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the key that i want to know is what event wether coerced or staged wlll bring about the UN TROOPS to impose martial law, brainstorm anyone

we all know the majority of our troops are overseas, and the stooges that have infiltrated the u.s govt and DOD are surely well placed

by looking at the patterns in history


educate-yourself.org...

educate-yourself.org...

maybe someone can identify some of the things that are happening today (puzzle pieces) before the puzzle is complete and sorry for posting that link again but it is CRUCIAL to look at this piece of history so u can understand today better

the NWO/illuminati/shadow gov't has infiltrated and placed stooges inside our gov't and all our intelligent agency's they destroy from the inside out, don't call on the gov't to save you, we r fuked

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Originally posted by cpdaman
the key that i want to know is what event wether coerced or staged wlll bring about the UN TROOPS to impose martial law, brainstorm anyone

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I seriously beleive that the "staged" event that alot of people are expecting to happen will be the detonation of an ex-soviet suitcase 'mini-nuke' in a busy/populated area in a major capital.....staged is correct!

Maybe even during a prime time sports event with many people in the one stadium and you'd guarantee a massive deathtoll in a small vacinity.

Yeah its terrible trying to predict or analyse possible scenarios buts its worse not acceptin the fact that there are many corrupt official in places of power planning for worse.

BTW, CPDAMAN, just a little note of courtesy, when wanting to use expletives to convey anger/emotion etc, please try to substitute the middle letters with symbols as I beleive we all get the picture and this forum doesnt degrade to outright swearing.Thankyou

Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia

I seriously beleive that the "staged" event that alot of people are expecting to happen will be the detonation of an ex-soviet suitcase 'mini-nuke' in a busy/populated area in a major capital.....staged is correct!

Maybe even during a prime time sports event with many people in the one stadium and you'd guarantee a massive deathtoll in a small vacinity.

Agreed - and it would have to match or exceed the 9/11 toll.

Yeah its terrible trying to predict or analyse possible scenarios buts its worse not acceptin the fact that there are many corrupt official in places of power planning for worse.

Yep.

They pull the trigger - then blame the "bad guys" - and drag us into war, making us think it was our own patriotic idea.

american pride alone would prevent any land invasion of the US. There would be a guy on the roof of every liquer store with uzis spraying everything in site that didn't belong. We would have gang members relishing the opportunity to slaughter enemy troops whole sale with drive bye shootings, you would have malitia men everywhere using decent stratagies to assult enemy troops with more heavy weaponry than you know, you would have all of the us law enforcement available to counter strike the enemy, you would have 12 milion plus men with guns scattered everywhere in the us ready to fight, you would have a huge amount of retired ex military who if need be could operate electronic equipment and fire missiles from the local (presumed abandoned) US military instillations. you would have the national gaurd (whats left of them) to counter attack. You would have a group of educated people who are very familiar with the territory and it's resources creating havock on all assulting enemys. you would have the people working at all the utility companies sabotaging everything the enemy tried to use.

Anybody attempting a land invasion through force ofthe US is crazy and would fail.

it is like playing pin the tail on the donkey after 10 shots of tequilia trying to figure out there next move, but there really is nothing that can be done to stop the actual attack that i can think of, except maybe make the leaders in congress that ARE NOT Stooges aware that, there is many wolves in the hen house (us govt) planted to bring about a one world elitiest agenda/govt and we should look inside for sabotage (allowing things to happen)before we point to a (Country we should see that the groups in cohorts with the illuminati stooges may be multinational or have zero national ties.

i guess the question is how does the NWO want to bring perpetual danger to us , so that they can march on our streets and STAY here, what would be such a persistant danger that un troops are needed and to stay?

a lesson from 9/11 instead of picking a country to fight against which isn't fair cause there are terrorists in every country we should find who in the u.s govt (planted stooges) is allowing things like this to happen and get them out so we can protect ourselves. unless there are already the majority
, who oversaw the security and people going in and out of the WTC that could have planted explosives, who was the head air traffic controllers that were in cohoots and who had the u.s fighter pilots sit idily by and do squat. maybe these same people will be involved in the next situation, maybe not

but what would have to occur to have the un troops march on our street and stay here, and how would they be able to get the sheeple to buy this

what would be the steps or legislature necessary to disarm american's before

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Originally posted by FreedomFighterGrL
CBS, How dare you call me Hypocritical! We are discussing a real threat on here. Alot of these facts have been layed out by the United States's CIA! Please don't try and judge me. You don't know me!
This is a forum where we are supposed to discuss and that's what we are doing.




