USA ready for takeover by Foreign Troops!

Here's one of those posts. You gotta check out the link, go and read this whole article! FFG

In a letter to Soldier of Fortune magazine, a Border Patrol agent stated that “The vast majority of the American people are totally oblivious that armed forces of a foreign nation routinely violate the sovereignty of the U.S.”

Out of Newsmax.com

Mexican Army Invades U.S.
Phil Brennan, NewsMax.com
Wednesday, March 12, 2003

It’s the war nobody wants to talk about: well-armed Mexican soldiers storming across America’s southern border, sometimes with guns blazing.
“We are in state of war,” Edward Nelson, chairman of U.S. Border Control, told Soldier of Fortune magazine. “And we are fighting enemies who have brought the battle to our shores. If ever there was a time for the United States to put troops on the border, it is now.”

A blockbuster exposé in the magazine's March issue notes that over the past five years, there have been 120 documented incidents of Mexican military/police incursions, sometimes resulting in the arrest of Mexican army personnel on U.S. soil by Border Patrol agents.

Thousands of Mexican soldiers, often ill-trained draftees, have been moved up to the border allegedly to fight narcotics smuggling. Many times these armed men cross the border chasing drug traffickers.
“Anytime you have the Mexican military running around with all these weapons and military gear it’s quite frightening,” said Raleigh Leonard, a Border Patrol public information officer.
The magazine cites incidents such as the one in March 2000 where soldiers in two Mexican army Humvees fired on Border Patrol agents in El Paso, Texas, and another in October, when 10 Mexican soldiers fired at a Border Patrol helicopter in California. www.newsmax.com...

By the way, everything I'm finding points the finger to Red China as being the supplier of Mexican weapons, etc..... How many of you have read the reports of foreign troops being spotted on our side of the border? There are many newspages of these. San Diego County is where they have been finding the Chinese ammo all over. It stands to reason that China is helping Mexico build up their military machine. My research shows China has been funding the major drug lords as well. There have been reports of people actually seeing Chinese troops doing manuevers near the border. Now either they are just helping the Mexican military (that in itself is scary) or they are training the Mexican military to aid Red China when the Invasion takes place. ffg

On an added note* Newsmax usually uses The Associated Press.


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[edit on 9-1-2007 by FreedomFighterGrL]

So if this entire article is correct, you may add this news too. Because in this case, the news below is sounding like a strategical troop redeployment to leave less soldier in the U.S.

Official. Bush is sending app. 20000 soldiers into Iraq.
www.cnn.com...

As scary as it is, you could be right. I have always read, that the scenerio we are discussing, will happen in a time when most of our troops are out of the US.

I voted for GW. I pray for GW. But you know what? It seems as if someone else crawled into his brain and stayed there.
I think he's deceived about this whole NWO plan. He thinks it's going to actually HELP us. I pray this doesn't happen at the present time. But anyone who is not blind can look at these signs of what is being planned.

By the way, everything I'm finding points the finger to Red China as being the supplier of Mexican weapons, etc..... How many of you have read the reports of foreign troops being spotted on our side of the border? There are many newspages of these. San Diego County is where they have been finding the Chinese ammo all over. It stands to reason that China is helping Mexico build up their military machine. My research shows China has been funding the major drug lords as well. There have been reports of people actually seeing Chinese troops doing manuevers near the border. Now either they are just helping the Mexican military (that in itself is scary) or they are training the Mexican military to aid Red China when the Invasion takes place. ffg

On an added note* Newsmax usually uses The Associated Press.

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Does anyone else find it amusing that these Americans here are crying CHINESE THREAT because there is a... well, lets just say "amusing" theory that China is training Mexican troops.

I think you Americans FORGET is that you yourself have MILITARY BASES AND AIR BASES surrounding China with the ability to bomb ANY Chinese city within an hour. AND YET YOU SAY YOU ARE THREATEN WITH A THEORY THAT MEXICAN TROOPS ARE BEING TRAINED BY CHINA??!


Let me put it in picture for you: It's like YOU having a GUN and pointing it at my head; and when I take out a teeny little WATER PISTOL you say that I am THREATENING you.

Give me a break...


