I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by zenfish

Like when Owen Wilson and Ben Stiller were questioning that naked cheerleader in "Starsky and Hutch."

Do you have a link to a video excerpt of this and maybe a still picture? I never go to the movies. Thanks.

As a matter of fact I do. It reminds me of some of the situations I got into while touring on the road, back in the good ol' days.

I forgot to mention the solidness comes through loud and clear, John.

Don't let the wife know what you're spending all your time watching on the net. Research, research, research.

www.youtube.com...

Hey again sleeper,


I have another question if you don't mind. You may have answered this already, if so my apologies. This one has really been burning my brain lately. You say that your alien contact told you to start this thread to make people aware of ETs. What I don't understand is why these ETs want us to be aware of thier existance, if they have no intentions to openly reveal themselves. If our purpose on this planet is to experience the world and live out our lives, wouldn't knowing that thier are Utopian planets and other such things make it harder to live on this rock? So my question is, what is the purpose of making us aware of these beings if they have no intentions on being apart of our reality?

Hey Sleeper,

A little direction re: subconscious, pretty please.

The newest real time MRI two hemisphere brain research is essentially saying that 95-99% of what one is is subconscious and that even during gestation, all environment, emotions, etc. are being downloaded to our hard drive up to about 6 years old--we are almost in a hypnotic trance yet picking up billions of bits of info even as we play with our toys.

Obviously, some misinterpretations happen.

You caution anyone to mess...why?

If we could delete the misinterpretations and stuff that are subconsciously running our lives, wouldn't that be a good thing?

If our souls are in learning modes, and if we could carefully see and really learn about our life tests, wouldn't that speed up the process off this rock?

Originally posted by evanmontegarde
I see now that you (sleeper) say that we receive advanced knowledge only as the ETs give it to us, which is a tidy and certainly fits with the rest of what you say. That said, I'm still not fully convinced of that - If only because the prospects of our universe excite me far more than that of any ET life.

Fair enough

It's certainly convenient that although there are many different alien species none of them are willing to divulge the universe's greater secrets to the thousands of people they contact.

If that were true we would still be eating moths around the campfire and grunting on how much life sucked---I guess we really haven’t come all that far.

That said, I'll continue to read my science news, and slowly but surely I'll see that more of the universe's mysteries are being revealed.

I love science news

The only hitch I see with the "aliens beam us knowledge" explanation, besides the lack of (I hate this word) proof, is that it doesn't fit as well with the development with some of our science, i.e. string theory (Where the theory was developed for one reason, ignored, changed to fit another reason, laughed at, changed yet again, then taken into serious consideration). Why all the hoops?

If info came in neat little packages complete and ready to go---stamped complements from your friendly neighborhood extraterrestrials it would spoil the affect.

Why then do ETs allow some of their craft and entities to be seen if they don’t want to spoil the affect?

They don’t for the vast majority of the population and do for some----why? Because---but why? Because, but that’s not fair---who said anything about fair?---why are they not fair? Because---etc, etc, etc.

I didn't make the crazy rules; I only talk about what I have seen and what they let me know about the big picture---why? Because I don't have a life-------actually I do have a life and I enjoy my life---writing this stuff is work and I put up with it---why?---dam good question---

Originally posted by dodgygeeza
Hi Sleeper, thanks alot for the replies.
Whats your take on the Hollow Earth/planet theory and peoples disappearances in the Burmuda triangle etc? Alot of people have claimed that there are massive underground cities in certain mountains .

Hi dodgy,

There is mucho underground space probably enough to put all of humanity into. But is the earth hollow, no.

A lot of folklore is real stuff, at least to some degree, but those who know for sure aren’t allowed to talk, nor do many of them have the opportunity to talk.

The surface, the interior and the space above are all busy places for humans, hybrids and outright extraterrestrials. Some of the people who disappear have stumbled by accident or curiosity on things that will remain secret and they therefore become part of the mystery and folklore.

The Bermuda triangle as well as other places on this planet are hot spots of activity and sometimes people get burned---curiosity kills more than cats---and so do accidents.

Originally posted by zenfish

As a matter of fact I do. It reminds me of some of the situations I got into while touring on the road, back in the good ol' days.

I forgot to mention the solidness comes through loud and clear, John.

Yeah, well thanks zenfish, but I watched that video a hundred times already and I still don't get it.

Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by zenfish

Yeah, well thanks zenfish, but I watched that video a hundred times already and I still don't get it.

