Bob Lazar and Element 115

If John wouldn't mind, and not to derail the thread which i'm loving !

but..

Could he elaborate on the 45 years we've been mining on the moon.

[edit on 28-6-2009 by hisshadow]

I don't have any great info. I did live in Las Vegas for awhile...
I have a good friend there, him and his wife were friends with Lazar, before he got his inside job"if he did?" They reasure me that he was definately a Las Vegas Phone CO. employee up until he moved on to whatever.......
Just as for my opinion, I gota follow my gut, I kinda believe him, after meeting and talking with knapp, and other reasons....

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he doesn't participate here anymore. Site ownership doesn't seem to want him here (based on the comments Crakeur made in another thread, as well as what i witnessed myself).

If you want to talk to John, follow the link in my signature.

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www.youtube.com...

Excellent video. If you watch Mr. Lazar during this interview his body language is clearly forthright and honest. At least he believes in what he is saying.

Anyone out there into reverse speech? Go to the link above, download and reverse this for us maybe?

The guy comes off (my own humble opinion) as a very intellegent, down to earth and honest person. Again watch the body language and eye contact. His eye contact shows him to be a introvert vs extrovert but by his eye contact, voice and body position he at least appears to be telling what he preceives as the truth.

A lot of people have bad mouth Bob Lazar but my own gut feeling says he's "on the level".

He also comes off as a very intellegent person.

I'm going off ATS now to watch the other videos of him. Very interesting stuff.

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A star for your avatar.

Dr. Who rules!!!!!!!!!!

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As stated before in my previous post on this thread, although I don't know Mr. Lazar, I feel in my gut he is a very nice, down to earth and truthful person.

If you speak to Mr. Lazar again tell him I believe him and would like to hear more of his "encounters". Thanks.

(Below parts 2-4) There are more.

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Originally posted by Malevolent_Aliens
Years after working on a craft he experienced many other things involving ET's that he has since shared with some of us but he has chosen not to disclose the rest of what he knows to the public as it could possibly get him in alot of trouble.

That's because when they issued him his new badge for Los Alamos last year it came with a speech, ending with "Now Bob, we won't be having any more trouble from you will we?"

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
If you speak to Mr. Lazar again tell him I believe him and would like to hear more of his "encounters". Thanks.

Won't happen but I do hope him and John get that 'Desert Blast' set up Seems there is a bit of powder that needs eliminating

[edit on 13-7-2009 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon
and there is a pound or two of stuff that needs 'disposal' It will be an awesome sight

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

He's going to destroy it!!!!????????????? =(

Part of me just died inside.


Edit: I'm assuming you're speaking of the left over 115 he has?

[edit on 11-8-2009 by giveusthetruth]

Heck NO.... I'm talking about the left over blasting powder and dynamite at the mine

Gotta use it up while the ATF permits is still valid

The 115 would take out Vegas Not sure the boys at Nellis would be down with that

I mean your ARE aware of Bob and John's rep with the "Desert Blasts'?





[edit on 11-8-2009 by zorgon]

Wow, I am curious about this Element 115.

Is it possible in a bigger solar system to naturally form this

Element 115?

Might this be the only possibility for it to be stable ?







[edit on 12-8-2009 by metricmaker]

Originally posted by metricmaker
Wow, I am curious about this Element 115.

Just look up Ununpentium on google... that will take you to the latest data from the science world

Maybe Bob was not so crazy after all

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ust look up Ununpentium on google... that will take you to the latest data from the science world

Ununpentium

History On February 1, 2004, the synthesis of ununpentium and ununtrium were reported in Physical Review C by a team composed of Russian scientists at Dubna University's [1] (www.uni-dubna.ru...) Joint Institute for Nuclear Research [2] (www.jinr.dubna.su...), and American scientists at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory . Their discovery of the element still awaits confirmation. [3] (www.nytimes.com...) The team reported that they bombarded americium (element 95) with calcium (element 20) to produce four atoms of ununpentium (element 115). These atoms, they report, decayed to ununtrium (element 113) in a fraction of a second. The ununtrium produced then existed for 1.2 seconds before decaying into known elements. Ununpentium is a temporary IUPAC systematic element name.