I want some HONEST answers here, HOW would you Americans feel if China were to place air bases in Cuba and Mexico with the ability to bomb any American city within an hour? ... EXACTLY. And you AMERICANS DARE HAVE THE NERVE to cry out THREAT with something as ridiculous as THAT "news story."



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The Russian and Chinese general staffs have long been fascinated by Hitler's invasion of Norway. In that invasion German combat units entered Norway disguised as civilians.

Here's some important info I discovered a few years ago on WND, written by the Great JR Nyquist! read this, it's important. But please go to the link, you guys need to read this whole thing! ffg

The Final Phase
JR Nyquist
WorldNetDaily Exclusive Commentary

China's silent invasion

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Posted: August 19, 1999
1:00 a.m. Eastern


Mexico's top drug trafficking cartel, run by the Arellano Felix brothers in Tijuana, is working closely with the Chinese. According to Jamie Dettmer, writing in the August 23 issue of Insight magazine, ships arriving in Mexico from China may contain "more than illegal immigrants." The Chinese are pumping people and supplies into Mexico, and the cargo is considered so sensitive that it is "often under the apparent protection of Chinese and Mexican naval vessels."

American authorities are helpless, as usual, to block this strategic smuggling operation on our southwest border. America is helpless because President Clinton will not support improved border controls, and he won't get tough with the Mexican government. Clinton's immigration policy can be characterized as appeasement of the Mexicans, appeasement of the Chinese and a "who cares?" attitude.

Setting aside the issue of dangerous drugs and illegal immigration, the reason we should worry about drug and alien smuggling into this country, and the reason that no effort should be spared in making our borders impenetrable, is because nuclear and biological weapons can be smuggled into the country by the same routes that illegal narcotics are smuggled. According to Colonel Stanislav Lunev, highest ranking defector from the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Russian General Staff, narcotics trafficking is a way of establishing secure pathways into the United States. If there is a hole in our border due to corruption by drug traffickers, that hole can be used to ship more than narcotics. It can be used to ship suitcase nuclear bombs. Laugh if you like, but the United States is not invincible. If an alliance of relatively weak countries intended to defeat the United States in a war, they would have to take advantage of every potential avenue of attack. The open U.S. border to the south is an obvious weak point. In a typical war scenario, after a general nuclear exchange, thousands of Chinese soldiers pre-deployed to Mexico could move across the border and grab key points. Therefore, Chinese and Mexican warships escorting Chinese shipments to Baja California should raise a red flag.

www.worldnetdaily.com...

Please click on this link and read everyone! ffg

K4, with all due respect, I have been researching this for a long time now. At least sit back and check out what we are posting here.
www.globalpolitician.com...

Global Politician
Terror Threats During November 2005
Ryan Mauro - 12/10/2005

Global Politician's Terror threats for November 2005.

" There have been unconfirmed reports of a suspected Al-Qaeda operative being apprehended near the Mexican border. The spokesperson for Representative John Culberson of Texas has revealed more into potential terrorist activity near the border including, that purported arrests of “special interest aliens” was on the rise. The spokesperson also spoke of a “paramilitary training camp” near Matamoras, Mexico, which is just across the Rio Grande River.

"Former special forces officers, trained in Nicaragua and Guatemala, purportedly operate the camp, and it is suspected that smugglers and terrorists are present at the camp. The spokesperson also spoke of a sheriff confirming that the Al-Qaeda suspect was hiding at a community across the Rio Grave River “for a while” and may have been monitoring border activity. "

The following might help answer your question K4. This is also out of Global Politician and I will have to hunt for a link, so give me a few minutes mod.

The lack of a cogent American strategy towards potential Chinese aggression, and China’s increasing gain on the U.S., in terms of technology and financial power, is resulting in a shift in attitude among Asian allies. It is a likely scenario that countries in the Asia-Pacific region will begin shifting towards China’s sphere of influence, finding more security in obeying Chinese demands than refusing, with limited U.S. support.