You'll never get it if you've never had it, John. Better watch it a few more times just to make sure. Sorry bud.

Hello Sleeper,

Thank you for your earlier given answer.
For me, it gives me the feeling that there is justice after all.

Originally posted by sleeper
Most of them watch the explosion while out of their bodies before it happens.

Then, I suppose that they had an presentiment by themselves, or they are warn by others?


Can you give me your opinion about the being in this image?

Source; projectcamelot.net...

Is this indeed close of how an Gray Alien looks.

Here are some remarks of two witnesses.

He immediately saw that it was "very unique" inasmuch as the model was "very close" to what a true Gray Alien was.

"what was wrong about this was the fact that the nose is too large - it was just a very small protrusion - and with the mouth you don't really have lips, just a straight line across."

that it was extremely lifelike, that the nose and lips were too large, and that the musculature at the back of the head was typical - although interestingly, Jim suggested that it was more pronounced than he had witnessed and wondered whether the model might have been taken from a dead alien.

Hello Sleeper.

Thanks for your comments.

We are changing the world now faster than at any other time in human history. Unfortunately, things are not changing for the better, our world seems to be getting worse due to the heinous failures of our political systems.

Leonardo DiCaprio's New Movie "The 11th Hour" outlines the failures of our political system and the monstrous consequences these failures will have on our planet and peoples if folks don't wake up and take action.

Sleeper, what do you think about Leonardo DiCaprio's new movie? Will it make a difference to help inspire people to work harder to change the world for the better? Or is the world going down the drain as the movie implies it might?

I would like to express my authentic feelings of appreciation, for sharing your views with us, and to the innermost presence of the divine spark within you. Live in clarity. Live in purpose. Live in the knowledge that the same divine spark within each of us is one within the eternal loving heart of God.

Thanks again.

PS: I know that as a Republican appologist you claim that, "We are not here to change the world," and you like to blame the 'Aliens' for all the troubles in the world. Many of us believe you are wrong in you opinions, and despite what you say, are dedicated to working hard to make the changes necessary to improve conditions on earth for future generations. Have you changed you position regarding humanity's inate ability to influence earth changes, or do you still stubbornly persist to maintain the error of your ways?


[edit on 9/3/2007 by Rudolph_X]

Originally posted by Rudolph_X

Many of us believe you are wrong in you opinions, and despite what you say, are dedicated to working hard to make the changes necessary to improve conditions on earth for future generations

Such as?

Please, feel free to elaborate and explain that statement. I am very curious as to how that might be accomplished. If you have some plan you have conceived to better the world of tomorrow, then it would be a crime to keep silent, now that you have said this.

reply to post by Blackdude


Hi Blackdude,

The human enigma has something for everyone; we have Santa Clause yet is Santa real or only a fairytale for our children? Or is the whole thing only a ploy a means for us to spend money during a certain time of year in order to keep people employed, and our economy running?

Well, both actually. But the fact remains that many people and children do get the gifts and the magic that the myth promises---because behind the big curtain in our mind the spirit of Santa is not a myth---it is the real deal.

But not for all---why? Because that is the way of this world---fairness is the real myth---or so it would appear to the human mind.

Alright, I have a few questions that may seem incredibly weird or off the mark, but please bear with me.

First of all, I got the crazy idea the other day that the weather is somehow affected by the collective emotions of humans. Is there any truth to this?

Also, can the tendency to fidget have anything to do with ET contact?

Another thing that's been getting me is where the line exists between inspired acts (creativity) and free will. If I consciously choose to hit a sequence of piano keys, how is this an act which a higher form of life has communicated? If the question doesn't make sense I can further clarify.

If 100 people got together and prayed for an event to happen or not happen, would the chances significantly increase that their prayer is carried out? 1000 people? What if the 'gods' disapprove of what is being prayed for?

Is sexual temptation a test put in place by ETs to test integrity? I ask because I've been in very tricky situations recently, in which it was tough to do the right thing.

Originally posted by muse801
Hey Sleeper,

A little direction re: subconscious, pretty please.

The newest real time MRI two hemisphere brain research is essentially saying that 95-99% of what one is is subconscious and that even during gestation, all environment, emotions, etc. are being downloaded to our hard drive up to about 6 years old--we are almost in a hypnotic trance yet picking up billions of bits of info even as we play with our toys.

Obviously, some misinterpretations happen.