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A real threat? Do you know what a real threat is?

A real threat is INVADING a nation AGAINST the consensus of the UN and the entire world for "wmds" that miraculously dissapeared. In a worldwide survey, most people attributed the U.S.'s invasion of iraq as the BIGGEST global security threat - even larger of that than Iran's nuclear program.


Now, you're going to talk to me about a Chinese threat and dare say you aren't hypocritical?

You do realize that the United States has air bases, military bases SURROUNDING China with the ability to bomb any Chinese city within an hour.

If China were to build an airbase in Mexico with the ability to bomb any American city within an hour, how the hell would you guys feel?

Hypocrisy... Hypocrisy... Hypocrisy.

They moved these trucks into my home town North of the U.S. / Can border just above North Dakota, about 9 miles from the border in Estevan, Sask. They moved them here this summer and they've just been sitting here. You might want to look at this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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If there is an invasion or attempted invasion,.I think its safe to say there are enough militias, gang members, police, troops and regular citizens who would be defending their country.

I think it would be a massive task (and highly unrealistic) to pacify all the citizens of the U.S and succeed in a take over of a country the size of the United States.

However once the "invading troops" have been killed off and/or retreat, I think this would then lead to anarchy. Too many people would use this as an oppportunity to run amok and it would be extremely difficult to get society back into working order.

This is the perfect situation for the government to put in place martial law to regain order.

If you believe the theory of a nwo/illuminati and all that, this situation would be a perfect result for those who are in on it.

BTW- I can see most people in this thread can see this clear as day aswell, just wanted to add my 2 cents.

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does anyone know why freedom fighters posts are all being deleted on page 3 and 4, because i can assure you me and alot of other people in this thread would like to know what he has to say, with respect to the moderators and if it could be for our safety could it be possible to repost these links with the appropriate whatever, or just reasoning

i read the ex tags or whatever but how about she just puts a different subject line that wasn't within the text before attaching the link, or is it the link u are questioning is gotten from somewhere else.

either way i assure u many people are interested in what freedom fighter has to say and if u can assist her in figuring out what buttons on the computer to press to meet your new guidelines and do what seems like "obvious knowledge" for everyone that runs an online board it would be of service to those that would like to read the articles, usually i am not this fussy but i think i speak for more than myself in saying i am curious to what these posts about russia and china possibly planning a war with us had to say

The posts were straight copy and pastes from various sites (WND, Newsmax, JR Nyquist) and were devoid of member content. Since the posts violated both the ATS T & C's and the copyright of said material, they were deleted.

a lot of speculation and guesses and in my opinion all are wrong. Lets stop guessing and read the below post that comes from acumulated witnesses most of which are highly credible..

www.ufoevidence.org...

Imagine this: It is the summer of 2001, and someone presents you with a script for a movie or book that tells how a diabolical terrorist plot unfolds wherein both 110 story World Trade Center towers and part of the Pentagon are destroyed by commercial jets hijacked and flown into those structures.

Of course you would laugh, and if you were a movie mogul or book editor, reject it out of hand as ridiculous and implausible, even for a fictional novel or movie. After all, how could a commercial jet, being tracked on radar after two jets had already hit the World Trade towers, make it through our air defenses, into the most sensitive airspace in the world, and in broad daylight on a crystal clear day, slam into the Pentagon! And this in a country that spends over $ 1 billion a day to defend itself! Absurd, illogical - nobody would swallow it!

Unfortunately, there are some of us who have seen these scripts - and of far worse things to come - and we are not laughing.

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Werner Von Braun the father of modern rocketry told us a false flag would come to start a war with the aliens. This was the order of future threats...

American "Enemy's List" to Sustain War Mode and Pentagon Budgets

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Soviet Union
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Terorrists
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Asteroids
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Extraterrestrials

Read more here...

exopolitics.blogs.com...