In fact, Tokyo’s governor has publicly stated that, in a war between China and the U.S., “I believe America can not win because it has a civil society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives.” He claimed that U.S. ground forces, except for the Marines, were “extremely incompetent” and that China would not hesitate deploying nuclear weapons on Asian and U.S. cities, even with the threat of U.S. retaliation. Apparently observing the lack of U.S. reserves and resolve in absorbing casualties in Iraq, he stated that, after 2,000 casualties with a war with China, the U.S. would likely withdraw.

Everyone: Please check out this link. It's important stuff. ffg


K4: I'm not a military expert or a president. I can't answer for the president or our past presidents. You clearly have a problem with the US. I love my country but we are not perfect. I'm sure we have made some mistakes. I would still rather be here then anywhere in the world. And I still have a desire to remain a free Nation and people.



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Even if the over seas US Forces are eliminated that only cuts out 200,000 or so troops and if they try to invaded the mainland even after nuclear strikes. Whatever pentrating ground forces they use will be eliminated by the at home US forces and millions of civilans. We know the ground, terrain and the will of the american people.


Only worry is if the allies are attacked and cant help or if they turn and flip on us. I'm worried about England and Japan seeking revenge!

There's a few things you're forgetting about.
#1 is the fact that they're are sleeper cells all ready here and they are not all Muslim, there are also Chinese cells here.
#2. They would probably use the surprise method and catch everyone off guard. Speaking of all of you guys who are bringing up the militia's, etc. I love those guys but to be honest, there is not alot of organization there. What happens the first few hours of an attack will leave everyone in array and fighting to keep their own families alive.
Something else, I hear there are thousands of foreign troops all ready stationed on alot of our US bases. If we had a dirty bomb or nuke attack, those troops would be called out to help 'keep the peace' during martial law. Tommy Franks, the well known General and US militaryCommander said that in the event of another attack on US soil, we would most likely become a Military state, that our Constitution would probably not survive.

Anyway, you take a martial law situation. They come in and take away the guns. Now, our own troops wouldn't do that, but the foreign troops would have no trouble taking away our guns or firing on us.


There's more but that's just a few things to think about.

Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack
John O. Edwards, NewsMax.com
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003

www.newsmax.com...




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G'day all,

Back again with yet more facts and information to hopefully educate the ignorant few and those who honestly want to learn about what is really going on.Do not beleive the media, it is censored and manipulated to make you think a certain way. Why are another 20,000troops going to Iraq? So theres 20,000less troops at home - and 20,000more UN troops or other when an invasion takes place. Stay with me here, I got some good facts and info for ya all.
The following is from the following link - www.newswatchmagazine.org...

Here I shall put up some photos to back both my claims and those of Freedom Fighter Girl who is doing a fantastic job as part of this thread.

Below is a picture of a current and ready in waiting Prisoner of War Camp at Fort Dix, New Jersey


Next are some picture of barbed wire fences and watch towers -



Next up are some picture of portable jails going into the compunds for erection -



The following 3 pics were taken close to Nellis Air Force Base (next to Union Pacific Railroad Tracks & I-15)




The next few pics I will put up are of actual United Nations vehicles on the soil of America. These vehicles are coming into your ports -- namely Port Beaumont, Texas--at a staggering rate.
www.newswatchmagazine.org...
These vehicles include Humvees, Ambulances, Buses, and the last one should really freak you out, a missile launcher.








i61.photobucket.com...

The folowing pics are of 2 masked Russian vehicles being transported on a Texas highway. The lettering on the door is in Russian.
www.newswatchmagazine.org...



The following is a brief exeprt from an interview the site author had with a German soldier at Hooloman Air Force base, who was a willing participant in the interview - www.newswatchmagazine.org...

Quote - "David went to investigate the rumor that German troops are supposedly stationed at Holloman Air Force Base in Alamagordo, New Mexico. When he arrived, he met a German Soldier (pic above) who volunteered to be interviewed. He cheerfully answered all David's questions until David asked him straight out, "Are you being trained to occupy America's streets when Martial Law is declared?" Immediately afterward, the soldier raised his hands up, turned away, and left without speaking another word. Did David ask the right question? "

The following quote was asked to somebody painting former yellow school buses white, very interesting response -
www.newswatchmagazine.org...