You caution anyone to mess...why?

Hi muse,

The brain is designed to systematically correlate information into the appropriate slot---that way everyone gets their mail---in other words you get your mail and not your neighbor’s mail.

We humans are not our brain, we only have use of it like we do desktop or laptop computers----how many of us are qualified to get into the operating systems of our computers? Even those who know can and do make mistakes.

We don’t need to get under the hood to drive our cars---especially now days because they are very complex machines unlike fifty years ago.

We have 24/7 access to our subconscious mind without having to go deep into unchartered waters---but we are free to do so and explore if we wish

If we could delete the misinterpretations and stuff that are subconsciously running our lives, wouldn't that be a good thing?

Hypnosis to quit smoking and other human modifications is well and good for those unwilling to do it on their own.

The fact is machines, androids have no need for modifications why not turn the human machine into such a creature, a zombie---programmed with all the good things and not the bad and awkward stuff?

Most human modification are done to undue what we willingly did to ourselves---the lesson for those who might be interested is that undoing something is much more complicated than doing it.

The choices we make have bigger consequence than most of us believe to be fair. Stealing a pen from a boss or company is justified in most people’s minds because the boss is greedy and makes lots of money and never pays us what we are worth---no matter our justification---stealing is stealing and it has consequences that most would deem unfair.

It’s not about the pen or the value of the pen, or the greed of the boss, or our bad habits, its about personal integrity---bad habits are part of that package----I must sound like the biggest bore---

If our souls are in learning modes, and if we could carefully see and really learn about our life tests, wouldn't that speed up the process off this rock?

If we humans truly understood what a fantastic thing a soul is we would be ashamed to treat it the way we do.

If we owned a Lamborghini we would take care of it as if it were a god---it’s one fine superb machine that makes any human lucky enough to have one feel really special---almost god like when behind the wheel---

The soul is a billion times more cool than a billion Lamborghinis---yet look how we treat it.

The soul is built to last forever, and it is built to take us anywhere in this galaxy, it will allow us to hobnob with the real gods---

But the true value of the soul remains hidden for most humans while here on earth---and will remain hidden until we each earn our place in the universe----which it is one heck of a place

So why is it important to fine tune the soul without all the shortcuts? Because it is a fantastic vehicle that will give mere mortals access to the stars---once we get handed the keys that is.

Hyperbole the naysayers will say---quite the opposite, all my hyperbole doesn’t even scratch the surface to what awaits us in the heavens.

Originally posted by meller
First of all, I got the crazy idea the other day that the weather is somehow affected by the collective emotions of humans. Is there any truth to this?

If that were true we wouldn’t have so many beautiful and perfect sunny days in my large city---

Also, can the tendency to fidget have anything to do with ET contact?

No

Another thing that's been getting me is where the line exists between inspired acts (creativity) and free will. If I consciously choose to hit a sequence of piano keys, how is this an act which a higher form of life has communicated? If the question doesn't make sense I can further clarify.

Did you build the computer---your brain that sends those electrical signals to your hand to hit the keys? Did you or did your brain accumulate the info that got you to where you are now---experimenting with the piano keys?

Who inside your subconsciouse mind provided you with inspiration, choices to pick from, ability to know what sounds right and what doesn’t?

you are free to pick the good from the bad---that is free will

If 100 people got together and prayed for an event to happen or not happen, would the chances significantly increase that their prayer is carried out? 1000 people?

It increases the odds only

What if the 'gods' disapprove of what is being prayed for?

They may grant it---but will deliver up the consequence should any be merited afterword.

Is sexual temptation a test put in place by ETs to test integrity? I ask because I've been in very tricky situations recently, in which it was tough to do the right thing.

Sex is a gift not a temptation---and is only evil if used for evil purposes----sex itself is never evil---however, people can be evil with anything they think they have control over.

Hey Sleeper,

Thanks for the subconscious bit--I think I get it--subconsciously.

You read a lot about enlightenment ie: we are all one or all connected, does that include the bazillions of entities or certain ones or none of the above?

Did you have a say in choosing this earth gig?

Do you know why you were put with your wife and kids?

Were your construction skills and writing talents from previous existences?

Were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Washington aware of there purpose here on Earth? Did they know about ET?

Has Hilllary cut a deal with the bankers for her presidency?

Originally posted by TinFoilDerby

Originally posted by Rudolph_X

Many of us believe you are wrong in you opinions, and despite what you say, are dedicated to working hard to make the changes necessary to improve conditions on earth for future generations

Such as?

