wagon for a bit of a ride to make a few bucks.

Originally posted by kroms33

I mean, you yourself even admit that you call people (me) names because that is the only way you can articulate the way you feel at that particular moment.

No, I admitted that I called you names because I was concerned about how you present yourself, when you start acting like you have some kind of authority on here, like you speak for more people than just yourself.

Also, your seeming inability to control your emotions is quite worrying.

So how about it - instead of consistently not answering questions pertaining to this thread and making it a personal vendetta -

LOL!!!!!!

why not answer my ON TOPIC questions? Or is it too hard?

Such as? Do you have some new questions that we haven't already gone over and over and over in this and other threads?

Also - since when I am REQUIRED to answer anything? Like I am some sort of "team leader" in the debate or something?

I TOLD YOU - I am nobody important! You're the only one who's trying to be important, with UNOAPE, and your constant claims to speak for many more people than just yourself.....

masqua:

sorry, last post was posted before I saw your post.... I am actively trying to curtail "millerman vs. kroms II", both in this thread and in U2U.....

[edit on 2-4-2007 by millerman]

There will be NO MORE off topic posts in this thread.

BUMP.

There were some great discussions going in this thread..... let's not let the thread get ruined by silliness!

Originally posted by millerman
There were some great discussions going in this thread..... let's not let the thread get ruined by silliness!

Actually, dude - there were no great discussions going in this thread. It deserves to die. Most of the thread went off topic as soon as it turned into Greer bashing/worshipping.

The thread title should be "The Disclosure Project is looking for any Publicist".

Forget about finding someone professional to do the job, when the organisation is run by someone who can 'vector in UFOs', but won't. Well, not until you pay him $$$ for the privilege to experience the vectoring.

Originally posted by tezzajw

Forget about finding someone professional to do the job, when the organisation is run by someone who can 'vector in UFOs', but won't. Well, not until you pay him $$$ for the privilege to experience the vectoring.

Yes that is a common argument used against Greer.

On page 99 of "Hidden Truth", he talks about a meeting he had with some senior NWO/MIC people, and he was flat-out told "we control the media and all the satellites they use. If you make contact where it's a large event that gets televised, we WILL take control and keep it from getting out to the public." (paraphrasing)

Also, he says that people around him have a tendency to panic when UFOs just show up without him prepping them ahead of time for the experience.....

Originally posted by tezzajw

Actually, dude - there were no great discussions going in this thread. It deserves to die. Most of the thread went off topic as soon as it turned into Greer bashing/worshipping.

I agree - let it die.

If people want to look into a disclosure project that doesn't involve some kind of wacky New Age theological alien belief system - check this one out:
www.worldufodisclosure.org...

It is being discussed HERE

Whilst some of the researchers involved may be shady (Greer) - there is a HUGE list of researchers and scientists donating their efforts for TRUE Disclosure... Some of them are BIG names too (Stanton Friedman). So, let this thread die... Greer lost his chance. World UFO Disclosure doesn't have TDP web site under supporting sites, but under researchers they do mention Greer... Perhaps what happened is people go sick of waiting, and noticed Greer going off on a path all his own... anyhow - I would rather see this type of project going then Greer's one man dance in front of 450+ witnesses who are sitting on the sidelines watching him.

Oh, I COULD Do That, But...

Originally posted by millerman
On page 99 of "Hidden Truth", he talks about a meeting he had with some senior NWO/MIC people, and he was flat-out told "we control the media and all the satellites they use. If you make contact where it's a large event that gets televised, we WILL take control and keep it from getting out to the public." (paraphrasing)

So? Maybe they're bluffing. And even if they aren't, there would still be potentially thousands of witnesses.

That's worth a shot, isn't it?

If he were truly committed to disclosure AND had the ability to summon UFOs at will, the thing to do is put up or shut up.

Leastwise, that's how it looks from here.

It's interesting, the wordings of worldufodisclosure's mission statements and things are almost identical to TDP's.... they seem like almost an outgrowth or evolution of TDP, as opposed to something that's independent from TDP...

Which is just as well - no reason why the two organizations can't work together....

Originally posted by millerman

Which is just as well - no reason why the two organizations can't work together....

I don't see a reason why they couldn't work together either... one battle flag with all those organizations and researchers...
Good for them. I think the main goal of worldwide UFO disclosure is to go through the UN as a means to ask countries to disclose their info...

Originally posted by Majic

So? Maybe they're bluffing. And even if they aren't, there would still be potentially thousands of witnesses.

That's worth a shot, isn't it?

If he were truly committed to disclosure AND had the ability to summon UFOs at will, the thing to do is put up or shut up.

Leastwise, that's how it looks from here.

Well the problem is, supposing he gets say 10 of his people and they go to a big city in broad daylight and do their CE-5 and some UFOs do show up - how do they then prove that it was them that summoned the UFOs? When CE-5 is essentially just a guided telepathic meditation?

(And BTW, if you read "Hidden Truth".... he says the above already has happened, more than once)

Heck if I could find 10 people that want to experiment with CE-5 I'd go do it for sure, right out in public.... but, it's the same problem - how do you prove anything when the ETs won't actually touch down and get out of their crafts, they just zip around in the sky and signal back and forth with lights and sounds (ala Close Encounters of the Third Kind) and then leave again.....?

"Sorry, Those Aren't My UFOs"

Originally posted by millerman
Well the problem is, supposing he gets say 10 of his people and they go to a big city in broad daylight and do their CE-5 and some UFOs do show up - how do they then prove that it was them that summoned the UFOs? When CE-5 is essentially just a guided telepathic meditation?

Why would it matter who summoned them?

Is the goal disclosure or self-aggrandizement?

Originally posted by kroms33
If people want to look into a disclosure project that doesn't involve some kind of wacky New Age theological alien belief system - check this one out:
www.worldufodisclosure.org...

Thanks for the link Kroms.

I added my name to the list, it will be interesting to see how it developes.

Onward and upward !

Cheers!

Originally posted by Majic

Originally posted by millerman
Well the problem is, supposing he gets say 10 of his people and they go to a big city in broad daylight and do their CE-5 and some UFOs do show up - how do they then prove that it was them that summoned the UFOs? When CE-5 is essentially just a guided telepathic meditation?

Why would it matter who summoned them?

Is the goal disclosure or self-aggrandizement?

Well I thought the whole point was that people wanted PROOF that he can vector in UFOs?

Without the proof factor, it's just another mass UFO sighting - and there have already been thousands of those. Like the famous "Phoenix Lights" sighting and many others...

The real issue seems to be, nobody can get the ETs to actually get out of their crafts and talk to us.... (likely because they'd be making themselves way too vulnerable)

Originally posted by millerman
The real issue seems to be, nobody can get the ETs to actually get out of their crafts and talk to us.... (likely because they'd be making themselves way too vulnerable)

This contradicts other claims that Greer has made. He tell us he has been abducted by these 'aliens'. Therefore they have made direct contact with people and come out of their craft (unless you want to invent a Star Trek 'beam me up' device). I suggest you stop relying on the Hidden Truth for any credible information as it only contains the incredible.

From the paraphrases you have posted there is no doubt in my mind that the one and only truth within Greer's book is the price tag. And the price tag is the one and only reason for its publication.

I wonder if the new publicist will have to pay for the privilege of the position they take up or will it be salaried?