Quote - "This was taken at a Chevy/Oldsmobile car dealership in Lafayette, Georgia.
When asked why these buses were being painted white, they responded that they were contracted to paint these buses so that United Nation's troops could be transported in America. "

What more must be said, shown and proven to warn you all of the impending troubles you will meet in the future. They are placing foreign troops under the UN banner so it doesnt seem so bad up front in forward deployment positions building up for future chaos, the very same way George Bush is forward deploying troops for a future war with Iran.

Do you see the corelation here folks? Your Yank troops get shipped offshore whilst these UN troops are being brought in ! Dont take Einstein to work out that this dont add up!

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Hey Melbourne,

You've got some fantasic Pictures here. SCARY, but
good pics as well. It's like I said in one of my posts, there
are bits and pieces of this puzzle out there. Only those not in denial will see them.
Criky! Mate! Good Job, Melbourne!


By the way, (on a side note) Crocs RULE! ffg

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FFG Where do you guys dig up such total fabrications? The USAF has been training the Luftwaffe pilots for about 50 years that I'm aware of. They've done it at Cannon, Holloman, Luke and Nellis. We've done exercises with most of the NATO countries in the desert southwest since the creation on NATO in the 50's. I recently retired from 20 years in the USAF and we train 100% of all fighter pilots in the world who fly American-built aircraft. Most Iranian Air Force pilots received their training from the USAF prior to 1979 and any pilots who've been trained since then have trained by pilots who were probably trained by us. Those UN vehicles are American vehicles returning from service in Bosnia, Egypt and other places where US troops were under UN Command as Peacekeepers. There going to be probably painted tricolors by the depot and sent to Iraq. Those Hummers cost $40k per vehicle and we don't give them away to anybody. Nothing more ironic to see Luftwaffe MiG-29's and Su-27's on Nellis AFB's ramp next to F-16 and F-15's and knowing they're training to fight together as a team. The RAF is going to buy the F-35 JTF and it wouldn't shock me a bit the Germans end up buying some of them,too. It never ceases to amaze me the level of ignorance that many civilians have about the US military's level of involvement with other countries' military and I'm not just talking about our traditional allies. Qhadafi was taught to speak English at Lackland AFB. Yamamoto attended Annapolis War College. Al Qaida was created by the CIA during the Carter/Reagan years. If the China want to learn the same lessens taught the Mexico during the 1840's, so be it. The US defeated the much larger Mexican Army at every major battle. It would be militarily strategic and economic suicide on the part of any country that would openly attack the US.

This is not fabrication. I'm aware of our US military training with other Nation's soldiers,that it is not all done for sinister motives, however there is more going on then meets the eye. It is not all black and white.
What amazes me is, your demeanor on here. I have no reason to make things up and I don't have time to waste either.
And I know Melbourne isn't making anything up. I repeat, just because you don't know of it personally, doesn't mean it's not true.
There is alot to this story, it involves more then one country, it involves an alliance of nations. We don't have all of the answers.that's why we are discussing the issue here.
Yes, our Nation's military is strong(thank God) but we are not unbeatable. The titanic was said to be unsinkable and look what happened to it. Our forefathers said, "United we Stand, divided we fall."
They were right. We are now a very divided nation who has left our beginnings, we have gone away from the very things that gave us our strength, our faith in our creator.

Abraham Lincoln said, "We have been the receipients of the choicest bounties of heaven. We have been preserved these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficent to feel the necesity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray, to the God that made us! It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness."
April 30,1863
President Lincoln's proclamation for a National day of Fasting, Humilation and Prayer

About the camps being built around the US, here's my take on them. If there's a major(as in Nuclear) terrorist attack on US soil. Every Muslim in the US will be put into one of these camps. Largely for their own protection. Many Japanese American citizens were attacked after Pearl Harbor. We had a Sikh store clerk in Phoenix killed by an ignorant racist bastard who thought he was killing a Muslim when I lived there in 2001. Sikh's by custom wear turbans but are a Hindu sect. They recently built a big camp down in the Lower Rio Grande Valley of Texas. Guess who built it? A Haliburton subcontractor. If a foreign troop comes to the door of most gun toting Texans, his squad will likely be ambushed, armored vehicle or not. If they go to any of the major ghetto areas of the inner cities, they're likely just as dead. The US has the most heavily armed populace in the world. If Bush and Co. thinks that he can declare martial law and take our guns, he's nuts. He's likely to have a million very pissed off Americans come drag him and his cronies out of the White House by their short and curly hairs for a quick impeachment for their gross incompetence for letting another major terrorist attack go off on US soil.