Please, feel free to elaborate and explain that statement. I am very curious as to how that might be accomplished. If you have some plan you have conceived to better the world of tomorrow, then it would be a crime to keep silent, now that you have said this.

Hello TinFoilDerby.

Thanks for your comments.

You obviously have not read any of the previous posts I've made all throughout this thread, since the beginning. Indeed, you should probably go read this thread in its entirety, because the questions you ask have all been asked before and have already been answered many times over. Go read the previous posts if you truly are interested in our opinions. After you've read this thread from beginning to end, come back, and then you can tell us about what you've found. I'm interested in hearing about what you learn.

Thanks again.

PS: I have better things to do than to sit here and repeat everything I previously said. Go read my earlier posts, if you are interested, and don't forget to follow the links. But, of course, you won't bother to do that.

You might learn that I am the Founder & Director of the "Institiute for the Evolution of a Savior," the first formal scientific organisation in the history of the world to conduct research conference and literally plan for the evolution of a "Christ". You might learn that I am the author of "Scientific Salvation: The Quest for Ultimate Survival," and the "Theory and Plan for the Evolution of a Savior," where I've outlined my scientific theory and plan for the evolution of a "Christ".

I don't discuss these matters here on Sleeper's thread because Sleeper is Anti-Christ, and espouses an unscientific Anti-Evolutionary philosophy, and I haven't come to this thread to agrue with him about my scientific ideas and endeavors.

One should remember that Sleeper is merely telling his personal stories, whereas my 'theory and plan' is strictly scientific and the scientific mathematical proofs are irrefutable.

There is a big difference to simply telling a personal story with no evidence or proof as Sleeper does, as compared with me providing a scientific theory with hard evidence and mathematical proofs.


[edit on 9/3/2007 by Rudolph_X]

Hello sleeper,

I have a question again: Do you know everything about the possibilities of any human soul?

Hey Rudolf X,

I absolutely enjoy reading all of your posts and I do believe you are heading for something really important.

Rudolf's "scientific mathematical proofs are irrefutable".

Really? What if "it" is all reduced to billions of like minded theories? Ya' know,,,,Pixie dust...LOL

My views, experiences and logic were exactly where you are now.

Then, NOT BY ACCIDENT, I coincidently (hmmm) stumbled on to ATS and Sleeper who reminded me of stuff I knew to be true.

Work with sleeper and watch what happens.

reply to post by Rudolph_X


A Hale and Hearty Hello ... and thanks for the comments, Rudy.

I have read all 193 pages of this thread, but I must confess, I may have paid more attention to sleeper’s comments and answers more than I did yours. I am pretty sure that I started becoming tired of skeptical derailment sometime around page one or so, ... (not to insinuate that's what you have been doing, but clearly, you are not completely in the 'sleeper camp' ...)
... but I had been aware of sleeper's threads and posts and the venom they attract since and a little before his last big one (plain as the nose on your face).
It’s quite a labor to get through the first third of this thread, let me tell you, and if anything, I agree with a previous poster that we should be well on our way to ‘level one’ just for the feat of getting this far alone ...

While I was going to refresh myself specifically on your past comments to decipher what you were and are talking about, you made another snap assumption about me that, while under normal circumstances I might have found abrasive; but frankly, it really saved me some time ... thanks, in earnest.


[edit on 3-9-2007 by TinFoilDerby]

Originally posted by muse801
Hey Sleeper,
Thanks for the subconscious bit--I think I get it--subconsciously.

You read a lot about enlightenment ie: we are all one or all connected, does that include the bazillions of entities or certain ones or none of the above?

Hi muse,

We are individuals and will always be individuals---with access to a huge pool of knowledge, which kind of ties us together but not everyone has the same access---there is no uniform doling out of info---and no automatic right to any info.

Did you have a say in choosing this earth gig?

I picked this gig

Do you know why you were put with your wife and kids?

It’s a rendezvous

Were your construction skills and writing talents from previous existences?

I got them while here

Were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Washington aware of there purpose here on Earth? Did they know about ET?

They certainly were aware, and they did know about the little green men---

Has Hilllary cut a deal with the bankers for her presidency?

No bankers she went straight to the top, Oprah, unfortunately for Hillary Oprah prefers Obama---Hillary will get in if she gets the votes---no other way---god sometimes plays with dice or lets us play with dice