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Originally posted by secret titan
Great job everyone for debating both sides and it has been a pleasure.
dbates
Actually that's not completely true. The 4th dimension has a "time" as well. It's the dimension that they don't understand that easily observable in the 5th dimension. So time is nothing more than dimension n+1 where n is the dimension you are in.
Originally posted by blue bird
*or this magnificent animation by A. Hanson:
www.cs.indiana.edu...
Originally posted by knows_but_doesnt
This is a great thread. It's good to see so many "technical" arguments over what does and does not exist. However, and I know this may aggravate a few posters, you may possibly be missing the very "big" picture of everything that is and is not.
To put it as simply as possible, and I quote... "There is no spoon"
You can argue, bitch, moan, quote the Holy Grail or Einstein, but in reality there is only the moment. Nothing more, nothing less. You cannot "change" the future, you can only change the "now"
lol
The Alchemist understands and works with nature. The sceintist has no clue nature even exists.
Originally posted by b3rgY
As I said in Indigo tread time is EFFECT which can be stoped, acelerated of reversible.(not inluding military USAF details about STARGATE project)
You are all missing from equasion DENSITY TIME FLUX.
There is practical models which prove this using 6 toroidal calems.
I shall not repeat again.
Originally posted by blue bird
But is it right LastOut, to say that you see a problem in POINT - being 0 dimensional-------> and that same point is building block of all others dimensions?
Originally posted by b3rgY
As I said in Indigo tread time is EFFECT which can be stoped, acelerated of reversible.(not inluding military USAF details about STARGATE project)
You are all missing from equasion DENSITY TIME FLUX.
There is practical models which prove this using 6 toroidal calems.
I shall not repeat again.
Originally posted by reaganero
just do lsd and you'll know for a fact that time does not exist. break on thru to the other side!
originally posted by BlaznRob
Physicists typically make hypothesis based on mathmatics and experimental data. Philosophers stand purely on the strength of their personal convictions, and regardless of how strongly someone believes something, it doesn't make their belief true.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
I am bowing out of this conversation, thank you to all of the posters who engaged in such a lovely thought process with me, I enjoyed all of you.
In the end belief is every thing, whether philosophical, mathematical, or of "physicists". A hypothesis is a conviction as is a theory, and today that is seen every where with blind believers of a bubble universe, etc.
Belief is every thing, the choice is yours and ours
Your/our belief creates your/our perception of reality, illusion, and Existence
[edit on 22-3-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]