Stop Iran now

Its like some of you cant even REMEMBER the fact that Iraq turned out to be ILLEGIAL and MADE UP!

Can you even begin to understand that Iran is not Iraq?

Do you understand the the difference between one nation and another?

Does Iran have the right to hold the British prisoners? Under any circumstance?

Yes.

There are some factors which explain why Iran is holding those UK-Soldiers as prisoners.

There are some factors which explain why Iran is holding those UK-Soldiers as prisoners.

Just as there were reasons that they kidnapped and held Americans back in '79.

The sooner the west confronts Iran, the better off the west will be in the future.

Once again, don't mistake Iran for Iraq. The US should have stayed out of Iraq completely and focused it's military strategy towards Iran.

Yeah sure. As if it the west was doing REALLY well under recent developments in the US and Europe. Look at what the Elite is doing.

They are splitting rich from poor, destroying the medium-class, in a very obvious way.

Iran is only getting a voice? What would America do with a Iranian Vessel @ It's coast if they knew that the Iranians were financing Mexican Guerilla Attacks?

Wake up Buddy.

Who are we to believe?

Britain says they have the coordinates that prove the kidnapped marines and sailors where in Iraqi waters; Iran says they have the coordinates that prove that the kidnapped troops were in Iranian waters. This is the fog of war. Who to believe?

Well, the British government, as former British Parliament member and former Blair administration member, Michael Meecher, will tell you....the British government does not have a good track record at all of telling the truth. In fact, as he will tell you go look him up, they have a very good track record of FALSIFYING facts to prove their case. This goes back like hundreds of years by the way...

So who are we to believe? I wouldnt trust the British government to sell me a used car. Hell I wouldnt trust any Western government to tell me the right time. So I would have to believe Iran on this one.

People, dont forget, Israel did the exact same thing, literally, with Lebanon, and it led to war. The government, all of them Iran too probably, wants war, plain and simple, of course they do, it gives them more power in every way!


[edit on 29-3-2007 by LightWorker13]

I know I've mentioned it before (either on this thread or another) but I heard another "expert" explaining the boundary issue on Radio 4 this morning. He said that only the boundary along the Shatt al Arab river itself is agreed upon. As soon as the boundary between Iraqi and Iranian territory enters the sea there is no agreement whatsoever!

All we have is a guestimation, so it's neither here nor there where the troops were captured since the boundary has not even been agreed upon.

This does not excuse the actions of the Iranian government, but it makes the "Iraqi or Iranian side of the boundary" argument somewhat moot.

Originally posted by avro
they have no right to detain my fellow country men who happened to be carrying out a legal stop and search in Iraqi waters, the kind of patrol which goes on all the time, helping to bring about stability to the region.

Seriously, dude... Define the term 'legal' when you're using it in context with the Middle East.

Nothing that the USA or the coalition do is 'legal'. They do what they like to protect their oil resources, legal or not. They're not interested in stability, it suits them more to have controlled conflict.

The concept of International Law is a joke, when every country on the planet has different ideas about crime, punishment and natural justice.

Iran are flexing their biceps, making me pay more at the bowser and Britain are chest-beating for their sailors back. None of it in any way at all is 'legal'. They're all criminals for making me pay more for petrol.

It's the time to test allied relationsip between UK and US. We always say that A friend in need is a friend indeed. To set a deadline, so that Iran has time to release all RN marines, if not, bomb them till they do it, just like Yugo in 1998! Bomb them not only 78 days, should be 78 weeks, 78 months, yeas, even 78 decades. If someone cannot read my english I will invite people translate my Chinese to Englsih!

Originally posted by emile
It's the time to test allied relationsip between UK and US. We always say that A friend in need is a friend indeed. To set a deadline, so that Iran has time to release all RN marines, if not, bomb them till they do it, just like Yugo in 1998! Bomb them not only 78 days, should be 78 weeks, 78 months, yeas, even 78 decades. If someone cannot read my english I will invite people translate my Chinese to Englsih!

Hmmm. I thought many asian cultures are pretty much non-violent.
Oh wait, #.. you are chinese. So, i guess the chinese culture is a little bit different.

So.. how is Tibeth doing?
Are they still alive? Or is your genocide raid complete?
I would be very careful with the statements you post here.
As an Asian i guess you sure do understand the following saying:

What you give, comes around.

Your words are disgusting. If you have no idea what you are talking about, please refrain from writing at all.

ah.. don't mind emile..
well meaning..

Originally posted by hereandnow

Once again, don't mistake Iran for Iraq. The US should have stayed out of Iraq completely and focused it's military strategy towards Iran.

So lets fix that straight away!

Lets just mass exodus all those forces in Iraq right across the border from Iraq to Iran..
Voila!!
Not in Iraq, now in Iran..
And then maybe 5-10 years down the line those guys can be moved a little further east into Pakistan..

C'mon give it break you guys and take a breather..
Go home, have a bit of Gatorade and then think out straight..

Iran is only getting a voice? What would America do with a Iranian Vessel @ It's coast if they knew that the Iranians were financing Mexican Guerilla Attacks?

Hey buddy, let's get back to 1979 and talk about payback for the hostage taking . America still owes them a good punch in the nose for what they did.

