Why There Were No Helicopter Rescues At The WTC’s On 9-11

Originally posted by gavron
Was Boone 870s post in this thread, Roger?

Last post to you.

The question was answered as stated. Next time try to get some knowledge about something before responding.

reply to post by ULTIMA1


That was not what I asked now, was it?

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

if the answer is no, you cannot assume that a forum user has read the thread which you pulled that quote from....and is then a valid question.

So, I ask again...

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

Originally posted by gavron
Was Boone870s post in this thread?

The question was answered as stated. Next time try to get some knowledge about something before responding.

reply to post by ULTIMA1


Once again, you continue to refuse to answer the question. Why is that Roger?

That was not what I asked now, was it?

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

if the answer is no, you cannot assume that a forum user has read the thread which you pulled that quote from....and is then a valid question.

So, I ask again...

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

Originally posted by gavron
Why is that Roger?

Why is it you cannot apologize when you are proven wrong after calling someone a liar?

Why is is that you cannot do research to find out about things before responding?

[edit on 19-9-2008 by ULTIMA1]

reply to post by ULTIMA1


why is it you cannot answer the question before you?

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

if the answer is no, you cannot assume that a forum user has read the thread which you pulled that quote from....and is then a valid question.

So, I ask again...

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

Originally posted by gavron
why is it you cannot answer the question before you?

I did, you just do not like the answer.

I proved that the question had been answered on this forum. You just failed to do the research.



[edit on 19-9-2008 by ULTIMA1]

reply to post by ULTIMA1


Thats not what I asked. Please be adult and answer the question as asked.

Was Boone870s post in this thread?

Originally posted by gavron
Was Boone870s post in this thread?

Not in this thread but was on the forum. Try doing research, it helps too.

Now answer my question.

Were the planes armed with ammo for the cannons, YES or NO?

It took you 12 replies before you could answer one simple question.

Very adult of you.

To answer your question....

Oh wait! I have to drag out my answer 11 more posts before I can reply to you

Originally posted by gavron
Oh wait! I have to drag out my answer 11 more posts before I can reply to you

Its ok i know what would be your answer.

But we know the truth.



[edit on 19-9-2008 by ULTIMA1]

okay, i've only gotten through the first two pages worth of posts, but i've gotten pretty disguted enough with all of this stupidity.

Let me tell you why there were no helicopter rescues.

The smoke from the towers burning would have caused any helicopter that got too close to it (and by too close i mean basically in the smoke) to cause the blades to stop working correctly, and then crash. There is no point attempting to make a rescue if you know it means death.

The heat would have made it dangerous for the chopper as well, not to mention anyone trying to conduct a rescue mission. if anyone had made it to the top of the towers, they would have more than likely suffocated from the massive amounts of smoke within a short period of time. there were also no people on top of the tower to rescue.

the doors were locked for safety purposes. i don't think i have to explain why locking the doors to the roof of a 110 story building would be a safe thing. people had committed suicide off of the top of that building before 9/11.

most of those choppers were news choppers. how much room do you think a news chopper has inside of it? i'm sure it's very crowded in there.

if you really think those people were meant to die, then why was almost every single person below the crash point evacuated prior to the collapse of the towers? they died because a plane crashed into the building below them, and there was no possible means of escape or rescue.

if you have asked why a chopper didn't rescue the people in the windows on the side of the building, well in order to do that you'd need to get the ladder right up against the building, which is impossible because they're trying to rescue people that aren't on the top of the building, and in order to get the ladder (if there even is one) on the side of the building, you'd need to put the chopper against the building, and you can't do this because the blades are wider than the chopper. It's suicide for the pilot.

hologram technology is in early stages of devolpment. in order to project a boeing 747 crashing into a building, you would need massive projects set up throughout new york city, and everyone would know about them. you tell me one person who's seen these projectors. And, the best point of all. There were people on those planes. People just like the rest of us. Who had family, loved ones. And those loved ones are now without those people that were on the planes. You try telling the spouse of someone who was on that plane that that was a hologram that hit that building. I'd like to see you get away from them alive.

It would be impossible to store enough smoke bombs in that building to create smoke that thick for the period of time it went on. Not to mention, those were fires burning. From a plane. That crashed into the building.

