757 Plane Did Not Hit Pentagon - Hard Visible Proof!

Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by amfirst
I mean the evidence to prove that the gov did it is just as good as claiming the Chinese did it

No, the Chinese had nothing to gain.

Evidence from the Moussaoui trial indicates that the Chinese may have supplied the weapons used in the attacks.

Government Exhibit FO08301

www.rcfp.org...

[edit on 2-4-2007 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Government Exhibit FO08301

www.rcfp.org...

Absolutely remarkable! Tell me, did they find this laying next to Atta's passport?

The fact is a plane hit the pentagon. No one can hand carry all of the debris.

911myths.com...

Are you going to say all of those people in the pictures are in on it? *Chukle*

Originally posted by amfirst
The fact is a plane hit the pentagon. No one can hand carry all of the debris.

Are you going to say all of those people in the pictures are in on it? *Chukle*

No. But you are missing around 225,000 pounds more wreckage. Since the wings didn't enter the building the spars must be somewhere. Oh wait, yeah! They DISINTEGRATED!!! "Snicker"

yay finally some info about that

a plane hitting a wall like the pentagon is like a tin can hitting a wall
it goes squish, just like the WTC's

in any case, it was still probably thermite/RDX cutting explosives that did the job,
weird thing in any case is, how did nobody see a plane coming to the pentagon, and how come it wasnt' shot down, cos the pentagon is a no fly zone

i already know why, norad was ordered to stand down

Originally posted by amfirst
The fact is a plane hit the pentagon. No one can hand carry all of the debris.

911myths.com...

Are you going to say all of those people in the pictures are in on it? *Chukle*

So where are the FBI and NTSB reports that match the parts found to a 757 or even Flight 77 ?

Pentagon Lied. CNN news cast. Just another interesting piece of info.

Another Documentary analysis of the Pentagon Fires vs WTC fires. This video Doc is very well done and explains many things in laymen terms.

Google Video Link

[edit on 9-4-2007 by Realtruth]

Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Government Exhibit FO08301

www.rcfp.org...

Absolutely remarkable! Tell me, did they find this laying next to Atta's passport?

Who knows?

Apparently the black boxes didn't survive the crashes but a plastic box cutter from china did.

The soot marks on the knife was a nice touch guys.

Shouldn't the blade have been extended, just for added believability? DOH

You know like this. Perhaps the blade broke off in the crash?

All jetliners are equipped with flight data recorders (FDRs) and cockpit voice recorders (CVRs) contained in "black boxes" designed to survive the most severe crashes. To date, none of the contents of any of the black boxes have been released to the public, With the exception of a partial transcript of Flight 93's CVR, the contents of any of the black boxes remained unknown to the public until August of 2006, when the National Security Archive published long-hidden NTSB Reports including flight path and other studies of the commandeered flights. The studies include FDR data from Flight 77 and Flight 93. Authorities had previously claimed that all but the voice recorder on Flight 93 were either not recovered or too damaged to yield data. The black boxes of Flight 77 were allegedly found on September 14th.

911research.wtc7.net...

[edit on 9-4-2007 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by the-real-syn
yay finally some info about that

a plane hitting a wall like the pentagon is like a tin can hitting a wall
it goes squish, just like the WTC's

in any case, it was still probably thermite/RDX cutting explosives that did the job,
weird thing in any case is, how did nobody see a plane coming to the pentagon, and how come it wasnt' shot down, cos the pentagon is a no fly zone

i already know why, norad was ordered to stand down

So what you're saying is that a plane weighing 150-200,000 pounds, moving at between 350-500mph is going to hit the concrete wall and just bounce right off it huh?

As for the Pentagon being a no fly zone, I SERIOUSLY suggest you check a map. The final approach path for Reagan National is just about directly over the Pentagon. That's why they did the MASCAL exercises, to train for a plane on final approach into National crashing into the Pentagon.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
The final approach path for Reagan National is just about directly over the Pentagon. That's why they did the MASCAL exercises, to train for a plane on final approach into National crashing into the Pentagon.

Just curious Zaphod which side of the pentagon did MASCAL take into account, considering an errent approach to the airport?

Actually, it crashed in the center courtyard. They had a model of the building, and right in the center was the "plane crash".

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Actually, it crashed in the center courtyard. They had a model of the building, and right in the center was the "plane crash".

In the center huh.

Wouldn't it have crashed into one of the sides first, in order to get into the center?

Certainly theres some detailed info on the MASCAL exercise that details this.

Not if it came straight down it wouldn't. The runways at National are as follows heading wise:

010/190
150/330
040/220

So that would be mostly North/South, SE/NW, and NE/SW.

IIRC to get to National from the side of the Pentagon that was hit, you would have had to fly over the top of the building, and then make at least one sharp turn to line up with the runway. The river that goes past the Pentagon, on the opposite of the impact, is the approach path for National's runway.

Looking at the charts, runway 19 would be the one they'd use to land, and it's on the opposite side of the Pentagon, so it wouldn't have impacted the building on the same side as Flight 77 did in an accidental crash.

[edit on 4/10/2007 by Zaphod58]

There was no Plane crash!
theres no Proof, nothing no film, no pic nothing.
Like some one wrote in here recently a Russian air craft could have done this.
A Noth Corean Millertary jet, pact full of nuclear power plant makeing Bombs.
I THINK OUR MILITARY fired a missile in the pentagon and had old crash airplain parts put in the building BEFOR they fierd that missile. it was meant to kill the auditors that was looking for the 3.7 Billion dollars that RUMMY SAID was missing the day befor 9/11 Rumsfeld or what ever said we dont even have a single transaction where the money went.

NO AIRPLANE CRASH!!!!

www.the7thfire.com...

Originally posted by cashlink
There was no Plane crash!

While it is possible that a foriegn military jet could have fired a missile just before it impacted the pentagon (After all f-4 phantoms have been sold to all kinds of foriegn countries) it is unlikely that the object was a cruise missile by itself, simply becuase of the circular flight path that the object travelled before hitting the target.

Evidence points towards a small military jet which fired a missile just before kamakaziing into the pentagon.

[edit on 10-4-2007 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by In nothing we trust Apparently the black boxes didn't survive the crashes but a plastic box cutter from china did.

Do you mean this black box:



These photos come from This official government report.

Originally posted by johnlear This is not true. Yes, there was an explosion but it was not massive. The only reason that it continued so long was that the fire department was ordered to fight the fire with water, not foam as they wanted.

No Foam?

Would anyone like to explain what all the white stuff in this photograph is?



Yeah, yeah, I know, unverified and unsourced photograph...fake...planted.
Right.

Hey Darkblue, I have a question. That last photo of the foam you showed, where are all of the plane parts? I remember seeing photos that have hundreds of little yellow arrows showing the plane parts scattered all over the lawn. Wouldn't all of the plane parts be in the photo showing the foam as well?

nyarlathotep,

The foam appears to extend at least 100 ft from the building. I suspect there are quite a few pieces of debris under the foam. The main debris field is to the left with respect to the foam picture. Based on impact trajectory of the airplane, most of the debris would have ended up in that area (to the left)



This is all speculation and I expect to get lambasted over it. Fine.

More importatnt IMO, is the fact that conspiracy backers are too often allowed to make statements like "The firefighters were not allowed to use foam" which is patently false, and they are not called to account.