Hey buddy, what would the America do if the Iranian government sponsored terrorist groups that have killed American citizens? What would America do if the Iranian government constantly called for the destruction of America, Israel, and the west?

im not the bigest know-all,i dont know the exact situation.
but nuclear rockets sounds radiation/bad
and iran sounds like===>terorists
and sounds like they have problems with usa(i heard usa started atacking ground and air)
and they have problems with all the countryes supporting usa
american stealth's are going on the airports here in bulgaria to take fuel or i dont know what...and then head to atack iran
and just to say i love skiping school but not for an nuclear attack although if they attack they will probably attack the cities near black sea its still sick...
usa and russia are dangeorus enoguh poseesing weapons of mass des. but atleast theyr big countries and have responsibility ...i think

Originally posted by Unisol
american stealth's are going on the airports here in bulgaria to take fuel or i dont know what...

Where do you see American "stealths"? BIG stealths like bombers or small stealths like mig/f-16?

Are you joking?

Originally posted by hereandnow

Iran is only getting a voice? What would America do with a Iranian Vessel @ It's coast if they knew that the Iranians were financing Mexican Guerilla Attacks?

Hey buddy, let's get back to 1979 and talk about payback for the hostage taking . America still owes them a good punch in the nose for what they did.

Hey buddy, what would the America do if the Iranian government sponsored terrorist groups that have killed American citizens? What would America do if the Iranian government constantly called for the destruction of America, Israel, and the west?

Apparently you fail to get my point:

The USA finances Kurdish Guerilla Attacks @ Iran.
How do you call that? Not terrorism? Is that humanitary support?

So it's somewhat understandable that they are reacting in such a way.

No we won't go back to 1979. Thats almost 30 years ago. Wtf are you talking about? Or do you prefer to go back like 50 years, where the USA and Iran agreed upon that Iran may have their Nuclear Stuff?

The Iran is certainly not paying mexicans or anyone for terrorist attacks.
You are somewhat out of line "buddy".

And also the islam isn't always as anti-semitic as you describe them. The last letter i've read from Iranian president sent to Bush didn't sound very war-mongering at all. It sounded more or less peaceful and reasonable.

I don't want to know what happened to someone which gets caught by the US at their coast. They will end up in Guantanamo and be water-boarded to death.

Who knows, maybe they'd even end up in some horrible MK-Ultra Mind-Control experiment, without anyone ever knowing about it.

The reason for islamic critics against the USA or Israel is the constant involvement and support of Terrorist-Cells.
So the USA is probably the major terrorist and liar anyway.

Stop twisting things. You can't just pretend that the USA wasn't doing their dirty games and it's OK.

Originally posted by hereandnow

Hey buddy, let's get back to 1979 and talk about payback for the hostage taking . America still owes them a good punch in the nose for what they did.

Well, in that case I guess Iran owes the UK and US a helluva punch on the nose for getting their prime minister executed and an awful lot of people tortured and killed by the SAVAK.



[edit on 29-3-2007 by DenyAllKnowledge]

[edit on 29-3-2007 by DenyAllKnowledge]

Originally posted by osram

Originally posted by emile
It's the time to test allied relationsip between UK and US. We always say that A friend in need is a friend indeed. To set a deadline, so that Iran has time to release all RN marines, if not, bomb them till they do it, just like Yugo in 1998! Bomb them not only 78 days, should be 78 weeks, 78 months, yeas, even 78 decades. If someone cannot read my english I will invite people translate my Chinese to Englsih!

Hmmm. I thought many asian cultures are pretty much non-violent.
Oh wait, #.. you are chinese. So, i guess the chinese culture is a little bit different.

So.. how is Tibeth doing?
Are they still alive? Or is your genocide raid complete?
I would be very careful with the statements you post here.
As an Asian i guess you sure do understand the following saying:

What you give, comes around.

Your words are disgusting. If you have no idea what you are talking about, please refrain from writing at all.

If you know me very well, you may call me dissident from Beijing :p

If I am the president of China, what's you called? Aha Tibeth, ok, they want independence? If they are sure of this, ok let them go. Taiwan, they really want this like Tibeth? ok just do what they want, only if they are happy. I will never agree anyone kill Irannian, If there is no any threat out of Tehran, BUT the situation now are totally different, they threat another race, a very small country which nothing to do with Iran. And Iran does want to develop nuke to destroy that small race, we called Israel! Ok the Nuke hasn't been tested so there is no need we need voilent, then they kidnap sailor who are factually not in Iranian water! So if they don't free them for all! BOMB THEM!!!!!!

Now I am waiting for your rebut

No we won't go back to 1979. Thats almost 30 years ago. Wtf are you talking about?

It's not worth my time debating with someone who knows nothing of history and prefers to make up their own view of history.

The Iranians are just doing what they do best. Kidnapping and holding hostages.

Iran is not only a country that sponsors terrorism. they actively practice it themselves, as all can see from the current kidnapping of British sailors.

I know it's tough for all of you America haters on this board to hear the truth, instead you'll just continue wallowing in, and wrapping yourselves up in your delusional fantasies.

Originally posted by hereandnow
instead you'll just continue wallowing in, and wrapping yourselves up in your delusional fantasies.

You pretty much described what is happening to your brain about believing that USA are the good guys.

Which is kinda ironic.