The towers collapsed due to structural failure. The fires, i would believe, played a smaller part than two other major factors. One, being that a JUMBO JET crashed through the entire building, destroying the support beams that were located in the center of the building. And the second, that all of the weight of the building above the crash point weakening the heavily damaged crash zone caused it to eventually collapse, which is why you see the top part of the tower riding down the rest of the building, destroying it in it's path before it collides to the ground itself and is destroyed that way.

Also, the most obvious of all reasons of why this was not a government conspiracy to get into a war. America did not plan this. Osama Bin Laden did. Why? Because the United States favors Israel in the Middle East. Nobody else in the middle east likes isreal. And this was a terrorist act, and the message was "stay out of the middle east" so what did we do? We kicked the living # out of the taliban in Afghanistan for doing this to us. and they deserved it.

Thank you,
Teh_Ub3r_l33t_Pwnz0ring_NextGen[E]

reply to post by NextGen5


Excellent post! Starred!

Originally posted by NextGen5
The towers collapsed due to structural failure. The fires, i would believe, played a smaller part than two other major factors. One, being that a JUMBO JET crashed through the entire building, destroying the support beams that were located in the center of the building.

Problem is most reports state that the buildings withstood the plane impacts and that fire was the main cause of the collapse.

reply to post by ULTIMA1


None of the official reports state this because they havent been released yet.

The NIST report states it was a combination of the planes impacts, plus resulting fires, that started a chain of events that led to the eventual collapse.

Originally posted by gavron
None of the official reports state this because they havent been released yet.

None of the official reports state it was a combination since they have not been released.

The NIST report states it was a combination of the planes impacts, plus resulting fires, that started a chain of events that led to the eventual collapse.

But only the NIST report states this. Most other agencies reported the fire was the main cause of the collapse.

i would also like to add, in obvious proof of gravity collapsing the towers, that the second tower fell a while before the first one did, even though it was hit second (which is why we call it the second tower) The south tower fell first because of where the plane hit. The plane hit closer to the middle of the tower, while the first plane hit very close to the top. Because of this, there is obviously more weight on the damaged portion of the 2nd tower than there is the 1st tower. I'm not sure how to put this into any more obvious terms. The south tower has a weak point in the middle, with a lot of weight resting on it. the north tower has a weak point near the top, with a lot, but not nearly as much weight as the south tower has on it's weak point. therefore, the structural integrety of the south tower does not hold nearly as long as the north tower and it caves in.

i cannot see any reason why you would want to believe that the government, full of american loving americans, would want to kill their own people in order to go fight a war. look at what you're saying. THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. Go look up the words World, Trade, and Center. Trade has a few different meanings, but the one we are talking about here is economy. this was where trade was done with the world. business, buying and selling. these buildings were a major part of our economy. the stock markets were closed for days and reported major losses on reopening. the government is not an evil thing. they do not wish harm upon its citizens or the economy. they are there to protect them. You think the united states government is such a terrible thing. go move to north korea and tell me how you like it there. it is akin to soviet russia. north koreans are not allowed to access media from south korea or anyone associated with them. why? because they don't want their people realizing that life is better in other places. they are oppressed. they are the ones that have a lying, killing government. Not the united states.

this was also a product of the clinton administration. it was during his two terms in office, while he ignored what israel was doing, and favoring them, that the terrorists planned this attack out.

there is no way in hell that in the first 7 months of Bush's inauguration that he pissed off the taliban and they managed to put together that plan in that short of a time and execute it the way they did.

so for all you bush haters...you're absolutely wrong.

I would really like to see you disprove with facts and logic every single point i have made in both of my posts. but i'm not going to. because you cannot. 9/11 was exactly what the official report told it to be.

reply to post by mirageofdeceit


I think the reason is simply because it happened so quick. It was absolute chaos. No one knew what was going on.

you reposted so soon! look at that. I didn't say it was a small part. I said it was small in comparison. Yes, it did play a major role. The impacting of the plane was the initial major damaging of the structural support. the fires then speeded up the weaking process, but gravity was the main factor, as it made the weight of the tower above the damaged zone help it collapse, as i just explained in my second long post

reply to post by gavron


thanks, gavron. i've spent two hours or so on this forum that i just discovered trying to pour some sense into people's heads. 9/11 conspiracy theories really anger me. Why? Because i'm an American, and damn proud of it.