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admriker444,

WOW, good information mate, Ive seen and read similar things on various reports on the net, but you seem to have intimate sources of this sort of information. Please if you may, could you contribute a little bit more of what you know to this topic we are discussing?

also, there is one unknown factor in the powers that be trying to pull off this large "alien threat" deception.....it'll be those aliens who actually have some sort of concious about man and the madness that our leaders acting out, that actually might get involved and take on the deception head first for the benefit of us....we can only hope, but like you said about the script thing...nothing aint impossible anymore.

ok i have read the hoaxed alien invasion many times also, and it seems to make sense

i have also read how there will be some disclosure from area 51 , there will be aliens-humans meeting and that the gov't will praise the aliens for there new "gifts" to technology and that we will get from them "that we already know about" and we will unite to fight against other aliens but in truth they are the "bad" aliens who end up manipulating us.

i don't know anymore, because even if they did condition us to be afraid of aliens and they did try to scare us about aliens, aliens still could be dangerous anyway. just listen to this logic for a moment

they condition the public (scare the public) , the sheeple buy it, the "alternative theorist's dont" they take the alternative theorist away for not buying it and being resistant to any laws they try to implement because of the alien threat and then we find out that aliens really ( reptoids-draconians) really are cold hearted emotionless power hungry group on the whole, and then we say silly us we were wrong the whole time.

then they have both groups in the BAG

would u really beleive that all aliens extra terrestrials whatever are peace ful and devoid of greed (if they exist) i dont think so and i think we may be doing someone else's dirty work for them (annuniki) but i digress

many point;

they could deceive US by telling the public the truth about aliens, cause the govt would scare them (the public) anyway and possibly unite them under war and fear, and we know they lie, so they could deceive us by telling the truth, knowing the general public will be in fear anyway, and that we when we find out that aliens really are evil too we may come to doubt ourselves . just a thought

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Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
admriker444,

WOW, good information mate, Ive seen and read similar things on various reports on the net, but you seem to have intimate sources of this sort of information. Please if you may, could you contribute a little bit more of what you know to this topic we are discussing?

also, there is one unknown factor in the powers that be trying to pull off this large "alien threat" deception.....it'll be those aliens who actually have some sort of concious about man and the madness that our leaders acting out, that actually might get involved and take on the deception head first for the benefit of us....we can only hope, but like you said about the script thing...nothing aint impossible anymore.

read everything you can about Werner Von Braun. He was part of the military-industrial complex and understood full well their long-range plans. He warned us of a war on terrorism 25 years before it happened. He also warns us of the so-called alien threat and the impending war with them under false pretenses.

The man also was intimately familiar with "false flag" operations as they are referred to here. An event that quickly rallies support for your cause.

As far as my background goes, I worked on a committee that tackled the issue of whether aliens would be hostile. We worked with SETI before the goverment cut its funding and made it private. There was much concern on what we should do if contact was made.

The military mind was not to respond in the event that the alien was hostile.

The Social Science fellas thought disaster would result with any alien contact based on earth's past. Think about what always happened when explorers from europe came across a tribe with limited technology...that tribe either was wiped out from disease or was assimilated and lost its culture.

The practical philosophers like myself disagreed with the two above parties. Our thought was the following...any society capable of surviving long enough to achieve intersteller travel surely is a peaceful one. A warlike civilization would have long ago destroyed itself.

Eventually we came to an agreement that contact would be initiated if we made contact with an alien race. The general consensus was aliens would be peaceful. I still feel that way.

Think about all the rumors you hear about alien abductions to learn our weakness or them working in secret for some nefarious purposes...all balony, any alien race capable of space travel will have the technology to wipe us out in the blink of an eye. They wouldnt need our goverment's permission or cooperation to abduct us. They wouldnt need to trade technology in exchange for favors, etc.

I wont pretend to be an expert on the New World Order but I have read a lot on the subject. It seems a false flag like a fake attack would be just the thing to get nations like the united states to toss out the constitution in favor of a world goverment.

Zeeon said: Zeeon:There is no buildup (military or otherwise) going on in Mexico - I live in San Diego and I keep tabs on the news everyday and I haven't seen anything to give this claim any merit.
As a matter of fact, people are going to and from Mexico everyday - hell the wait time at the border crossing is always 45 minutes to 2 hours !
I even work with a guy (who's also in the military) who lives down in Tijuana and laughed when I asked him about chinese people living down in Mexico and "chinese ammo" and being found in Mexico.

Freedom: As I said in the previous post, the ammo is being found all over San Diego County. The border patrols and police who are finding it are being told not to worry about it. If they press on about it they are being pressured, some are even afraid for their jobs and their lives.