Just to add a little side note in regards to my previous post, have a look at this

www.infowars.net...

Its a report about the first four episodes of the new 24 series, and it depicts mass terrorism and the installation of martial law, and the rounding up of civilian, both legalally and illegal, guilty or not it dont matter and putting them into these concentration camps that I have spoken off.

There are clips of the show on the above link aswell so you can see for yourself.

I personally think that the government is trying to get these sorts of topics out into the masses to guage public opinion or to forewarn, or get them used to the idea that if something this big does happen, this is what we are going to do, wether you like it or not.

Have a look.

Just want to add a quote here from the above site in regards to the last sitting of congress before christmas and this has nothing to do with the movie, its for real -

Quote - "Furthermore, one of the last acts of Congress before Christmas was to send President Bush a bill that establishes a $38 million program of National Park Service grants to preserve Japanese POW internment camps in Hawaii, California, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and Idaho."

Now, why do you think they did that? Ohhhh! I dont know, maybe they are expecting something to happen? What do you think boo-boo? Smarter than the average bear or what?

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FFG and MelMil, forgive my tone but I've known how despicable the Bush Clan has been since before his Dad was President. W. screwed a lot of people down here in Texas back during the oil collapse of the 80's. There was a lot of back room dealing to make him Governor back in '94. They spent a lot of money to get him elected. I don't think that most folks who are outside the military are aware of how hard it would be to subdue the US population. Think Iraq only thousandfold. Any plans the NWO to attempt a military coup wouldn't survive after the first day/attempt of implementation. I don't know about the rest of the US but here in Texas, a large and growing number of folks are fed up with status quo of national level politicians, both parties. It wouldn't take much to push them over the bounds of civilized behavior towards the politicians in Washington especially with absolute bungling of an unjust war in Iraq.

I'm very skeptical about any UN Troop Takeover of the US seeing how they can't even support themselves without US funding. Americans aren't real friendly with each other but give them someone from outside to shoot at and they will get absolutely creative with ways to blow them up in some gruesome and unhealthy manner. We invented the A bomb and used it even though we didn't need it to bomb Japan back into the stone age.

Bombing Japan was the only way to end that war, it was impossible to attack the Japanesse main land with ground troops would of been a slaughter so knocking them into submission was the easiest way, it worked didnt it

Japan was completely incapable of offensive war by the time the US attacked Iwo Jima and Okinawa. We could have easily pushed the Japanese forces from Manchuria and Korea and avoided the Korean War. Then from bases in China and Korea bombed Japan with impunity. Japan was a defeated nation as much as Germany was after its failed invasion of the former Soviet Union. The invasion and occuaption of Japan was totally unnecessary. Japan has no petroleum reserves which is why they invaded Southeast Asia and the Phillipines. The Japanese were totally dependent on foreign coal and steel as well. A total naval blockade would have starved Japan into 3rd world status within a year or two. US bombers basically roamed free over Japanese airspace by the time the A-bomb was dropped.

Originally posted by crgintx
Japan was completely incapable of offensive war by the time the US attacked Iwo Jima and Okinawa. We could have easily pushed the Japanese forces from Manchuria and Korea and avoided the Korean War. Then from bases in China and Korea bombed Japan with impunity. Japan was a defeated nation as much as Germany was after its failed invasion of the former Soviet Union. The invasion and occuaption of Japan was totally unnecessary. Japan has no petroleum reserves which is why they invaded Southeast Asia and the Phillipines. The Japanese were totally dependent on foreign coal and steel as well. A total naval blockade would have starved Japan into 3rd world status within a year or two. US bombers basically roamed free over Japanese airspace by the time the A-bomb was dropped.

Also, US generals didnt want to stop there. One general actually called for 11-12 more bombs to be dropped on japanese forces. But later on was denied after the surrender of japan.

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