Ununpentium in popular culture Ununpentium was theorized to be inside the island of stability. This probably explains why it was mentioned regularly in popular culture before it was actually created: * In the world of UFO conspiracy theory culture during the 1980s and 1990s, Bob Lazar asserted that ununpentium functioned as "fuel" for UFOs, being "stepped up" to ununhexium under "particulate bombardment," and that the ununhexium's decay products would include antimatter. These processes are considered implausible in terms of nuclear physics, not least due to the very short half-lives of both elements. * As a reference to this kind of UFO conspiracy theory, in the X-COM game series there is an element called elerium-115 or just elerium ("elerium-115" probably being an error as in this form the number would have referred to the number of nucleons instead of the atomic number, meaning that elerium would have no neutrons, which is not possible). * A fictional stable isotope of ununpentium occurs in the game Dark Reign. * A fictional stable isotope of ununpentium occurs in the movie The Core. * A fictional stable isotope of "Element 115" powered the time machine in the TV Show Seven Days.

Element 115 is very unstable, decaying immediately. Element 115 isn't 115 for very long. I'm sure there is a chance that under certain conditions it could remain stable. Just because we can't keep it stable doesn't mean it's impossible. Remember today's impossibility is tomorrows technology.

Originally posted by DaMod
I'm sure there is a chance that under certain conditions it could remain stable. Just because we can't keep it stable doesn't mean it's impossible. Remember today's impossibility is tomorrows technology.

That's also what I wanted to say. Thanks.
But I am afraid that this little chance we are talking about is not very big one and is througout nonscientific from the beginning.
Scientists would argue, that everything could theoretically be formed in the lab. Why entering quasi esoteric realm and arguing that a massive bulk of Element 115 changes/influences decay properties?
Why arguing that (gravitational) conditions in giant solar systems influence the ratios of primordinal elements? Remember that it would be required for element 115 to be one of these primordinal elements...
I am only quoting this sentences to demonstrate how easy it is to enter non-scientific esoteric ways of thinking.
As I am higher educated, I never heard anything to confirm that massive bulks of fast-decaying elements show a difference in decay properties.
I believe I could also show a more detailed proof why it has to be impossible for heavier elements to ever be among the primordinal elements of a solar system.
If anybody is interested we could also go in that direction...

Originally posted by kidflash2008

I am a skeptic when it comes to claims at Area 51. It seems a nice diversion to what the base is used for: testing our developing air craft and drones.

Yeah... that's a good way to "divert" people from the govt developing aircraft and drones at Area 51..... have everyone believe Alien spacecraft are there.... that won't get people interested.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by Total Package]

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As I am higher educated, I never heard anything to confirm that massive bulks of fast-decaying elements show a difference in decay properties. I believe I could also show a more detailed proof why it has to be impossible for heavier elements to ever be among the primordinal elements of a solar system. If anybody is interested we could also go in that direction...

I agree with the decay properties part.

Perhaps you could show us why the heavier elements are not among the promordial elements in a solar system. We have heavier elements on earth like lead and element 92 and others. Is there a level above which they stop occurring naturally?

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Ah but who's to say the useful 115 that supposedly was used was not created in a lab? Hypothetically if Bob Lazar is telling the truth then it was used for interstellar travel. Would it have to be a natural element or one stumbled upon (we also stumbled upon it). Then conditions where tweaked (aka density core temperature etc.) to make 115 stable enough for the long haul. We know many ways of manipulating atoms perhaps a method was discovered by those to whom the craft was made for slowing the decay process. This is all speculation of course for the sake of argument but it shouldn't be ruled out. Do not be so quick to dismiss that which requires more study on our part. It is either a big dud or the greatest discovery in the history of mankind. Even though it may be a dud we should at least check first. Perhaps one day this dud will become more useful with future technologies.

Oh and never say you are "Higher Educated" that makes you sound arrogant. English was not Einstein's best subject after all. Keep your pineal gland in check please.

[edit on 13-8-2009 by DaMod]

Originally posted by metricmaker
If anybody is interested we could also go in that direction...

Nah I would rather explore the properties of Bismuth

Originally posted by DaModWould it have to be a natural element or one stumbled upon (we also stumbled upon it).

Is plutonium a natural element?

Oh and never say you are "Higher Educated" that makes you sound arrogant. English was not Einstein's best subject after all. Keep your pineal gland in check please.

One of my contacts, a Dr and holder of 23 top secret once said..

So...don't be shy or intimidated by men with (or from) 'alphabets' attached to their names. To prove the accuracy of my assertion just ask yourself: "If these guys know so much...why in the world are they asking me "? The answer is obvious (a Blind Man could 'see' the answer in a second)...you 'know' something that they don't know!

"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." - Arthur C. Clarke (RIP)

But... as you say "arrogance"