Now, as for your comment about Tijuana and about how there couldn't possibly be military buildup going on in Mexico, here's a newspaper article I found just two days ago:

Tijuana police say troops have taken their guns (The Desert Sun)

TIJUANA, Mexico-- Local police in the Violent Mexican border city of Tijuana said Thursday they have been forced to suspend patrols as soldiers sent by President Felipe Calderon to crack down on drug gangs have taken hold of most of the officers' guns for an inspection.
Tijuana Public Safety Secretary Luis Javier Algorri said that without arms it is too dangerous for the force of 2,000 police to go on the streets of the city over the border from San Diego where 13 local officers were shot dead in 2006. "This is an unfortunate situation because it leaves agents defenseless and does not allow them to serve the community." Algorri said in a news conference.
3,300 soldiers and federal police are hunting down drug gangs etc. They are sweeping police stations and taking away the officers' guns for inspections. The federal investigators allege there is a corrupt network of police in the city supporting traffickers who smuggle tons of coc aine, meth, marijuana, over the busy border crossing in the United States."

Now, Zeeon, I have been reading the papers from Mexico for years now and you yourself should know that down there, Anything Goes.
I have articles that show that China has been fueling the major drug gangs of Latin America, Central America and of Mexico.
I have articles that show that all is chaos down in Mexico. Newspapermen are frequently assainated there. China has been pouring millions of dollars into Mexico for sometime now. Alot of it is going to the drug lords and some to the small towns and areas of vast deserts, deserts where there is plenty of room for troops doing manuevers.
Ensanadas, Mexico, less then 90 miles from the border China has their own Sea Port. Our own CIA knows what they are bringing in on those ships down there. It is not all Walmart goods, Zeeon.
Now, China, will do things the easiest way it can. They are working on Nanotechnology and big time. If this avenue works to take us down, then they will use it, but they are not sitting back and putting all their eggs in one basket. I love my Country but there is something wrong with some in our government. Melborne is not far off the track. Our government has Got to know about the Invasion plans and yet I don't see any precaution being taken to protect us their citizens.

I have alot more on this subject. I'm really busy this week and may not get in here alot. I Will be back,though.
FFG

p.s. As for those Mexican troops, you really can't trust any of them.
A while back I read a newspaper article that said that alot of the Mexican military had left the military and joined the drug gangs and vice versa. If anyone has been reading the papers for the last two years they will see there is scarce order in Mexico, and this Land is too close for comfort in my book

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Okay, I have pictures of UN vehicles that are already in the United States. Alot of them are old school buses that have been painted white and had the letters UN printed on the side in black.
I got these from someone who was investigating this stuff. There was a link and a web site I printed them off of but now that link doesn't work and I can't find my source. I have no way of posting these unless I get a scanner or something.
As for those military trucks, just because there is only 20 there doesn't mean jack. The key is, before an Invasion there are signs and to those who have open eyes, they will see these signs. There are a thousand little signs and alot of them are right in front of our eyes. If we are in denial them we will never see the truth.
I don't know how soon these things will happen and I pray that it is not soon. I just know. I've had dreams of soldiers in our streets and our country all torn up. I even know why this will be permited to happen.
We as a Nation, have turned away from the God who helped us in the beginning. I believe the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because there are still believers here.
I do see it happening though and it will be a brutal judgement.

Thomas Jefferson said, "Indeed I tremble for my Country., when I reflect that God is Just and that his Justice cannot sleep forever,"[edit on 9-1-2007 by FreedomFighterGrL]

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There are some major things reported from time to time as to the latest criminal/social even happening in Mexico, having said that, take a look at the following article. It is more then reasonable to believe that there are alot of breaking news stories that are not going to be reported. ffg

www.cpj.org...
CPJ NewsAlert

MEXICO: Another reporter in Veracruz found murdered


New York, December 1, 2006—The Committee to Protect Journalists said today it was investigating whether the shooting death of Adolfo Sánchez Guzmán was related to his work as reporter for the Mexican news Web site Orizaba en Vivo.

The journalist’s body was found yesterday on the banks of the Blanco river near Mendoza, 74 miles (120 kilometers) from Xalapa, capital of the southeastern state of Veracruz. He had been shot twice in the back of the head, and had bruises and stab wounds to the chest, a police source in Mendoza told CPJ. Nearby lay the body of another man, César Martínez López, who had also been shot in the head, the source said.

On November 21, Roberto Marcos García, another local reporter, was found shot to death near the city of Veracruz. Five other journalists have been killed in Mexico this year. CPJ has confirmed that one of the five journalists was slain in connection with his reporting. It continues to investigate the killings of the others.
Local prosecutor Emerito López Márquez was quoted by the Mexico City newspaper La Jornada as saying that Sánchez was investigating the activities of a local gang of thieves. Sánchez normally covered regional politics. Police have opened an investigation into the murder.

© 2006 Committee to Protect Journalists. www.cpj.org... E-mail: [email protected]

“We are gravely concerned by the growing number of killings of Mexican journalists this year.

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